Harvin, Nicks, Britt Out Of Round One?

[KDPPatsfan85]

In the same radio spot during which SI.com’s Tony Pauline explains that he stands behind what his sources have told him regarding Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji’s positive marijuana test result from the February Scouting Combine, Pauline claims that three receivers whom many regard as being round-one prospects might not be drafted until the second round, at the earliest.

Pauline pegs Florida’s Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt of Rutgers, and North Carolina’s Hakeem Nicks as receivers who might not be receiving a first-round rookie contract.

Pauline describes Harvin as being on the fringes of round one, and Pauline says that Nicks will have a hard time getting in to the first 32 picks. Pauline thinks that Britt will be shut out of the first round.

Last year, no receivers were taken in round one of the draft.

As to Harvin, Pauline points to “personality issues” that will prevent Harvin from meshing with a lot of coaches, as well as durability concerns, describing Harvin as the receiver version of Reggie Bush.

Pauline didn’t mention that Harvin reportedly tested positive for marijuana at the Combine. The fact that neither Harvin nor his agent have responded to the NFLDraftBible.com report has prompted many league insiders to conclude that the report was/is accurate.

We’ll find out whether Harvin, Britt, and/or Nicks are first-round draft picks in two weeks.


ProFootballTalk.com - Harvin, Nicks, Britt Out Of Round One?

 

[mgteich]

I'm sort of confused. I don't think I've ever had Britt or Nicks in the 1st round. As for Harvin, the question is the character issues; he's a first rounder except for those.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I'm sort of confused. I don't think I've ever had Britt or Nicks in the 1st round. As for Harvin, the question is the character issues; he's a first rounder except for those.

Nicks got some mention as a mid to late #1 before he gained weight before his pro day; he and Harvin interest me depending on how their personal issues check out with the team.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Am I one of the few who thinks Harvin would be a phenomenal fit for the Patriots if he's still there in the second? I know we're probably all a bit gunshy of another Florida receiver, but Harvin is a special player. I could see him playing so many roles on this team it's almost absurd. Many players are touted as home-run threats, but Harvin truly is. Imagine that much speed in the slot, with Moss and Galloway drawing coverage downfield. It's almost not even fair.

Britt . . . eh. Struggles to separate from top corners. Nicks may be the second coming of Boldin, but I just don't see the same explosiveness or power; he's nowhere near as good in YAC.

 

[DaBruinz]

Am I one of the few who thinks Harvin would be a phenomenal fit for the Patriots if he's still there in the second? I know we're probably all a bit gunshy of another Florida receiver, but Harvin is a special player. I could see him playing so many roles on this team it's almost absurd. Many players are touted as home-run threats, but Harvin truly is. Imagine that much speed in the slot, with Moss and Galloway drawing coverage downfield. It's almost not even fair.

Britt . . . eh. Struggles to separate from top corners. Nicks may be the second coming of Boldin, but I just don't see the same explosiveness or power; he's nowhere near as good in YAC.

Actually, I think you are one of a select few who thinks Harvin would be a good fit here. I certainly don't. And Harvin wouldn't be in the slot. He's be lining up outside opposite Moss. The slot is Welker's for the foreseeable future.

 

[DW Toys]

Am I one of the few who thinks Harvin would be a phenomenal fit for the Patriots if he's still there in the second? I know we're probably all a bit gunshy of another Florida receiver, but Harvin is a special player. I could see him playing so many roles on this team it's almost absurd. Many players are touted as home-run threats, but Harvin truly is. Imagine that much speed in the slot, with Moss and Galloway drawing coverage downfield. It's almost not even fair.

Britt . . . eh. Struggles to separate from top corners. Nicks may be the second coming of Boldin, but I just don't see the same explosiveness or power; he's nowhere near as good in YAC.

I agree on Harvin. Slot, returner, RB upon occasion for certain scripted plays.
DW Toys

 

[DocE]

Am I one of the few who thinks Harvin would be a phenomenal fit for the Patriots if he's still there in the second? I know we're probably all a bit gunshy of another Florida receiver, but Harvin is a special player. I could see him playing so many roles on this team it's almost absurd. Many players are touted as home-run threats, but Harvin truly is. Imagine that much speed in the slot, with Moss and Galloway drawing coverage downfield. It's almost not even fair.

Britt . . . eh. Struggles to separate from top corners. Nicks may be the second coming of Boldin, but I just don't see the same explosiveness or power; he's nowhere near as good in YAC.

I have Harvin as first round possibility for the Patriots depending on who is left at no.23.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I'd like Harvin on the Pats. Great open field player with a small punch. But imo there just isn't a fit for him here. Slot receiver is Welkers, he is one of the best in the biz at what he does. I just can't see them using a 1st or even 2nd rounder on a guy who would be the future Kevin Faulk on our team. I'd be much more inclined to use a 5th or 6th and fill those shoes with a guy like Devin Moore. It's low risk high reward at that point.

 

[CoachK]

Actually, I think you are one of a select few who thinks Harvin would be a good fit here. I certainly don't. And Harvin wouldn't be in the slot. He's be lining up outside opposite Moss. The slot is Welker's for the foreseeable future.

I'm with DABruinz on this one. I live in Florida and saw almost every Gators gaame. I don't see Harvin as a "fit" here.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I'd like Harvin on the Pats. Great open field player with a small punch. But imo there just isn't a fit for him here. Slot receiver is Welkers, he is the best in the biz at what he does. I just can't see them using a 1st or even 2nd rounder on a guy who would be the future Kevin Faulk on our team. I'd be much more inclined to use a 5th or 6th and fill those shoes with a guy like Devin Moore. It's low risk high reward at that point.

Fixed your post for you; after all, Welker's only got 250 receptions (including playoffs) since he arrived. . . .

 

[VJCPatriot]

I have Harvin as first round possibility for the Patriots depending on who is left at no.23.

Sorry but that's a throw the TV pick. :nono:

 

[TriplecHamp]

Am I one of the few who thinks Harvin would be a phenomenal fit for the Patriots if he's still there in the second? I know we're probably all a bit gunshy of another Florida receiver, but Harvin is a special player. I could see him playing so many roles on this team it's almost absurd. Many players are touted as home-run threats, but Harvin truly is. Imagine that much speed in the slot, with Moss and Galloway drawing coverage downfield. It's almost not even fair.

Britt . . . eh. Struggles to separate from top corners. Nicks may be the second coming of Boldin, but I just don't see the same explosiveness or power; he's nowhere near as good in YAC.

Your not alone. Harvin could play RB, WR, KR/PR...One of the best HR threats in this draft. With the addition of Taylor we now have a legit burner at RB but a player like Harvin with his versatility could do numbers on opposing Defenses. I would take him with either of the last two second rounders.

 

[Ungeheuer]

Actually, I think you are one of a select few who thinks Harvin would be a good fit here. I certainly don't. And Harvin wouldn't be in the slot. He's be lining up outside opposite Moss. The slot is Welker's for the foreseeable future.

I disagree. If he can stay sane off the field, Harvin would be a monster on the Pats. He could catch passes out of the backfield, he could carry the ball, he could return kicks, and he could line up outside and inside as a wideout. The reason he would be so deadly on the Pats is that his RAC ability would force teams to cheat an extra d-back or linebacker to his side -- but you can't do that on the Pats because you already need to do that for Moss. He'd catch those bubble screens the Pats run and the ten-yard gains they got with Gaffney or the fifteen-yarders they got with Faulk would be twenty- or thirty-yarders.

Add that to the effect he'd have on special teams... He'd be a massive on-field upgrade on two units. And he might only need fifteen touches a game to do it. If he can stay on the field.

But, if he really tested positive, that's a problem because then he's a one-strike guy already. You wouldn't use a #1 for him, but maybe at #34... the Pats are one of the few teams with enough high picks to take a risk like that.

 

[BritPat]

There are at least four teams drafting after us in the first round that could desperately do with a receiver.

Fins have Ginn as their #1.

Ravens need the replacement for Mason long term, and help for him short term.

Colts have Wayne and Gonzalez. That's it.

Giants don't have a possession guy any more, and their best receiver will be 35 by the start of week 2.

You could even chuck in the Eagles if you want and make it five teams. At least one will take a flyer on a receiver, at least one, especially with the best two likely off the board by pick #18.

 

[condon84]

Why wouldn't Harvin be a fit with the Pats? The bubble screens we run, the short/intermediate passes to give our recievers YAC, coupled that with Harvin's overall versatility. Everything about his "game" screams Patriots. Whether he fits the Patriot mold off the field, I don't know, but his game definitely is a great fit for us.

 

[DaBruinz]

Sorry but that's a throw the TV pick. :nono:

Oh hell.. The world must be coming to an end.. VJC and I agree on something... :singing::singing::singing:

 

[DaBruinz]

Your not alone. Harvin could play RB, WR, KR/PR...One of the best HR threats in this draft. With the addition of Taylor we now have a legit burner at RB but a player like Harvin with his versatility could do numbers on opposing Defenses. I would take him with either of the last two second rounders.

People keep saying that Harvin could be a RB in the NFL.. That he could also do KR/PR besides being WR. I have to disagree.

1) Harvin is injury prone as it is. The more you use him, the more likely he is to get hurt. Particularly at RB.

2) He's not returned a single kick or punt in at least the last 4 years..

3) I've read nothing that would support that Harvin can actually block when lining up in the backfield. So, having him in the backfield with the QB would be useless until he could actually learn to block.

 

[Real World]

Imagine going 4 wide, with Moss, Galloway, Welker, and Harvin?

I like Harvin's ability as a game changer on offense, but I'd prefer to see the Patriots focus on the defensive side of the ball, or O-line. BPA though. If he's #1 on the board, then the Pats will likely draft him.

 

[AzPatsFan]

They were never in...

 

[Revman]

If Harvin were to last until round 2-#34 would we grab him?