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gotta like jeff fisher

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The real question is really "Is the mustache necessary in 2013?'
 
It's a QB-driven league. Fisher would win a lot of games with even a decent QB.

Fisher had Steve McNair and, even with him, was very inconsistent, with multiple seasons of .500 or below.
 
Fisher had Steve McNair and was very inconsistent, even with him.

To be fair, McNair was very inconsistent at his best. (At his worst he was late delivering and/or inaccurate and oft-injured.) So I'm not sure this invalidates the prior poster despite that it does on the surface.

Still don't like Fisher.

Still not sure if I'm continuing to watch football.

Ugh.
 
To be fair, McNair was very inconsistent at his best. (At his worst he was late delivering and/or inaccurate and oft-injured.) So I'm not sure this invalidates the prior poster despite that it does on the surface.

Still don't like Fisher.

Still not sure if I'm continuing to watch football.

Ugh.

I'm not saying Fisher is a lousy coach. I was just pointing out that he was inconsistent even with a good QB. It's not as if every bad season for the team was mirrored by a down year for McNair. In the 7-9 season, for example, McNair had a QB rating over 90. Having the 25th ranked defense was a much bigger issue.
 
yeah....something tells me that BB doesn't hold onto stuff that long

Remember the 2007 beatdown of Joe Gibbs 'skins in 2007, with a little extra sauce thrown in? That was related to Giants-Redskins bad blood from the 90s, when Bill was an assistant with the Giants.
 
I'm not saying Fisher is a lousy coach. I was just pointing out that he was inconsistent even with a good QB. It's not as if every bad season for the team was mirrored by a down year for McNair. In the 7-9 season, for example, McNair had a QB rating over 90. Having the 25th ranked defense was a much bigger issue.

This is true. I don't see McNair as a great QB, but certainly good enough at times to win more if there weren't other problems with the team.
 
I actually like Jeff Fisher, seems like a hard nosed guy and a decent coach. He is turning around St. Louis, they are getting tougher and more physical. He is a much better coach than Pete "Pom Pom" Carroll, that guy sucks!
 
Fisher gets a lot of hate because he was on the comp committee and voted for rule changes after each Patriots Super Bowl win...or two of them anyway. Objectively, he's a good coach and good guy. I don't particularly like HIS team building philosophy outside of his preferences for D linemen.

Pete the Cleaner is another story. I sat through his Reign Of Error here , seated up pretty close. I had a press pass back then and I got to watch him dismantle a well disciplined squad left from the Parcells tenure and turn it into the "Just Gotta Clean Some Things Up" patty cake party. I despise him. He NEVER should have been hired here.
 
Remember the 2007 beatdown of Joe Gibbs 'skins in 2007, with a little extra sauce thrown in? That was related to Giants-Redskins bad blood from the 90s, when Bill was an assistant with the Giants.

Or maybe that's the way most of the season went
 
Hey! give Fisher some credit. This is the Patriots and there is a lot of animosity toward this team and especially this coach because of the success, because BB gets so many nods as 'best coach'. And as usually is the case, some/many of the dip$hi+$ on TV won't speak the truth. Instead they will speak to propagate their self serving axe grinding. Anyone stating this was not clearly PI is either ignorant of the rules, is that overly emotional type who can't speak from the standpoint of logic, or Rivera-Panthers-Panther fans (who are completely exempted from being drerided for their opinion....it is understandable for them to see their own side.....just as most here would have seen it).

Examples of @$$-wiped-ness, I heard a guy on ESPN today actually say the words *two borderline last second calls going against the Patriots. Ironic for a team that was guilty of Spygate*. Another who actually said the words *the ball was going to be intercepted, that makes it not PI*. Another who said *it was borderline that could go either way, you don't call those*. Even better, NFL official claiming the contact and Int happened simultaneous (that was, imho, not emotion/dip$#!tism but an outright contrived lie). Fisher, instead of playing one of these many cement heads with their axe grinding spoke the truth. I give him credit for that when it is so easy and probably popular thing to do to tap into the animosity bandwagon.

For me, if the ref had not thrown a flag, I would have thought nothing of it. I would have written it off as "Refs don't like to call PI or other judgment call penalties on the last play of the game". You see it a lot, Patriots and others have benefited from the refs 'letting 'them play' on the last, game deciding play. Yet the fact that they picked it up? It was irritating as that PI actually had elements of everything that makes PI, but I still see an argument that calls like this don't get called on that last play of the game type situations. What pisses me off is that this very common belief of 'no call on the last play of the game' was NOT applied a few weeks ago. Where the F! were these S#!+bird refs in that game getting together to pick the flag up because of the 'don't effect the outcome of the game on the last play' (and on one of the silliest calls to boot). That is what irks me.
 
Jeff Fisher is a putz.
 
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