Godchaux Speaks Out on his contract

[Ian]

Looks like Godchaux finally decided to make it known that he's indeed unhappy with his deal:



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[UGAPatsfan]

Trade him. He didn’t even earn the first deal IMO.

 

[Brick27]

Sounds like he didn’t get what he wanted from internal discussions and his fallback is whining on a public forum to get support.

Probably time to move on. He’s being paid plenty for being a secondary guy next to Barmore this year and clearly sees himself as more valuable than what the team does.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The weirdest thing Bill said after Dogchow signed was that "he's one of the best DT's in the league", yet his contract clearly didn't reflect that. Fast forward, he does have some ammo to use though. They were 4th in the NFL in average yards allowed per game at 93 and the lowest yards per carry at 3.3.

This is what happens when other players on the team are getting signed prematurely. Barmore is an example. He has one standout year and now he makes $21M per year. Derrick Brown in Carolina is an even worse deal. Dogchow can make the case that he takes heat off Barmore and that he doesn't play full time. If Chow were to leave, this would put a ton of pressure on Barmore.

 

[mgteich]

Trade him. He didn’t even earn the first deal IMO.

the attitude that got us to 4-13

 

[mgteich]

Sounds like he didn’t get what he wanted from internal discussions and his fallback is whining on a public forum to get support.

Probably time to move on. He’s being paid plenty for being a secondary guy next to Barmore this year and clearly sees himself as more valuable than what the team does.

yes, Bill
\Speak out and be cur or traded
It's a long patriot tradition
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We have Godchaux for the season. We can re-sign him or pay market plus for someone else.

 

[Ollie]

What's his current contract?

 

[rkarp1]

What's his current contract?

the team owes him $7-$8m this year pending his per game incentive plays out. his cap hit with his pro rated bonus is $11.8m. it's a pretty fair deal for a DT that does not produce any stats, but handles the middle pretty effectively.
if he was 26 yrs old, I could definitely see extending him with his prime age seasons coming, similar to Barmore, who does what Godcheux does, plus gets to the QB. but at 30 yrs old, it gets trickier.
will the team get a better season out of him on a do nothing, go out and bet on yourself on the field, and watch an angry Godcheux play it out for a contract? or does he play better with a contract that pays him for 2-3 more seasons?
I would be willing to let it play out and have him go out and prove it.
if he goes out and plays like a pro bowler, I would think he has 1 more contract coming in at 31 yrs old. let the free market speak.

I bet he "holds in" and does not bet on himself.

 

[Ollie]

the team owes him $7-$8m this year pending his per game incentive plays out. his cap hit with his pro rated bonus is $11.8m. it's a pretty fair deal for a DT that does not produce any stats, but handles the middle pretty effectively.
if he was 26 yrs old, I could definitely see extending him with his prime age seasons coming, similar to Barmore, who does what Godcheux does, plus gets to the QB. but at 30 yrs old, it gets trickier.
will the team get a better season out of him on a do nothing, go out and bet on yourself on the field, and watch an angry Godcheux play it out for a contract? or does he play better with a contract that pays him for 2-3 more seasons?
I would be willing to let it play out and have him go out and prove it.
if he goes out and plays like a pro bowler, I would think he has 1 more contract coming in at 31 yrs old. let the free market speak.

I bet he "holds in" and does not bet on himself.

Agreed, I'm not sure he is worth a huge amount more. Would he get more on the open market?

 

[signbabybrady]

The weirdest thing Bill said after Dogchow signed was that "he's one of the best DT's in the league", yet his contract clearly didn't reflect that. Fast forward, he does have some ammo to use though. They were 4th in the NFL in average yards allowed per game at 93 and the lowest yards per carry at 3.3.

This is what happens when other players on the team are getting signed prematurely. Barmore is an example. He has one standout year and now he makes $21M per year. Derrick Brown in Carolina is an even worse deal. Dogchow can make the case that he takes heat off Barmore and that he doesn't play full time. If Chow were to leave, this would put a ton of pressure on Barmore.

I don't think Bill meant top 5 when he said it. I think he just meant it in general. He was one of the best DTs over the past few seasons.

And I definitely agree with your opinion on everyone else getting paid creating jealousy. Hopefully it doesn't backfire but they had to spend the cash and doing it in house should be more positive than not.

 

[rkarp1]

I suppose the Pats could take God's base salary this season (assume) $8m and give it to him now as a sign bonus and spread it over 2 seasons. that would have the Pats with a cap hit of $4m this season and $4m next season.
they could then give him a 2/$15m with $5m guaranteed this season, and $10m not guaranteed next season.
2024-cash paid to player=$13m
2024 cap hit=$9m
2025-cash paid to player $10m not guaranteed
2025- cap hit $14m if God is on the team, $4m if he is not on the team (dead cap)

God gets more money now and potentially another season (and more money) with his usual play.

reasonable for both?

 

[Stu Pidassle]

The weirdest thing Bill said after Dogchow signed was that "he's one of the best DT's in the league", yet his contract clearly didn't reflect that. Fast forward, he does have some ammo to use though. They were 4th in the NFL in average yards allowed per game at 93 and the lowest yards per carry at 3.3.

This is what happens when other players on the team are getting signed prematurely. Barmore is an example. He has one standout year and now he makes $21M per year. Derrick Brown in Carolina is an even worse deal. Dogchow can make the case that he takes heat off Barmore and that he doesn't play full time. If Chow were to leave, this would put a ton of pressure on Barmore.

Keeping the contract side of the business out of the locker room is a tricky thing. The expectation and frustration that comes with holding the line with some players while eagerly retaining others is where the rubber hits the road for the new way of doing business. You can't have half the team angry about their contracts and the other have fat dumb and happy because they have their easy money. In addition to Mayo and Wolf handling the situation with minimum blow back, this team needs some leaders in the locker room. Until Maye (hopefully) establishes himself, there doesn't seem to be anyone else ready to take on the role.

 

[Huckleberry1]

His issue is the Barmore contract, but the situations aren’t comparable. I’m sure they have a ceiling for him, and they should just go to it and make it clear that’s their best offer. If he wants to play it out and leave no big deal. If he wants to sit out, no big deal. If he comes in and doesn’t play hard he will end up watching, and that will hurt him far more than the difference between what he wants and what he’s getting. I just wouldn’t waste much time on it, make the best offer and be done with it. No one is going to give a high pick for him so trading him makes no sense, he’s a better player than his numbers, and the best deal they could get would be mid season from a contender with a huge hole in the middle. Make a deal then if they need to.

 

[Triumph]

Team Kraft will likely buckle and give him more money and then hold a press conference before going out on the town for lobster and champagne.

 

[rkarp1]

the issue is age, which should be no surprise to any nfl player
Godchaux also got a new deal in 2022 that no one twisted his arm to sign

 

[rkarp1]

Team Kraft will likely buckle and give him more money and then hold a press conference before going out on the town for lobster and champagne.

what does "buckle" mean?
if it means a friendly deal that treats the team fairly and the player is happy, then isn't that good football business?
if it means over paying and being sorry, then I agree

 

[Triumph]

Keeping the contract side of the business out of the locker room is a tricky thing. The expectation and frustration that comes with holding the line with some players while eagerly retaining others is where the rubber hits the road for the new way of doing business. You can't have half the team angry about their contracts and the other have fat dumb and happy because they have their easy money. In addition to Mayo and Wolf handling the situation with minimum blow back, this team needs some leaders in the locker room. Until Maye (hopefully) establishes himself, there doesn't seem to be anyone else ready to take on the role.

Belichick was able to keep the team from griping about money. Relatively few players dared to go public for fear of being traded.

I would not give Godfaux another nickel at this point. Go out and prove that you are worth another contract and maybe we will reup your deal during the 24 season.

 

[Triumph]

what does "buckle" mean?
if it means a friendly deal that treats the team fairly and the player is happy, then isn't that good football business?
if it means over paying and being sorry, then I agree

Buckle means cave and give God more money and do it now as he stated.

Before camp because you know God might forget when to report.

 

[rkarp1]

Buckle means cave and give God more money and do it now as he stated.

Before camp because you know God might forget when to report.

I laid out a scenario above of giving God more money now, and not impacting the cap space now, and he gets paid next year only if he produces this year.
thoughts?

 

[Triumph]

I laid out a scenario above of giving God more money now, and not impacting the cap space now, and he gets paid next year only if he produces this year.
thoughts?

Kraft will probably pay up now as not to upset the players.