Given How the Final Quarter Went, Belichick Made the Right Call

[luuked]

The drive was not pretty but they scored. If the pats received and Brady and the offense failed so be it. At least give him a chance. You defer there is a chance that Brady never gets the ball which is exactly what happened.

Who cares if Brady got the ball or not? He was not able to move the ball using three downs the entire game. There is no reason to believe he would be able to do that in overtime. The higher percentage play was to let the defense deliver a shorter field. It was a good decision that simply didn't pay off.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

The Patriots had one Touchdown drive the entire game and the defense shut the Jets down in the 4th quarter, that's a recipe for kicking the ball to them not vice versa.

That one TD drive in the entire game happens to be the last drive (not counting the 25 sec runoff), you want to keep the momentum going - you want the ball first in OT and get the game over with. The defense shutting the jets down in the 4th means squat, as anything can happen in the next series - blown coverage, penalties,etc..

 

[ensoul]

Who cares if Brady got the ball or not? He was not able to move the ball using three downs the entire game. There is no reason to believe he would be able to do that in overtime. The higher percentage play was to let the defense deliver a shorter field. It was a good decision that simply didn't pay off.

There is a reason to believe because they did score, even if it took four downs. It would not have been that unheard if they scored again. Even a freaking FG to start would have been better than nothing.

I do understand the whole field position BB was going for but the pats were probably not getting a pick 6 or even an interception.

If the pats wanted to win the game Brady and the offense was going to have to move the ball at some point. Why not at least give him a chance?

 

[Patsrock]

That one TD drive in the entire game happens to be the last drive (not counting the 25 sec runoff), you want to keep the momentum going - you want the ball first in OT and get the game over with. The defense shutting the jets down in the 4th means squat, as anything can happen in the next series - blown coverage, penalties,etc..

And you say the same thing that the offense scoring means squat because anything can happen like a pick six, a fumbled snap, fumbled kick return?

 

[DarrylS]

I agree with the premise of this thread, BB had every reason to trust his defense as they had held the Jets pretty much at bay in the 4th quarter.. give Brady a short field to work with as they go for a field goal.

3 three and outs, and one 7 yard drive that amassed 26 yards for the Jets in the 4th quarter.. every reason to trust the d...

 

[luuked]

I do understand the whole field position BB was going for but the pats were probably not getting a pick 6 or even an interception.

If the pats wanted to win the game Brady and the offense was going to have to move the ball at some point. Why not at least give him a chance?

We didn't need a turnover. The D held the Jets to less than 40 yards in the entire fourth quarter. If the D keeps up the trend then Brady & co. would need to around 30-40 yards for a game winning FG. There was a higher probability that the D would keep on playing like they did than the offense suddenly being able to move for 80 yards.

 

[luuked]

That one TD drive in the entire game happens to be the last drive (not counting the 25 sec runoff), you want to keep the momentum going - you want the ball first in OT and get the game over with. The defense shutting the jets down in the 4th means squat, as anything can happen in the next series - blown coverage, penalties,etc..

By saying momentum you are making a case exactly against what you are saying. There was no momentum for our offensive unit, they barely scraped out a TD. The Patriots defense was the unit that had all the momentum late in the game. They scored a TD, stopped the Jets four times in a row without giving up many yards. It is so obvious that it amazes me that there is even a discussion about the entire call.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

And you say the same thing that the offense scoring means squat because anything can happen like a pick six, a fumbled snap, fumbled kick return?

sure it can but you want the rock first and get it over with and not prolong the game when youre the visitor, not to mention risking more injuries.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Have to look at the situation of each game, during this game BB put the ball in the hands of his best unit that day aka the Defense. Brady may be the best player but his unit was not the best on that day. When the defense scores as many touchdowns as the offense and the offense fails to score a TD 10/11 drives, I have no clue why anyone believes they get a fg or a td on the first drive in overtime.

 

[Patsrock]

sure it can but you want the rock first and get it over with and not prolong the game when youre the visitor, not to mention risking more injuries.

What happened in the Denver game on the road with "momentum" the offense had after the drive to send it to OT?

They went 3 and out and gave Denver great field position to win the game.

 

[OhExaulted1]

I could probably stomach the loss better if he really gambled and went for 2 and the win and lost that way.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

It was waddle's injury that screwed everything up. At that point stork was playing LT. I think this was the primary basis for bill's decision to kick.

 

[ensoul]

We didn't need a turnover. The D held the Jets to less than 40 yards in the entire fourth quarter. If the D keeps up the trend then Brady & co. would need to around 30-40 yards for a game winning FG. There was a higher probability that the D would keep on playing like they did than the offense suddenly being able to move for 80 yards.

Well the jets suddenly were able to move the ball 80 yards and win so who is to say the patriots couldn't have done the same thing? All it takes is blown coverage, two safeties running into each other or some missed tackles.

I don't care what anybody says, kicking the ball off and taking a chance that your offense doesn't get the ball, especially when you have Gronk and Brady doesn't give your team the best chance to win in OT.

I love BB and there isn't another coach I'd rather have but he has made a few questionable decesion this year.

 

[Huckleberry1]

If he had faith in a brady and the offense he would have received the kick.

You're right, he was going to put Garrapolo in but needed time to get him warmed up, no way he trusted Brady, he sucks.

 

[SVN]

Borges of all people agrees with the call
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/..._belichicks_ot_call_failed_but_it_wasnt_wrong

 

[Huckleberry1]

By saying momentum you are making a case exactly against what you are saying. There was no momentum for our offensive unit, they barely scraped out a TD. The Patriots defense was the unit that had all the momentum late in the game. They scored a TD, stopped the Jets four times in a row without giving up many yards. It is so obvious that it amazes me that there is even a discussion about the entire call.

They only question him if it doesn't work, otherwise they were with him all the way..
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[363839]

The correct answer is...They should have gone for 2 on late TD. No OT needed. No second guessing required. Just we either get it and take lead or lose it and take our battered troops home.

 

[Patsrock]

The correct answer is...They should have gone for 2 on late TD. No OT needed. No second guessing required. Just we either get it and take lead or lose it and take our battered troops home.

If they went for 2 and missed the second guessing would have been a million times worse than this kickoff second quessing.

 

[Angelpats]

Isn't it obvious ? If our offense performs the same as during regulation there is a very good chance that we will not go far, have to punt and give Denver good field position where they only need a FG to win ?

Statistics are totally irrelevant here.

Show me the overtime stats that contain a team with a offense that can't move the ball and a defense that didn't allow 40 yards in the last 4 drives of an opponent. The stats you quote that essentially give you percentages for the average matchup are completely irrelevant and you should use common sense instead.

Since you say stats are irrelevant then let's forget about it and look at reality.

The defense couldn't stop the jets and our offense didn't even get a chance to get on the field, plus we didn't even get a chance to decide which end to defend, which wasn't even important because the weather was good and the kickers were doing well. At least if we receive we get one possession. And since our defense was playing well they get a few minutes to rest and make any adjustments. If this was a playoff game we would have to wait 6 months to play football again. At least give the offense and ourselves a chance, even if they sucked, let them try, that's the only obvious thing about this.

 

[sambam94]

team getting the ball 1st only scores a td 16% of the time. Hold to fg and brady has 4 downs to get a first down until in fg range. This is a huge advantage that is often overlooked when discussing the new ot rules. This continues until you get a hold on defense. The other team is certainly not going to go for it on 4th down, especially on their own side of the 50 yard line.