Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers go to hell. Well, ----

[Greatest I am]

Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers go to hell. Well, ----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg

You tell those who do not believe as you do, that because of their non-beliefs, that they are damned to a fate inferior to yours. Hell in fact.

That belief has made believers, non-believers and those of other religions war against each other for all of this time.

Dr. Seuss' The Sneetches - Full Version - YouTube

I think we should bury the hatchet, soonest.

If the religious system believers like you preached is superior, all you would need do to win world support is have your side walk its talk. You and your friends are not making that effort and we can all see that you are not superior in any way. If you did and showed your worth, our collectively seeing the benefits would give your religion, all the Abrahamic cults that is, the oneness it craves.

Showing your effectiveness is all you need do to silence the non-believers and massively win them over. You have not done so and Secularism is now firmly entrenched in the world.

The Abrahamic cults know that to follow Jesus is impossible so they work to enrich themselves and do not even attempt to end poverty. Jesus’ mission. Everyone sees this and I have to wonder if the old perverts infesting church hierarchies are worth our resources.

Secularism on the other hand has taken 1 billion souls out of poverty in the last twenty years and forecasts another billion souls being raised in the next twenty years, ---- in spite of the wasted resources of rich religions and various warring political and religious factions.

Myths and fairy tales like the one above are only good if we take the good and recognize why it is good. Judge not is given to indicate that to judge is to put yourself above God.

When you and other believers, me included, say that we are saved and others are not, --- we are putting our judgement into God’s mouth. Shame on us.

To those who speak for God, a God demonstrably based on a myth, I say, regardless of what you call yourself, we are all named in this quote.

See it? See your label?

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

I think the various religions should bury the hatchet. Don't you?

Regards
DL

 

[Mrs.PatsFanInVa]

I think the various religions should bury the hatchet. Don't you?

Works for me.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Yeah Okay, long diatribe. So your world view is that all the worlds different beliefs are evil and since the beginning of time people have been killing one another because they wouldn't follow their "god". And if we all just switched to no belief than we would get struck by the morality stick and love each other.

Now I'm sure at some point somebody stuffed this overly simplistic nonsense into your head that "X" (name your evil thing) was the root of all evil and we could solve it by ridding the world of "X". Even if ridding the world of "X" was completely impossible and wasting time talking about wouldn't amount to adding anything to the world but noise.

But here's the strange thing, all the worlds wars- they weren't actually caused by religion. They were caused for a variety of reasons, sometimes religion but typically not. Just think back to every war the U.S has ever been in and not a single one was religiously motivated. So I'm not sure how secularism will change the world. Certainly they haven't competed with any of those evil religions in conducting charity, and the human rights record, and war record isn't really so hot either.

Now I could conclude that secularists are evil and it would be a better world without them. But the irony is that it's this type of thinking, the type you are doing- that is the actual cause of most of the worlds wars. Thinking that we must rid ourselves of group "X" for our survival or betterment of everyone.

 

[Mrs.PatsFanInVa]

Just think back to every war the U.S has ever been in and not a single one was religiously motivated.

Well, unless you count the Revolutionary War, of course.

And I guess you're not counting the small "Inner Wars," and conflicts which plagued the 1800s in the United States.

Things like the Catholics and Protestants trying to kill one another in the East and everyone trying to kill the Mormons in the West.

And what would you call our current "War on Terror," if not religiously based?

Our own President Bush referred to it as a "crusade."

You don't get much more religious than that.

Europe cringes at Bush 'crusade' against terrorists - CSMonitor.com

 

[inmemoryofjrseau]

Attention: To the Greatest I AM,

I read UR rather long statement & i'm not exactly sure what Ur main point is. Yet, my conclusion walking with the Lord God ************ for almost 30 years is.

Let the word of the Lord speak! His words will last forever, they we'll judge us, as well as other's!

He's the only one qualified to do so, it's definitely is in the right pierced hands.
So, we can't even judge one person righteously. God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit are more than qualified!

So, my bottom line is our personal views don't even matter, God's words & thoughts are the only one's that count! Love, inmemoryofjrseau

P.S. may GOD's mercy & love be extended to our poor soul's b/c it's only b/c of him that we may stand in his judgement day! Good Luck we'll need it!

 

[Greatest I am]

Yeah Okay, long diatribe. So your world view is that all the worlds different beliefs are evil and since the beginning of time people have been killing one another because they wouldn't follow their "god". And if we all just switched to no belief than we would get struck by the morality stick and love each other.

Now I'm sure at some point somebody stuffed this overly simplistic nonsense into your head that "X" (name your evil thing) was the root of all evil and we could solve it by ridding the world of "X". Even if ridding the world of "X" was completely impossible and wasting time talking about wouldn't amount to adding anything to the world but noise.

But here's the strange thing, all the worlds wars- they weren't actually caused by religion. They were caused for a variety of reasons, sometimes religion but typically not. Just think back to every war the U.S has ever been in and not a single one was religiously motivated. So I'm not sure how secularism will change the world. Certainly they haven't competed with any of those evil religions in conducting charity, and the human rights record, and war record isn't really so hot either.

Now I could conclude that secularists are evil and it would be a better world without them. But the irony is that it's this type of thinking, the type you are doing- that is the actual cause of most of the worlds wars. Thinking that we must rid ourselves of group "X" for our survival or betterment of everyone.

Indeed. Discrimination is good if well applied.

Every law forces us to discriminate.

It is good to war against idiocies like religions and your reply.

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Attention: To the Greatest I AM,

I read UR rather long statement & i'm not exactly sure what Ur main point is. Yet, my conclusion walking with the Lord God ************ for almost 30 years is.

Let the word of the Lord speak! His words will last forever, they we'll judge us, as well as other's!

He's the only one qualified to do so, it's definitely is in the right pierced hands.
So, we can't even judge one person righteously. God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit are more than qualified!

So, my bottom line is our personal views don't even matter, God's words & thoughts are the only one's that count! Love, inmemoryofjrseau

P.S. may GOD's mercy & love be extended to our poor soul's b/c it's only b/c of him that we may stand in his judgement day! Good Luck we'll need it!

The point is that we should all kill off all the Gods as they make people deteriorate into minds lie yours.

Your divisiveness is anti-love.

Regards
DL

 

[inmemoryofjrseau]

The point is that we should all kill off all the Gods as they make people deteriorate into minds lie yours.

Your divisiveness is anti-love.

Regards
DL

It's sad but, I can understand a lot about UR belief by just the name U've chosen for URSelf.

Greatest I am, right away puts U in a category that has rejected The Lord God Almighty and UR worshiping URself!

It's called the new age movement, self realization fellowship (some call it swami's.)

U have made some strong statements to begin with by saying quote "Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers are not!)

First of all, I say worship the Lord Thy God and Worship him only!
Worship the creator not the created!

Just a few chapter's & verses for thought
GOD still Loves U! U can hate him all U want but, he still Loves U!


Philippians chapter 2 verses 5-11. Colossians chapter 1 verses 15-20.
Colossians Chapter 2 verses 6-23.

 

[Greatest I am]

It's sad but, I can understand a lot about UR belief by just the name U've chosen for URSelf.

Greatest I am, right away puts U in a category that has rejected The Lord God Almighty and UR worshiping URself!

It's called the new age movement, self realization fellowship (some call it swami's.)

U have made some strong statements to begin with by saying quote "Fellow believers. You say you are saved and non-believers are not!)

First of all, I say worship the Lord Thy God and Worship him only!
Worship the creator not the created!

Just a few chapter's & verses for thought
GOD still Loves U! U can hate him all U want but, he still Loves U!


Philippians chapter 2 verses 5-11. Colossians chapter 1 verses 15-20.
Colossians Chapter 2 verses 6-23.

The usual blind and pathetic believer who believes in fantasy, miracles and magic.

Only a fool would think a name means the B S you ascribe to it but it much easier to attack that than my views, ---- to all of those who are natural hypocrites.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

You prefer to keep your head up Jesus ass instead of taking your rightful place as he says you should beside him.

I have done his bidding and so should you.

You are to pick up your cross and follow him as told to. Not try to ride him into heaven as your scapegoat.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty and here you are preaching for Satan. Shame on you.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning.

He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do too. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence.

When you die, Satan will ask you; How was your ticket to heaven purchased? With innocent blood?

When you say yes, you become his.

Regards
DL

 

[inmemoryofjrseau]

The usual blind and pathetic believer who believes in fantasy, miracles and magic.

Only a fool would think a name means the B S you ascribe to it but it much easier to attack that than my views, ---- to all of those who are natural hypocrites.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

You prefer to keep your head up Jesus ass instead of taking your rightful place as he says you should beside him.

I have done his bidding and so should you.

You are to pick up your cross and follow him as told to. Not try to ride him into heaven as your scapegoat.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty and here you are preaching for Satan. Shame on you.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning.

He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do too. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence.

When you die, Satan will ask you; How was your ticket to heaven purchased? With innocent blood?

When you say yes, you become his.

Regards
DL

UR views are just as pathetic as UR name chosen!

Romans Chapter 1 verses 18-32 says it all about U!

Even though it describes U to a T! GOD still loves U and his door is open
to U!

U will have to shut the door but, U may have already chosen to do that?
It's up to U? My hope for U, is that U give GOD a chance!

Nobody is going to force U to believe in him & it's great thing to believe that a GOD exists for even the demons know & believe that!

What has GOD done to U? To make U hate him & so bitter against him?


U are purposely picking subjects to draw attention, so someone will comment on UR pathetic statements. If, GOD doesn't exist why waste so much time & space of him???

The proof that U know GOD exists is in this.


When people curse at GOD that say either GD or JC, don't they? Revelation 16:9 & 11:8 .

When have U ever heard a person curse the name of ALLAH, Mohammed, Budda, the virgin mary, etc.

My simple point is like the bible says in Revelation people will curse GOD to his face! It's proof that even U know who the TRUE GOD IS!

 

[Greatest I am]

UR views are just as pathetic as UR name chosen!

Romans Chapter 1 verses 18-32 says it all about U!

Even though it describes U to a T! GOD still loves U and his door is open
to U!

U will have to shut the door but, U may have already chosen to do that?
It's up to U? My hope for U, is that U give GOD a chance!

Nobody is going to force U to believe in him & it's great thing to believe that a GOD exists for even the demons know & believe that!

What has GOD done to U? To make U hate him & so bitter against him?


U are purposely picking subjects to draw attention, so someone will comment on UR pathetic statements. If, GOD doesn't exist why waste so much time & space of him???

The proof that U know GOD exists is in this.


When people curse at GOD that say either GD or JC, don't they? Revelation 16:9 & 11:8 .

When have U ever heard a person curse the name of ALLAH, Mohammed, Budda, the virgin mary, etc.

My simple point is like the bible says in Revelation people will curse GOD to his face! It's proof that even U know who the TRUE GOD IS!

Why do I waste time on your pathetic myth if I do not believe it. Because your ilk does and uses that belief to do a lot of harm.

It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists as well as those who do not believe. They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief or not. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic are evil.

Religulous [part 1] - YouTube

They also do much harm to their own.

African witches and Jesus
In The name Of Jesus: Child Witches (1 of 2) - YouTube

Jesus Camp 1of 9
LiveLeak.com - Jesus Camp - Part 1 (3)

Death to Gays.
Rachel Maddow interviews David Bahati - Part 1 - YouTube

For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

Oops you are one of the evil ones and bound for hell.

Regards
DL

 

[everlong]

All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

 

[Greatest I am]

All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

]

Sell your self short if you like my friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk

Regards
DL

 

[inmemoryofjrseau]

Your attention grabbing title would make most read your headlines and believe that's what all Christians preach "Fire and Brimstone".

In reality, it's actually the opposite that Christians should preach and do!

The truth is that GOD loved us so much he came down in a body of the person ************ and lived the perfect life.

You seem to have a real issue with this gospel being preached which is gospel of love NOT hate.

I can't and don't want to change the gospel of ************ one bit.

Galatians chapter 2 verses 19-21 reads as follows:

"For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God.
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live , but Christ
lives in me. The life I now live in the body by faith in the Son of
God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be
gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Peace Bro; we can agree to disagree! No harm, no foul.

 

[Greatest I am]

Your attention grabbing title would make most read your headlines and believe that's what all Christians preach "Fire and Brimstone".

In reality, it's actually the opposite that Christians should preach and do!

The truth is that GOD loved us so much he came down in a body of the person ************ and lived the perfect life.

You seem to have a real issue with this gospel being preached which is gospel of love NOT hate.

I can't and don't want to change the gospel of ************ one bit.

Galatians chapter 2 verses 19-21 reads as follows:

"For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God.
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live , but Christ
lives in me. The life I now live in the body by faith in the Son of
God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be
gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Peace Bro; we can agree to disagree! No harm, no foul.

God love everyone in Noah's day as well.

He showed it with genocide.

Regards
DL

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

KJB
1Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Co 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Co 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
1Co 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
1Co 15:11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Co 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1Co 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1Co 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1Co 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

KJB
Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Tit 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through ************ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

 

[Greatest I am]

DisgruntledTunaFan

It is poor taste to just throw biblical garbage out into a debate O P.

Thanks for showing that your religion does not teach good manners.

You do my job of discrediting yourself.

Regards
DL

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Just FYI, "then they came for the Catholics" isn't part of the Niemoller quote.

First they came ... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nonetheless, the wording remains controversial, both in terms of its provenance, and the substance and order of the groups that are mentioned in its many versions. While Niemöller's published 1946 speeches mention communists, the incurably ill, Jews or Jehovah's Witnesses (depending on which speech), and people in occupied countries, the 1955 text, a paraphrase by a German professor in an interview, lists communists, socialists, "the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on", and ends with "the Church". Based on the explanation given by Niemöller himself in 1976, this refers to the German Protestant ('Evangelische') Church, and not to the German Catholic Church.[1] However, as claimed by Richard John Neuhaus in the November 2001 issue of his blog-like online journal 'First Things', when "asked in 1971 about the correct version of the quote, Niemöller said he was not quite sure when he had said the famous words but, if people insist upon citing them, he preferred a version that listed 'the Communists', 'the trade unionists', 'the Jews', and 'me'."

And so on. You can read the whole article if you want. It's not that important to me that Niemoller didn't say "then they came for the catholics." But basically, he didn't, and it seems pretty certain that catholics inserted themselves for their own purposes after the fact.

Not that it matters really.

PFnV

 

[Greatest I am]

You are likely correct.

I use that quote more for the flavor than for those who are named just to show how we should all be looking out for each other.

Regards
DL