Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amendola?

[JackBauer]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

You act as if I opened a thread for it; I posted a link to an article that rumored a trade in a thread that was discussing the Edelman and Amendola situation.

Did you lack the awareness and self-control to realize the rumor was bunk and refrain from sharing it with the class? Or did your perpetual Amendola jihad subroutine override your better instincts?

 

[Huckleberry1]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Stop talking out of your @ss dude have you seen Fitzgerald's stats the last two years is that what 18Mill gets you these days?? Fitzgerald is sporting an Elite QB cap number and questionable stats. If you don't think Fitzgerald's recent numbers are the norm I must be blind . Larry Fitzgerald is not a Elite WR in this league anymore for your information.

That must be why Belichick said he may well be the greatest WR to ever play the game, because he sucks. I will admit however that Belichick really doesn't know what he's talking about, he said Ed Reed was great and he even said he wouldn't take any QB over Brady, what an idiot he is.



Seriously, I don't believe you even watch football, i think you play Madden and that is it, nothing else could explain the level of ignorance you display every time you say something.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Seriously. If some of these people were any dumber we'd have to water them twice a week.

Do you ever post anything worthwhile or do you just troll around insulting other posters, do you think that makes you look smart or superior? It does not just, so you know, it makes you look petty, immature and so insecure that you need to boost your own ego by demeaning others on an internet forum in order to feel better about yourself. I do not know you as a person, outside of here so I will not comment on that except to say I have to believe you present yourself better in everyday life and are a bigger person than you convey on here sometimes. You should try and show that person in here I bet people would really enjoy and respect it, this version of you however you will only get positive feedback from those posters who post in the same petty, immature and insecure way.

 

[PatsFan2]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

That must be why Belichick said he may well be the greatest WR to ever play the game, because he sucks. I will admit however that Belichick really doesn't know what he's talking about, he said Ed Reed was great and he even said he wouldn't take any QB over Brady, what an idiot he is.



Seriously, I don't believe you even watch football, i think you play Madden and that is it, nothing else could explain the level of ignorance you display every time you say something.

And BB probably said what you quoted there in 2010 newsflash Ivan we are in 2014. Quite a bit of football time has passed since.

 

[PatsFan2]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Do you ever post anything worthwhile or do you just troll around insulting other posters, do you think that makes you look smart or superior? It does not just, so you know, it makes you look petty, immature and so insecure that you need to boost your own ego by demeaning others on an internet forum in order to feel better about yourself. I do not know you as a person, outside of here so I will not comment on that except to say I have to believe you present yourself better in everyday life and are a bigger person than you convey on here sometimes. You should try and show that person in here I bet people would really enjoy and respect it, this version of you however you will only get positive feedback from those posters who post in the same petty, immature and insecure way.

B6 I thought they had me ignore also but for some strange reason Ivan and Jack keep attacking my well thought out posts.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Did you lack the awareness and self-control to realize the rumor was bunk and refrain from sharing it with the class? Or did your perpetual Amendola jihad subroutine override your better instincts?

Realistically the writer of the article more substantiated than you are so why should I ignore his writings but put stock in yours. Unless you have a column someplace I am not aware of?

The problem is you take something so small, like posting a link that others may find interesting and you make this big ordeal out of it as if I am attempting to overthrow Belichick. I do not have a jihad, I am having a discussion because I am sitting in a room in North Carolina on a 28-hour layover by myself, and you are just defensive as if I posted a link about you being fired at work.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

B6 I thought they had me ignore also but for some strange reason Ivan and Jack keep attacking my well thought out posts.

I have Ivan on ignore, JB usually is a solid poster but lately he seems more interested in trolling for confrontation, I am hopeful that stops and he returns to adding value to conversations.

I do not get the need to attack others, we are all fans of the same team, and to be honest people’s disappointment with Amendola should not make them so emotional and angry that they lash out. That is just making a mountain out of mole hill.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

So you're evaluating a season in which Amendola was never injured too.

I know we need to consider injuries, like imagine if Edelman did not the thigh injury that limited him in weeks 7, 8, and 9.

11/3/2013-WR-(thigh)-Probable
10/27/2013-WR-(thigh)-Questionable
10/20/2013-WR-(thigh)-Questionable

He could have had 2000 yards…

 

[JackBauer]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Do you ever post anything worthwhile or do you just troll around insulting other posters, do you think that makes you look smart or superior? It does not just, so you know, it makes you look petty, immature and so insecure that you need to boost your own ego by demeaning others on an internet forum in order to feel better about yourself. I do not know you as a person, outside of here so I will not comment on that except to say I have to believe you present yourself better in everyday life and are a bigger person than you convey on here sometimes. You should try and show that person in here I bet people would really enjoy and respect it, this version of you however you will only get positive feedback from those posters who post in the same petty, immature and insecure way.

My general online philosophy is to reward thoughtfulness and insight in kind. Not all views are created equal and I see no reason to treat them as such. I likewise see no reason to suffer fools gladly lest I risk offending someone's fee fees. I really appreciate your armchair psychoanalysis but you should really keep your day job as I can and do have productive discussions with 90%+ of the posters on this board. The folks who feel the need to continuously beclown themselves are the ones I take issue with. And it has nothing to do with a difference of opinion; the statement that Larry Fitzgerald "sucks" is so self-evidently fatuous that the only proper response is a heaping pile of scorn and derision.

But your point isn't entirely lost. I'll go ahead and add PF2 to ignore to spare myself the aggravation.

 

[JackBauer]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Realistically the writer of the article more substantiated than you are so why should I ignore his writings but put stock in yours. Unless you have a column someplace I am not aware of?

Given that I'm not making a claim here, what, pray tell, do I have to substantiate?

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

My general online philosophy is to reward thoughtfulness and insight in kind. Not all views expressed her are created equal and I see no reason to treat them as such. I likewise see no reason to suffer fools gladly lest I risk offending someone's fee fees. I really appreciate your armchair psychoanalysis but you should really keep your day job as I can and do have productive discussions with 90%+ of the posters on this board. The folks who feel the need to continuously beclown themselves are the ones I take issue with. And it has nothing to do with a difference of opinion; the statement that Larry Fitzgerald "sucks" is so self-evidently fatuous that the only proper response is a heaping pile of scorn and derision.

As I said to PP2 you do have good discussion usually, but lately you seem more inclined to troll and do drive by(s) with these brash statements that ignore context. The reality is that Amendola and Edelman play a similar role on the team, Edelman is one of our top 2 UFAs this offseason, and Amendola was our biggest UFA signing since Thomas this past offseason, so the discussion around them and their values to this team is worthy of discussion. My position currently is not to get rid of Amendola, I do think looking at the options, and discussing them is something I think is meaningful however.

My opinion of Amendola is that he is inconsistent, that is all, and I have provided substantial data and context to support that belief, the response to that is to imply I have a jihad against him, which I do not. What I have is a consciousness of the type of player he has been since entering the league in 2008, and I do not anticipate that to change in 2014. If you disagree, that is fine, but do not respond with anger or brash statements, explain your reasoning for what you expect from Amendola in 2014 and why you are confident it can happen.

I never said anything about Fitzgerald suck; I think he is one of the best receiver of his generation. So I do not know how that is even relevant to this at all.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Given that I'm not making a claim here, what, pray tell, do I have to substantiate?

The implications of your post was that the writer is unsubstantiated and what he has written is meaningless, which would mean you have information that indicates the Ravens have no interest in acquiring Amendola.

 

[SalemPats]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

So you're evaluating a season in which Amendola was never injured too.

First overall you can't evaluate DA when he's healthy because he's injury prone.

Saying that did you watch the games, do you not agree that Edelman surpassed him on the depth chart and had a great season. What i saw is a player in Edelman that's quicker and better in open space, better route-runner and better hands. Mini-tron also got better as the season went on, while DA declined (not sure if you know this but DA had 0 catches in the AFCG against an awful Broncos secondary).

 

[50-yard-line]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

I have Ivan on ignore, JB usually is a solid poster but lately he seems more interested in trolling for confrontation, I am hopeful that stops and he returns to adding value to conversations.

I do not get the need to attack others, we are all fans of the same team, and to be honest people’s disappointment with Amendola should not make them so emotional and angry that they lash out. That is just making a mountain out of mole hill.

Here's a choice quote - out of the blue from you, aimed at me: "You have a biased for Amendola, you joined this forum the same month he signed, so I get it but do not manipulate numbers and act like Amendola has been a productive player throughout his career and this season was the only time Edelman has ever been successful."

That came when the discussion was perfectly reasonable and above board.

Now go read just the bolded parts - the part that started our little argument last night.

That is an attack - and not nearly as clever and disguised an attack as you apparently believe. Either that or you're just completely oblivious. You basically accused me of bias in my evaluation - you've accused others of being related to the guy. That is a tactic of condescension and dismissal - a debating tactic used to invalidate someone else's opinion.

Now go read the bolded part of your latest psychological examination of the world around you. That is a condescending and mean-spirited attack.

Given your apparent dumbfounded-ness, I'll retract my comment that you're a douchebag and just give you the benefit of the doubt and stick with oblivious.

You'll notice that others have pointed out that you really seem to have trouble with lots of posters, which you of course poo-poo away...so that makes you the king who is married 8 times, has no kids, and curses the fates for the unbelievably bad luck of marrying 8 barren women.

And for the record, I'm no more disappointed with Amendola than I am with Vollmer, Mayo, Talib, Gronkowski, Wilfork, Vereen, or Kelly. It's the NFL. Disappointed they got hurt? You bet. Disappointed WITH them? Not even close, and those are two different things.

On the other hand, I am sorely disappointed in the Prisoner.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

I know we need to consider injuries, like imagine if Edelman did not the thigh injury that limited him in weeks 7, 8, and 9.

11/3/2013-WR-(thigh)-Probable
10/27/2013-WR-(thigh)-Questionable
10/20/2013-WR-(thigh)-Questionable

He could have had 2000 yards…

According to the other posters revisionist history, Amendola had 10 catches to 7 for Edelman, then Edelman completely outplayed him the next four games, beat him out and won Brady's confidence. Why it was as if Amendola didn't even show up.:wha::ugh::ugh:

You're not required to defend other posters nonsense, you've got plenty to handle on your own.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

B6 I thought they had me ignore also but for some strange reason Ivan and Jack keep attacking my well thought out posts.

Your next well thought-out post will be your first one.

 

[primetime]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

The implications of your post was that the writer is unsubstantiated and what he has written is meaningless, which would mean you have information that indicates the Ravens have no interest in acquiring Amendola.

Did you read the article? It's just a musing based on the fact that a Globe article from a month ago suggested it was possible that the Patriots may cut ties with Amendola and that there were reports that the Ravens had some interest in him last year. The word rumor in the headline was used flippantly to generate clicks; there were no sources in the article nor indication that it was anything other than the author suggesting it as a possibility based on very circumstantial evidence.

It's like me saying "Rumor: the Patriots may try to trade Tom Brady" and then saying you have no way to prove me wrong because you can't quote any sources that say otherwise.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

First overall you can't evaluate DA when he's healthy because he's injury prone.

Saying that did you watch the games, do you not agree that Edelman surpassed him on the depth chart and had a great season. What i saw is a player in Edelman that's quicker and better in open space, better route-runner and better hands. Mini-tron also got better as the season went on, while DA declined (not sure if you know this but DA had 0 catches in the AFCG against an awful Broncos secondary).

Edelman completely outplayed him games 2,3,4 and five, when Brady needed a target.

I find it hard to believe two different posters could be so obtuse. You must be a second account for b6.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

I don't know if i can make it til the draft in May.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Edelman may be worth $6-$8 million, but is he worth that to a team that has Amend

Maybe we should have Edelman play tight end instead of Gronk, since he outplayed him for some unidentifiable reason.