During OTAs, Stefon Diggs workin' it hard

[captain stone]

Im a Father of 3 sons as well.

 

[Water Boy]

Ah.. shawmut bank. My very first bank account was there!.. then it went to bank Boston? Then bay bank then fleet bank.. ? Good Ole days..

My first account was with Shawmut and I think its matriculated through several bank acquisitions to the same account I have today with BOA. I've had the same account number for as long as I can remember.

 

[captain stone]

Ah.. shawmut bank. My very first bank account was there!.. then it went to bank Boston? Then bay bank then fleet bank.. ? Good Ole days..

Yeah the original name for the new Garden was going to be the Shawmut Center until Shawmut was acquired by Fleet during construction sometime in 1994 IIRC...

 

[denverpatsfan]

Not sure where these negative vibes are coming from. Everyone here should be pulling for this guy to contribute week 1. Winnable game. Don't care who he is yachting with on his downtime. Even coming off an injury he is head and shoulders better than the trash this team has been rolling out at wide receiver the past 6 seasons.

 

[n1997y]

Same tier as Canobie Lake Park back in the day.

I loved Canobie Lake Park. We went there for high school senior trip.

My mom worked at the old Shawmut bank HQ downtown; and every year they would host an employee outing, first at Pleasure Island in Wakefield until it closed in 1970, then at Canobie Lake Park until at least the time I buggered-off to join the USMC. Good times, good times...

When I worked at DEC during their heyday back in the ‘80s the annual Canobie Lake employee outings every fall were a really big deal, even bigger than the Christmas turkey distributions.

 

[Patjew]

When I worked at DEC during their heyday back in the ‘80s the annual Canobie Lake employee outings every fall were a really big deal, even bigger than the Christmas turkey distributions.

DEC was a big customer of ours and I know/knew several engineers there. A very, very talented group. It was a bummer when they became Compaq and then HP and then...

 

[n1997y]

DEC was a big customer of ours and I know/knew several engineers there. A very, very talented group. It was a bummer when they became Compaq and then HP and then...

It was great. Until it wasn’t. The rise and fall of Ken Olsen was the arc of the company. Too bad. But good while it lasted.

 

[TheRainMaker]

We're going to look back at this during the season and say "remember when Zolak said he was going to be cut?"

 

[captain stone]

We're going to look back at this during the season and say "remember when Zolak said he was going to be cut?"

It's going to happen, eventually. Of that you can be sure.

 

[maust]

Im a Father of 3 sons as well.

5 here, my long suffering bride is one hell of a Boy Mom

 

[mikey m]

It's going to happen, eventually. Of that you can be sure.

On a related note, and as someone with very little understanding of the salary cap and contracts, can anyone explain to me why his contract is worked out so that he has an $8.7M cap hit this year followed by a $26.5M cap hit the next two seasons when we have a ton of cap space available this year ($60.4M) and we are over next year (-$13.5M)?

 

[dliverey44]

I hope he fails it.

Why??

 

[dliverey44]

Patriots decline to say whether Stefon Diggs has passed key physical in contract

Diggs did not participate in team drills on Monday.

www.nbcsports.com

Decline as in no response or decline as in "no comment"? Two very different things...

Decline as in "ain't none your business"

 

[TommyD4207]

He'll take himself away soon enough.

Nah. You get to seethe at him for the next two years.

 

[captain stone]

Why??

Because I never would've signed him to that contract in the first place. Massive over-pay for what he now brings, and doesn't bring, to the table. He's also Anti-culture. I would've gone a completely different route this past offseason at WR (and at LT, but that's a position for another thread)).

 

[patfanken]

Because I never would've signed him to that contract in the first place. Massive over-pay for what he now brings, and doesn't bring, to the table. He's also Anti-culture. I would've gone a completely different route this past offseason at WR (and at LT, but that's a position for another thread)).

Not a massive overpay, especially given the reality to get a name like Diggs to come here. We all knew that getting FA's to come to a perceived floundering franchise is a reality across the league, just like getting team friendly deals are reality for FA's chasing rings with perceived contenders.

And aside from Diggs having a few diva melt downs when he didn't feel like he was getting the ball enough, he's played consistently well in just about every season he's been in the NFL.

He looks like he is FAR ahead of where Bourne was at this time last season. He looked quick and explosive for a guy who is only 7 months from his ACL injury. From all reports he is working hard on his rehab, working well with his teammates and looks to be exactly the kind of leader and example on the field they wanted when they signed the veteran receiver.

That $69MM is an agent's number and the actual money on what will end up being a 2 year deal is much more reasonable as its been reported here over and over again.

I'm very realistic here. I'm not expecting elite numbers here from Diggs. He is 32 and coming off a serious injury. In my world if he really becomes a positive leader in the WR room and shows that very young group how to become pros and contributes over 800 yds and 5 TD's I'll consider it a good signing. We don't need him to be an all pro. Just a solid wide out and a good leader.

I don't quite understand your negativity on Diggs, Cap. The boat thing is just media click bait. Felger even admitted it one day last week and it will be forgotten by the time TC starts.

 

[Clonamery]

5 here, my long suffering bride is one hell of a Boy Mom

Man, that's a lot of laundry and cereal.

 

[maust]

Man, that's a lot of laundry and cereal.

F-ton of milk too. Our feed bill back in the day probably eclipsed the budget of some small countries. And yeah, the damn washing machine hardly ever stopped running. Neither did my wife or I come to think of it. So damn quiet now it's almost surreal. OFC school will be out soon and we'll be waist deep in grandkids all summer

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

F-ton of milk too. Our feed bill back in the day probably eclipsed the budget of some small countries. And yeah, the damn washing machine hardly ever stopped running. Neither did my wife or I come to think of it. So damn quiet now it's almost surreal. OFC school will be out soon and we'll be waist deep in grandkids all summer

These days I think it is "Ef-ton of milk too"?

 

[maust]

On a related note, and as someone with very little understanding of the salary cap and contracts, can anyone explain to me why his contract is worked out so that he has an $8.7M cap hit this year followed by a $26.5M cap hit the next two seasons when we have a ton of cap space available this year ($60.4M) and we are over next year (-$13.5M)?

Unlike most contracts Diggs' deal is not difficult to decipher, you just need to consider the circumstances. He's coming off a major injury and his contributions will most likely be limited at first. His contract allows for a relatively low cost cut after the 1st year if he doesn't make it back to top form that 1st year minimizes the risk. The 2nd & 3rd years are more in line with high end WR1 compensation, if Diggs performs as everyone hopes he'll be compensated accordingly if not the team moves on without an albatross contract around its neck