Content Post Drake Maye has arrived . . .

[PatsFan2]

Game of centimeters..

IF D James had tipped that Two Chargers was in the area for a Basket catch. Charger Defenders are going to think about that play all Off-Season. Maye's deep ball accuracy was on display there: he has "it".

 

[scott99]

Why I love Maye is, he has some Brady in him. I always thought of Brady like a super hero, but a super hero like Batman, who wasn’t always perfect. Batman took some hits, and always came back strong. Brady was like that. He wasn’t perfect, he’d make mistakes, but would come back stronger. One great example, the pick six in SB 51, no QB in the history of the SB has thrown a pick six and won a SB. Of course the comeback in that game will never be matched.

Maye has some of that in him. He’s not always perfect, but he doesn’t seem to have back to back subpar games. And don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t exactly “subpar” vs the Chargers, maybe subpar for him. He passed for 268 yards and ran for 66 yards. The turnovers and lower completion percentage made it a subpar type game for Maye. The Oline was bad for the Pats vs the Chargers. They caused the pressure and for Maye to run, which I’m sure wasn’t the plan. This game reminded me so much of SB 53 I the way it played out. Good defense by both teams.

 

[rogerthat]

Where does Drake rank right now today?

#1 Mahomes (still need to put him 1 due to SB and playoff history)
#2 Allen
#3 Jackson
#4 Hurts (I don't see how he can be lower than 4th right now even with some issues)
#5 Burrow - I want to believe he's elite... but in the back of my mind i wonder how much is Chase, Higgins and those weapons. He's had 2 pretty decent playoff runs and he plays with a crap D.

I think for now you need to put these 5 above him.

#6 Goff?
#7 Love? They are both maybes.
#8 Herbert? has had pretty good teams and pretty good stats... but for all these years what has it led to? Some put him #6... frankly i see that as a possibility 6-9 could have some movement for sure.
#9 Mayfield has put up good stats the last 3 years with a really solid cast.... but it hasn't lead to all that many wins or much playoff success? Is he one of those stat machine QBs who put up numbers in good offenses but can't actually do anything with it like Cousins was and Prescott are?
#10/11 Stafford has a super bowl win sure... but he's so inconsistent... kind of a stat QB who sometimes puts up good numbers with good offenses and sometimes doesn't... He had 1 good run in the playoffs and beat a cincy team clearly not ready for that spot with an all star cast.
#10/11 Prescott is basically stafford without the run, likely cause he hasn't had as stacked a team where things didn't line up for him as much.
#12 Maye might be here... but I look at who is left and can confidently say he can't be worse. #12 right now i think is his absolute bottom.

Personally even though he has only played 17 games I'd him above a fair amount of these non-top 5 guys. I feel like right now #8 right now is kind of fair. Has he proven it 100%? No. But the eye test says right now he is better than a lot of those goes in this 6-11 tier... and is still improving.

How does this list look now? Guys like Prescott, Love, Herbert, Goff etc... aren't even in the same league as Maye.

 

[p8ryts]

How does this list look now? Guys like Prescott, Love, Herbert, Goff etc... aren't even in the same league as Maye.

#3

 

[rogerthat]

#3

I've got him #1 by a wide margin. 23 years old.

 

[Betterthanmost]

This was a very good game for Maye. So much learning and loved his time management lessons he was able to experience in a playoff win. You normally learn these in a lose. Thank you Charges for wanting and getting us.

 

[BobDigital]

How does this list look now? Guys like Prescott, Love, Herbert, Goff etc... aren't even in the same league as Maye.

Well the only guy i would have probably had above him at this point (This was said right after the first Bills game... so game 5 of year 2) that you mentioned was Love and Goff. Cause at that particular point of time I had him at #8. Hurts was falling a little... but pedigree matters a lot to me and I wasn't fully ready to jump off the Hurts band wagon yet. 1 win and 2 SB appearances as well as some decent stats for a long run before this year. I know his team was loaded but it is hard to ignore results like that.

At this point yes... Goff, Love and Hurts are all lower. They have fallen in my estimation a fair amount this year. Maye has to be top 5, no question.

The only guys that can realistically be put over him are Allen, Jackson, Mahomes and Burrow. We saw a lot of these guys injured recently though. Right now after his playoff win (as unpretty as it was) I am comfortable putting him above Lamar and Burrow.

Lamar has had some sensational stat runs but he just depends on his running so much and i have no idea what it will look like going forward. Also his lack of playoff success after so many years in the league and such a good team around him hurts. The same could be said for Mahomes to a degree. but Lamar is even more dependent on his physic gifts and has a lot less legacy to make me believe he can get you there.

Burrow has been to a bowl and put up stats. But the fact he has only been to the playoffs twice in 6 years isn't good. Yes he was injured some... but availability is an ability. While he had 2 good playoff runs... you need to get in the dance more. 2 in 6 isn't good enough.

So i put Maye over those 2. Allen is just a beast.. and until Mahomes shows he absolutely sucks I won't doubt him. I will forever put him over Maye until he has back to back losing records/one and dones. Mahomes needs to demonstrate he isn't the guy to carry a team to a super bowl anymore. 1 year won't change that. So Maye is below both.

Now if Maye wins a SB this year... maybe the convo can be had a bit more about if he can replace one of these 2.

 

[jal]

Well the only guy i would have probably had above him at this point (This was said right after the first Bills game... so game 5 of year 2) that you mentioned was Love and Goff. Cause at that particular point of time I had him at #8. Hurts was falling a little... but pedigree matters a lot to me and I wasn't fully ready to jump off the Hurts band wagon yet. 1 win and 2 SB appearances as well as some decent stats for a long run before this year. I know his team was loaded but it is hard to ignore results like that.

At this point yes... Goff, Love and Hurts are all lower. They have fallen in my estimation a fair amount this year. Maye has to be top 5, no question.

The only guys that can realistically be put over him are Allen, Jackson, Mahomes and Burrow. We saw a lot of these guys injured recently though. Right now after his playoff win (as unpretty as it was) I am comfortable putting him above Lamar and Burrow.

Lamar has had some sensational stat runs but he just depends on his running so much and i have no idea what it will look like going forward. Also his lack of playoff success after so many years in the league and such a good team around him hurts. The same could be said for Mahomes to a degree. but Lamar is even more dependent on his physic gifts and has a lot less legacy to make me believe he can get you there.

Burrow has been to a bowl and put up stats. But the fact he has only been to the playoffs twice in 6 years isn't good. Yes he was injured some... but availability is an ability. While he had 2 good playoff runs... you need to get in the dance more. 2 in 6 isn't good enough.

So i put Maye over those 2. Allen is just a beast.. and until Mahomes shows he absolutely sucks I won't doubt him. I will forever put him over Maye until he has back to back losing records/one and dones. Mahomes needs to demonstrate he isn't the guy to carry a team to a super bowl anymore. 1 year won't change that. So Maye is below both.

Now if Maye wins a SB this year... maybe the convo can be had a bit more about if he can replace one of these 2.

Josh Allen is a top performer and he generally brings it when the lights are brightest. Same with Mahomes (perhaps even more so, although I'd argue the difference between them is that Mahomes has had more support around him in terms of coaching and other guys stepping up to make THAT key play).

Drake can play at their level generally, the question will be can he do it consistently in the biggest moments. If he can, then he absolutely belongs in that tier. So far there's nothing that says he can't do it. The most important quality he has shown beyond the physical capabilities and his willingness to work hard is his emotional resilience. He always bounces back and does so within the same game. That was Brady's most defining quality that he always showed from Day 1 (and what I believe separated him from Peyton Manning), and Maye is showing that as well.

And remember he will continue to improve - he still has quarters/halves where he struggles to diagnose what's going on, he will sometimes makes bone-headed plays when he should just eat a sack (see last night). These are things that will improve a lot with experience. His proven work ethic almost guarantees he will improve those things.

Beyond getting to the top of the position, from a historical standpoint I think the next challenge after that will be to stay hungry after reaching the pinnacle (what made Brady THE GOAT)...but let's take one thing at a time.

 

[TheRainMaker]

This was a good test for Maye. He got beat up, made some bad plays, but didn't let it get to him.

 

[rogerthat]

Well the only guy i would have probably had above him at this point (This was said right after the first Bills game... so game 5 of year 2) that you mentioned was Love and Goff. Cause at that particular point of time I had him at #8. Hurts was falling a little... but pedigree matters a lot to me and I wasn't fully ready to jump off the Hurts band wagon yet. 1 win and 2 SB appearances as well as some decent stats for a long run before this year. I know his team was loaded but it is hard to ignore results like that.

At this point yes... Goff, Love and Hurts are all lower. They have fallen in my estimation a fair amount this year. Maye has to be top 5, no question.

The only guys that can realistically be put over him are Allen, Jackson, Mahomes and Burrow. We saw a lot of these guys injured recently though. Right now after his playoff win (as unpretty as it was) I am comfortable putting him above Lamar and Burrow.

Lamar has had some sensational stat runs but he just depends on his running so much and i have no idea what it will look like going forward. Also his lack of playoff success after so many years in the league and such a good team around him hurts. The same could be said for Mahomes to a degree. but Lamar is even more dependent on his physic gifts and has a lot less legacy to make me believe he can get you there.

Burrow has been to a bowl and put up stats. But the fact he has only been to the playoffs twice in 6 years isn't good. Yes he was injured some... but availability is an ability. While he had 2 good playoff runs... you need to get in the dance more. 2 in 6 isn't good enough.

So i put Maye over those 2. Allen is just a beast.. and until Mahomes shows he absolutely sucks I won't doubt him. I will forever put him over Maye until he has back to back losing records/one and dones. Mahomes needs to demonstrate he isn't the guy to carry a team to a super bowl anymore. 1 year won't change that. So Maye is below both.

Now if Maye wins a SB this year... maybe the convo can be had a bit more about if he can replace one of these 2.

I hear the argument on on Mahomes and Allen. Don't necessarily agree, but I hear it. Anyway, interesting post regardless.

 

[PatsFan2]

Josh Allen is a top performer and he generally brings it when the lights are brightest. Same with Mahomes (perhaps even more so, although I'd argue the difference between them is that Mahomes has had more support around him in terms of coaching and other guys stepping up to make THAT key play).

Drake can play at their level generally, the question will be can he do it consistently in the biggest moments. If he can, then he absolutely belongs in that tier. So far there's nothing that says he can't do it. The most important quality he has shown beyond the physical capabilities and his willingness to work hard is his emotional resilience. He always bounces back and does so within the same game. That was Brady's most defining quality that he always showed from Day 1 (and what I believe separated him from Peyton Manning), and Maye is showing that as well.

And remember he will continue to improve - he still has quarters/halves where he struggles to diagnose what's going on, he will sometimes makes bone-headed plays when he should just eat a sack (see last night). These are things that will improve a lot with experience. His proven work ethic almost guarantees he will improve those things.

Beyond getting to the top of the position, from a historical standpoint I think the next challenge after that will be to stay hungry after reaching the pinnacle (what made Brady THE GOAT)...but let's take one thing at a time.

 

[Huckleberry1]

This was a good test for Maye. He got beat up, made some bad plays, but didn't let it get to him.

Maye's learning curve is like nothing I have ever seen. He tried to make a couple of plays when he shouldn't have last night, but that's because they were struggling to put points up. I don't believe we will see him repeat those mistakes the rest of the way in these playoffs.

 

[Uptown]

Playoff wins:

GOAT - 35
Baby GOAT - 1


He’s closing in on ya, Tommy boy…..

 

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

Playoff wins:

GOAT - 35
Baby GOAT - 1


He’s closing in on ya, Tommy boy…..

Baby GOAT - 2


Sleep with one eye open, Thomas Edward Patrick…

 

[Uptown]

 

[Guts]

Maye's learning curve is like nothing I have ever seen. He tried to make a couple of plays when he shouldn't have last night, but that's because they were struggling to put points up. I don't believe we will see him repeat those mistakes the rest of the way in these playoffs.

Today was a bit of a regression
Bro needs to stop fumbling
His clock needs to be faster

 

[Dexter]

He's already way ahead than most of us thought he would be year 2.
Drake will learn from it. His first playoffs, playing against elite defenses - he will only get better and even with those issues you see many brilliant plays that make him really special

 

[bormio]

Maye has a lot of positives, but the one thing we has that is most valuable is the belief of his teammates that he will find a way. 2nd year players don’t usually have that from vets - he does

 

[sb1]

Maye is 2-0 so far in the playoffs in his second season.

Mahomes only got to 1-1. Huh. I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin….