Drake Maye has arrived . . .

[Triumph]

Maye will have tough games ahead.

Its never perfect. Brady had his off game now and then too.

 

[pazrul72]

I don't mean to brag but I got a ring because of my D. mostly other things but I like to think it was for my D. lol

Is that D for delusional? My experience says no guy gets a ring for his D, just his wallet.

 

[Kdo5]

Realistically when you look at age, contract, trajectory and current performance is there any QB in the league you’d trade Drake Maye for?

No homer - but I can’t think of anyone.

Mahomes, Allen have been working with average to bum WRs. Yes I’d take them both at their current ages over Maye. QBs have a pretty good shelf life, especially the most dedicated guys. But that’s probably where I’d stop.

Check in by seasons end and I could have a different answer.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Not just you, he does a really good job at protecting his WRs most of the time. I also love that he puts the blame on himself afterwards by saying things like I missed it and threw behind or whatever, but he knows he is saving lives on those throws. It tells me that he has a pretty high football IQ. He has gone beyond my expectations for 5 games into the season, because he is making smarter plays every week and not as many dumbass plays.

I disagree about the throw to Booty, Had he got the ball while standing he had room for YAC. Maye had time to set his feet rather than throw on the run, but its a nit pick for me because he made the right decision with the ball.

Gotcha, id have to watch it again because i thought the safety would’ve had the angle if boutte caught it upright and he might have got a couple more yards at best. But glad we agree on the iq , Brady did the same here and avoided the hospital balls. I think teammates appreciate it, so far Drake has the overall good teammate locked down too

 

[libra957]

His passer rating is outstanding

 

[PatsFan2]

Maye will have tough games ahead.

Its never perfect. Brady had his off game now and then too.

Did Bra Bra Brady say that?? I'm stuttering in ecstasy.

 

[PatsFan2]

Mahomes, Allen have been working with average to bum WRs. Yes I’d take them both at their current ages over Maye. QBs have a pretty good shelf life, especially the most dedicated guys. But that’s probably where I’d stop.

Check in by seasons end and I could have a different answer.

Joe Burrow is Big Time too when he's not injured.

 

[TommyD4207]

Mahomes, Allen have been working with average to bum WRs. Yes I’d take them both at their current ages over Maye. QBs have a pretty good shelf life, especially the most dedicated guys. But that’s probably where I’d stop.

Check in by seasons end and I could have a different answer.

I don't...know, about Mahomes anymore.

Not every QB plays to 40. Russell Wilson fell off a cliff after his age 31 season.

Edit: His dad fell off a cliff at 29.

 

[PatsFan2]

I don't...know, about Mahomes anymore.

Not every QB plays to 40. Russell Wilson fell off a cliff after his age 31 season.

Let me tell you: just turned 30 will win the AFC West again: and will probably be in AFC-CG again. Hope I didn't miss anything.

 

[TommyD4207]

Let me tell you: just turned 30 will win the AFC West again: and will probably be in AFC-CG again. Hope I didn't miss anything.

If you say so.

If they're sitting at 4-6 in a few weeks, will you be here saying 'It's KC, they'll be fine'? You wouldn't be alone. Plenty of national talking heads would agree with you.

I'm just saying, some QBs hit 30 and start to fall off, they don't all level out. We forget this, because we saw someone actually get better after their age 30 season, but that's atypical.

He hasn't been the same since the middle of 2023. I don't know if it's injury or natural regression, but it's clear the relying on sheer talent part is starting to fade out. Will he make up for it by being smarter? We'll see. If he's smarter, he'll turn into Checkdown Charlie and have a good statistical season in the next couple of years and the team might still win games.

 

[Brotherblues]

I don't...know, about Mahomes anymore.

Not every QB plays to 40. Russell Wilson fell off a cliff after his age 31 season.

Edit: His dad fell off a cliff at 29.

Modern QBs depend too much on their legs. When they lose a step it's like having to learn the position from scratch. Especially for shorter guys like Wilson.

Not every QB plays to 40 but many used to. It'll be much, much rarer going forward.

 

[grux]

Modern QBs depend too much on their legs. When they lose a step it's like having to learn the position from scratch. Especially for shorter guys like Wilson.

Not every QB plays to 40 but many used to. It'll be much, much rarer going forward.

I agree. Modern QB's are running and taking more hits. It will be interesting to see if they can turn into a pocket passer or just retire earlier than QB's of previous generations.

 

[TommyD4207]

Modern QBs depend too much on their legs. When they lose a step it's like having to learn the position from scratch. Especially for shorter guys like Wilson.

Not every QB plays to 40 but many used to. It'll be much, much rarer going forward.

True.

Pat Mahomes (the pitcher) had an ERA+ of 123 his age 29 season, and an ERA+ of 82 his age 30 season.
Thought for food.

 

[manxman2601]

 

[dliverey44]

Is that D for delusional? My experience says no guy gets a ring for his D, just his wallet.

If you ask my wife it is for delusional, but you're not asking her so its for My D***. My wallet was so empty when we got married, I had just joined the Air Force and got paid very little.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I think the contract makes that a no brainer answer.

Just on pure play to win a game today there are a few guys, not that many though, I'd take over Drake.

A better question is; Assuming contract was the same, who do you want to be your QB the next decade?
I'd eliminate the QB's over 28, Burrow will be 29 this year, and Allen is already so out due to age. 5 years more of Maye in his prime over them.

The top QB's left in the discussion, IMO, are:

Love-26
Hurts-27
Daniels-24-will be 25 in December
Herbert-27
Maye-23

If they all cost the same over the next 10 years, who do you take?

My answer is easy since Maye was the best college prospect I saw at QB going back almost a decade and I believed when he was drafted, IF he was not in a bad situation, he'd be the NFL's best QB, or close to it, for a decade. But I know not everyone is that enthusiastic.

On tape I'd put Herbert as the next guy.
On rookie success and similar age, Daniels.
I would not choose either over Maye but those are the two I think you can make an argument for.

I agree with you, though I think Love gets underrated in these types of discussions.

 

[Zuma]

Drake Maye arriving...

 

[KCSVEN]

I agree with you, though I think Love gets underrated in these types of discussions.

Jordan Love with his smooth throwing motion and arm talent looks like he should be an all pro every year based on that alone.
Then you see he throws to the first read, if not open, dumps it to the back. Over and over and over. Lafleur is very good at getting the first read open but when you play a team with a defense like the Browns this year, you see the issues with Love.
Browns will give many QB's fits this year and interesting when Drake faces them.

I thought early on Love was going to be a great one. IMHO He'll remain only good because his processing is not good and he relies on the OC to do the processing for him. Luckily, he has a great OC but only takes you so far.

 

[PP2]

Modern QBs depend too much on their legs. When they lose a step it's like having to learn the position from scratch. Especially for shorter guys like Wilson.

Not every QB plays to 40 but many used to. It'll be much, much rarer going forward.

It was a blessing in disguise that Brady was so effing slow. It forced him to become the best pocket passer ever.

I hope that someone will warn Maye that his legs will eventually betray him.

 

[Dec54]

Brakes on a tad everyone, lets not get too far in front of ourselves. Do I believe that Drake is going to be our franchise QB and one of the best in football, you had better believe I do. But it is early and he is still learning, there is going to be times when he struggles or has a bad game. There are certain people on this forum that will leap at the chance to vilify him. So lets just enjoy watching him grow week by week and not get too carried away.