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  1. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Florida Man PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Good call. Wasn't he the one who was manhandling Brandon Spikes in the SEC Championship?
     
  2. KDPPatsfan85

    KDPPatsfan85 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Let me stir the pot a little bit. Yes, i would trade, BUT I would give up the #22 pick for Calvin Johnson and one of their 5th rounders :D.
     
  3. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Florida Man PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Yep. I also have a chance of hooking up with Jessica Alba.
     
  4. WhiZa

    WhiZa Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I didn't mean rookies solely, but as an entire team. It seemed like everyone hoped that every player would take a step forward last season and then it never happened. If the biggest off season transaction is signing some rookies then I truly wont' be looking forward to the upcoming season like I have in years past.
     
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    Personally, I think you would make a really cute couple.
     
  6. PatsCanDoIt

    PatsCanDoIt Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Agreed. I think Bill's method for areas of real weakness is to sign 2 FAs and draft a guy. Last year he signed Springs and Bodden, and drafted Butler. He also signed Galloway, traded for Lewis, drafted Tate and Edelman. For LB he signed TBC, Lennin, traded for Burgess,gave Teddy another go, drafted McKenzie. Similar moves were done at oline, special teams and RB. That is Bill's M.O. The see what sticks method.

    Some aquisitions worked out, most of the FAs ones did not. I think he will try to get experienced playmakers and I hope for more success this year.
     
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    PatsCanDoIt Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Would we consider a first next year for that trade up?
     
  8. mgteich

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    Consider the defense which was #5 in scoring defense and certainly a top defense. Consider this defense without Bodden, Banta-Cain, McGowan, and Burgess (yes even Burgess). These were all important additions who played in over 50% of the defensive reps.
    Add Butler, who was our nickel, and you have a very reasonable set of additions, almost all free agents.

    I understand that this doesn't sit well with the Peppers or bust folks, but these choices were very reasonable and were a very reasonable use of cap monies.

    I just hope that we do as well with 2010 acquisitions on the defensive side of the ball.
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    It is on the offensive side of the ball that we need help, partly because we didn't do much in 2009 eith our free agent acquisitions of baker, taylor, Smith, Lewis and Galloway.

    The need on the offensive side in even greater in 2010. We still need two receivers to start the season. We still could use a running back. We still need a starting TE. And we could use a veteran G/C. Those weren the needs in 2010. Those were the needs in 2009.

     
  9. DW Toys

    DW Toys In the Starting Line-Up

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    Good post sir! Get a Dansby and the Draft is going a different way for the Pats. You would need a veteran WR to upgrade over Aiken plus a WR. Tate is too big of a question mark to pencil him in. I like Jereme Urban. 6'3" and 207 with blazing speed, 34 catches at 13.2 YPC , 4 TD's and the best stat 19 first downs (55%) in those 34 catches in 2008. He had six catches in the 2008 Playoffs. He was a stand out ST guy and a better option than we have past Edelman including the unknown Tate who could be another Crable Red Cross posterboy. Only 18 Catches in 2009 but missed 6 games with an injury, now healed. Why? because he would be a value WR and inexpensive so we can spend on Dansby and perhaps a Aaron Kampman DE/LB.
    DW Toys
     
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    I agree 100%. This kid explodes off the line with a flat back and moves people off the LOS. In pass protection he can sink his hips and uses his hands fairly well.

    Plus he has experience in a zone blocking scheme, something that should appeal to BB.
     
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    This is similar to what I have been saying for a long time. Our O Line sometimes gets a bad rep because BB has a stable of either dancers or old mules for RB's. Our O Line has to hold their blocks longer than any O Line in football, because our RB's are either dancing in the backfield or taking forever to get those 30 plus year old legs going.

    Give our O Line guys a chance, put a real RB with some speed and courage back there and let's see how muc better they look. Right now no defense fears our ancient stable of past their prime runners. So the defenses gear up for the pass and if they happen to run into a dancing Maroney or an ancient RB gasping for air on the way to Brady, so much the better.

    It's all about playmakers vs. nap takers.
     
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    Johnson would be a fine addition.

    We would start camp with
    Light, Mankins, Koppen, Kaczur, Vollmer
    LeVoir, Johnson, Orhnberger, Connolly/Wendell

     
  13. carolinatony

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    Thank you.
    This is what a lot of us fans don't get. We have a need and its there for the taking and we pass and trade down for Value. This is why we have slipped the last few years. Draft a player who can help you if he's there on your pick.
    We need top players not value players.
    I already figure BB will trade our #22 back.
     
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    Seneschal2 In the Starting Line-Up

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    No less than their #2 and #3 this draft. Having four 2nd-rounders and one 3rd-rounder means the Pats would have 5 picks from #34 to the second pick of round three. It's very easy to list 5 players who fit the Pats in that range of picks. Most, if not all of the five could contribute this season, with hopefully at least one being an impact player.

    I'd do the trade, only because I'm not enamored with who (I think) will be available at #22. Of course there are a few prospects who I can see BB selecting there, but no one I would call a difference maker (for this season).

    My #1 ranked OG for the Pats, and IMO a legitimate target in round two.
     
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    Ya that sounds about right, pass on the first round talent pick up an extra 4th rounder and a guy that will be playing for another team after two years on our PS.
     
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