New to the forum but a long long-time Pats fan for 39 years. And I WILL emphasize, a PATRIOTS fan. My pondering question, given how Tom has won 6 SB's, could he have won as many Superbowls, based on his stats while being coached by Raymond Berry in that era?. AND. Could Steve Grogan, based on his stats, win SB's, with Belicheck?. Before any of you answer the question, I don't want emotional answers, I'd like at least some concrete reasons.