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[Huckleberry1]

I understand that the Bible is one part of Revelation along with the Oral teaching of the church and that the church has been given the gift of the Magisterium to interpret both.

Isn't The Vatican currently facing numerous lawsuits over their Oral Teachings?


Actually, now that i think of it they promoted Cardinal Law to The Vatican because his diocese was so successful in their Oral Teachings.

 

[Patsrock]

http://bishop-accountability.org/member/

When that page doesn't exist you can tell me about priests and word of god.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

So the answer is you pick and choose which rules must be followed based upon your own needs?

Where are you getting that I said that?

I would say follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic church because I believe she is who she says she is and as such has the authority to speak as God's authority on earth.

Part of that teaching is to love those who sin and help those who struggle with sin as well confess one's own sins.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Where are you getting that I said that?

I would say follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic church because I believe she is who she says she is and as such has the authority to speak as God's authority on earth.

Part of that teaching is to love those who sin and help those who struggle with sin as well confess one's own sins.

Wow, really?


One of the most corrupt and immoral institutions in the history of mankind operates directly off of the word of God?


If I were God, and I am not, I would sue for slander.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

Priest Search

When that page doesn't exist you can tell me about priests and word of god.

oh really.....well I guess you'll discount the authority of the USA because of slavery? Segregation? Japanese-American citizens concentration camps? Forced sterlization?

 

[Huckleberry1]

Where are you getting that I said that?

I would say follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic church because I believe she is who she says she is and as such has the authority to speak as God's authority on earth.

Part of that teaching is to love those who sin and help those who struggle with sin as well confess one's own sins.

Boiling people was really effective to that end. I know dipping me into a vat of boiling water a few times would make me love God a whole bunch.

 

[Huckleberry1]

oh really.....well I guess you'll discount the authority of the USA because of slavery? Segregation? Japanese-American citizens concentration camps? Forced sterlization?

Nuking Japan, The Trail of Tears, the list goes on and on, but to answer your question, yes, The USA has as much moral authority as the Catholic Church, in other words---none.


But hey, at least Vladimir Putin is on your side.

 

[upstater1]

No, I actually answered it a while back.

My post was on page 20. Between page 20 and your post above, there isn't a rely to my question about Lot and the Angels.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

Wow, really?


One of the most corrupt and immoral institutions in the history of mankind operates directly off of the word of God?


If I were God, and I am not, I would sue for slander.

I hardly think that the Catholic church is one of the most corrupt and immoral institutions in the history of mankind given Communism, Nazism, American Slavery, Totalitarianism, etc.

But sure, hyperbole makes an argument sound better. Also, lets forget the billion and billions and billions of acts of charity that the church has done throughour it's history. Better just to focus on the bad apples rather than the whole pie.

 

[Patsrock]

oh really.....well I guess you'll discount the authority of the USA because of slavery? Segregation? Japanese-American citizens concentration camps? Forced sterlization?

And that has nothing to do with this at all.

When Priests Stop raping, sodomizing little boys talk to me. They haven't stopped and new allegations and convictions are happening all the time.

Those you mention are all terrible and atrocious things and should never be forgiven or forgotten.

Neither should the thousands of lives ruined by Catholic priests. Or the millions upon millions of lives lost in the name of the Church and God.

 

[BelichicksHoodie]

And now the bible thumping yahoos are out in full force. How many of you shave? In your bible, the book of Leviticus specifically, strictly forbids of shaving, cutting the edge of your hair among other things.

 

[LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady]

Gayness IS a tragedy.

These gays are so confused. Most of these gay men run around acting all womanly or should I say attempt to act like a "ghetto black woman" (it's true) and claim to be attracted to men, but they are dating some other man that acts like a woman or some abominated queer, who turned himself into a woman through surgery and pills. If you are so attracted to men, why must you act like a chick or be the chick in the relationship? Why are you still having sex with women, spreading your confusion and gay STDs among others.
That's the whole confusion with queers. It's why when I hit adulthood, I chose not to date anybody because people are so messed up in this world.
These gay blades know they are abominations. They turn into athiest to make themselves feel better and when they don't they are just plain in denial. I have two gay friends... these queers claim on their dying bed, they will repent for their gay sins and be saved. What?... the fool just said, there's nothing wrong with it... it's just as natural as man and woman. Is it?

Queers can't have sex without developing hemorrhoids and anal problems.These gays can't bear children, without ruining the lives and functions of innocent adopted kids (probably mostly African... poor cheap kids) and wasting the eggs of women, who will gladly sell their eggs for the right price. These kids end up gay and spreading this blasphemy throughout generations. They try to get that same-sex marriage crap legalized in NC and we voted against that crap... they should take their gay mess to D.C or further up North and keep themselves in one area. That way when HE comes to destroy the Earth with fire (obviously fed up with the sinning in the world) HE can strike them first and hopefully last.

I'm tired of these gays, trying to force and shove this gay BS down our throats. Trying to compare themselves not having rights to Blacks in the day. Nobody black chose to be black, they were born that way... they didn't bring themselves here to be sold and beaten, the owners did. These punks chose to be gay and chose to live with their rights or lack thereof and should continue to do so. I won't accept it, never will. However, I will tolerate them and befriend them.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

My post was on page 20. Between page 20 and your post above, there isn't a rely to my question about Lot and the Angels.

Actually it was a reply....you're taking one scripture out of context, looking at it from a 21st century perspective, and seeing it literally. It's not a history book. It's designed to convey a theological truth.

 

[Ring 6]

Where are you getting that I said that?

I would say follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic church because I believe she is who she says she is and as such has the authority to speak as God's authority on earth.

Part of that teaching is to love those who sin and help those who struggle with sin as well confess one's own sins.

The Roman Catholic church teaches that heterosexual sex is for procreation. So therefore heterosexual sex NOT for procreation is as wrong as homosexual sex. You chose to couch that in rhetoric.

 

[BelichicksHoodie]

Gayness IS a tragedy.

These gays are so confused. Most of these gay men run around acting all womanly or should I say attempt to act like a "ghetto black woman" (it's true) and claim to be attracted to men, but they are dating some other man that acts like a woman or some abominated queer, who turned himself into a woman through surgery and pills. If you are so attracted to men, why must you act like a chick or be the chick in the relationship? Why are you still having sex with women, spreading your confusion and gay STDs among others.
That's the whole confusion with queers. It's why when I hit adulthood, I chose not to date anybody because people are so messed up in this world.
These gay blades know they are abominations. They turn into athiest to make themselves feel better and when they don't they are just plain in denial. I have two gay friends... these queers claim on their dying bed, they will repent for their gay sins and be saved. What?... the fool just said, there's nothing wrong with it... it's just as natural as man and woman. Is it?

Queers can't have sex without developing hemorrhoids and anal problems.These gays can't bear children, without ruining the lives and functions of innocent adopted kids (probably mostly African... poor cheap kids) and wasting the eggs of women, who will gladly sell their eggs for the right price. These kids end up gay and spreading this blasphemy throughout generations. They try to get that same-sex marriage crap legalized in NC and we voted against that crap... they should take their gay mess to D.C or further up North and keep themselves in one area. That way when HE comes to destroy the Earth with fire (obviously fed up with the sinning in the world) HE can strike them first and hopefully last.

I'm tired of these gays, trying to force and shove this gay BS down our throats. Trying to compare themselves not having rights to Blacks in the day. Nobody black chose to be black, they were born that way... they didn't bring themselves here to be sold and beaten, the owners did. These punks chose to be gay and chose to live with their rights or lack thereof and should continue to do so. I won't accept it, never will. However, I will tolerate them and befriend them.

You don't choose to be gay? When is the moment in your life you chose to like women? I sure as hell cannot tell you the moment I sat down and decided that I was attracted to woman and became aroused by breasts, etc.

The brainwash is strong in this one.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I hardly think that the Catholic church is one of the most corrupt and immoral institutions in the history of mankind given Communism, Nazism, American Slavery, Totalitarianism, etc.

But sure, hyperbole makes an argument sound better. Also, lets forget the billion and billions and billions of acts of charity that the church has done throughour it's history. Better just to focus on the bad apples rather than the whole pie.

When the bad apples make it rotten to the core then yep, i will lump them together. And if you limit it to the 20th century you definitely fare better despite the vast child molestation the church is directly responsible for. When you look at history on the whole there is probably no institution that has wreaked more death and destruction, hint hint, The Crusades....etc...etc.....


Are there good people who are catholics, absolutely, millions and millions of them, and there have been throughout history, however the Church as an institution is a disgrace and has reaped far more misery than any good works could ever absolve them from.



As far as the child molestations went the church dealt with it by deliberately shipping pedophile priests from one diocese to another, and it was one of Cardinal Law's minions (Father Paul Shanley)who founded NAMBL, an organization that promotes pedophelia. The church knew about the scope of the problem they had and spent decades and decades covering it up and movong priest around so they could continue to destroy lives. There is no absolution from this, regardless of what people want to say.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

Never mind all the horrible things that God demands in the Bible. It's a storybook combined with some history. It's a glimpse into how man 2000 years ago dealt with things they did not understand before science was able to allay some of those fears. It is not a way of life that should be emulated.

 

[Kontradiction]

And now the bible thumping yahoos are out in full force. How many of you shave? In your bible, the book of Leviticus specifically, strictly forbids of shaving, cutting the edge of your hair among other things.

...and with them, the yahoos that badmouth everything about the Bible.

As for Sam, I couldn't possibly care less. Not sure why MSM feels the need to blow this up and shove it down people's throats, but it is what it is. As long as he's cool with getting his balls busted in the locker room about it a little on top of the fact that not everyone in the locker room will be okay with his orientation, then I don't see why he can't play. The dude was pretty good in college.

Oh, and this thread should be flushed into the Political forum.

 

[lamafist]

There are evolutionary biology theories on why homosexuality is actually a desirable, selected trait in families. For example, the so-called "gay uncle" hypothesis says that people who themselves do not have children may indirectly increase the prevalence of their family's genes in future generations by increasing the fitness of the offspring of their closest relatives because it's an additional hand to help raise and provide resources for helping those offspring survive to breeding age.

I'm not certain you can appeal to 'Natural Law' here, unless 'Natural Law' is just a euphemism for bigotry.

Recent research has suggested that the "gay uncle" hypothesis has a more direct genetic mechanism behind it -- one of the genes suspected to be associated with homosexuality in men, when it's found in women, appears to result in increased fertility. A phenomenological study has confirmed that there is a statistically significant increase in birth rate among the sisters of gay men.

So if by "natural law" you mean "the laws of nature," i.e. biology, the existence of gay men is on balance highly beneficial to the propagation of the species.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

Actually it was a reply....you're taking one scripture out of context, looking at it from a 21st century perspective, and seeing it literally. It's not a history book. It's designed to convey a theological truth.

And just what perspective could justify turning out two women to be raped, knowingly and deliberately?