Celtics 2024-2025 Discussion

[ViperGTS]

At least the Cs are done it looks like. Still a terrible look to lose to this craptastic Knicks team. Indy in 4 is my pick but I couldn't care less.

Gone- Mazulla, Porzinga, J'Rue, Hauser
Possibly - Brown, Stevens. White but thats doubtful.

Remember, the new ownership group knows nothing about this coaching staff etc. Mazulla has done nothing to prove to them he is the right one for the job. I for one have seen enough, the team was horrible this years playoffs. I look for someone else.

 

[ViperGTS]

They're getting run out of the building. This is painful. I'll never understand the Jekyll-Hyde thing with this "team."

Bad coaching. Bad bad bad. No heart either.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

At least the Cs are done it looks like. Still a terrible look to lose to this craptastic Knicks team. Indy in 4 is my pick but I couldn't care less.

Gone- Mazulla, Porzinga, J'Rue, Hauser
Possibly - Brown, Stevens. White but thats doubtful.

Remember, the new ownership group knows nothing about this coaching staff etc. Mazulla has done nothing to prove to them he is the right one for the job. I for one have seen enough, the team was horrible this years playoffs. I look for someone else.

I'd put the chance Mazzulla is gone at less than 50%. Definitely not zero given how badly this series went, but definitely not in the "likely" camp.

 

[Tunescribe]

Bad coaching. Bad bad bad. No heart either.

They seemed to show plenty of heart two nights ago, but if they're not hitting threes with some regularity things just disintegrate.

The knock on Mazzullah is he's too stubbornly locked into his analytics-based formula. That appears to have worked well enough for him during the regular season. Playoffs, however, are a different animal where the need for creative coaching adjustments gets amplified.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Controversial take: I kinda feel like we don’t deserve to win this game…

 

[ViperGTS]

They seemed to show plenty of heart two nights ago, but if they're not hitting threes with some regularity things just disintegrate.

The knock on Mazzullah is he's too stubbornly locked into his analytics-based formula. That appears to have worked well enough for him during the regular season. Playoffs, however, are a different animal where the need for creative coaching adjustments gets amplified.

Bingo. Business owners want people who can adapt and overcome obstacles put in front of them. Happens daily in the military for instance. Mazulla hasn't shown the ability to do so. Guys not playing how you want, immediate timeout and a sub out. Simple, and if they can't get the message trade their asses.

Interesting that they have met with several top draft choices including Flagg. Sounds to me like something might be brewing and Stevens knows it. I'd do Brown, picks to Dallas for Flagg. Brown would fit them better, is just hitting his prime and Flagg is a better fit with Tatum here and Porzingas gone.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Controversial take: I kinda feel like we don’t deserve to win this game…

About as controversial as saying Mayo didn't deserve another season. . . .

 

[ViperGTS]

About as controversial as saying Mayo didn't deserve another season. . . .

I would have signed Mayo to a 5 year extension at the end of the year. What you talking about?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

It is so Russell Wilson to wear a varsity Knicks jacket and pretend like he’s a fan with fake excitement.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Controversial take: I kinda feel like we don’t deserve to win this game…

LOL

 

[RobertWeathers]

It is so Russell Wilson to wear a varsity Knicks jacket and pretend like he’s a fan with fake excitement.

****: Russell Wilson

 

[raduray]

Out with a whimper. Time for the offseason thread.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Xavier Tillman is still on the team

 

[RobertWeathers]

Xavier Tillman is still on the team

He's on a slow burn

 

[Brewskies]

At least the Cs are done it looks like. Still a terrible look to lose to this craptastic Knicks team. Indy in 4 is my pick but I couldn't care less.o

Gone- Mazulla, Porzinga, J'Rue, Hauser
Possibly - Brown, Stevens. White but thats doubtful.

Remember, the new ownership group knows nothing about this coaching staff etc. Mazulla has done nothing to prove to them he is the right one for the job. I for one have seen enough, the team was horrible this years playoffs. I look for someone else.

The game was pathetic. The Celtics should hang there heads. I think Mazzula should go but I doubt they will do it when he has the Tatum excuse and the Porzingas excuse. I think it is time to rid themselves of Jaylen Brown. There are others that need to go. They have to rebuilt the team around Tatum next year.

 

[maust]

They have to rebuilt the team around Tatum next year.

More likely the year after

 

[Brewskies]

More likely the year after

That makes sense but starting this coming year it is too rid themselves of high priced guy that aren't delivering on the court. START WITH JAYLEN BROWN.

 

[Thelonious]

Yeah, like I said..... The team is soft, in the too-cool-for-school manner. The coach is incompetent. He barely coaches at all, just blithers out effete new-age ******** that belongs on a podcast for yogic fat chicks "struggling in their spiritual journey." Fire up the incense, and do take an adorable little vegan amuse bouche. They "stepped into the darkness" alright, and right onto a steaming pile of dogshit. Embrace the journey, boys.

 

[bresna]

All of this talk of trades... they are on the second apron which means:

• Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron
• Teams cannot sign a player waived during the regular season whose salary was over the $12.2 million midlevel exception
• Salary matching in trades must be within 110 percent, rather than 125 percent for teams not above the apron

No access to the $5 million taxpayer midlevel exception
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated by aggregating the salaries of multiple players
Teams cannot include cash in a trade
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated in a prior year
First-round picks seven years out are frozen (unable to be traded)
A team's first-round pick is moved to the end of the first round if they remain in the second apron for three out of five seasons

I have to wonder who came up with these rules and what they thought they were doing. The way I read it, when a team goes way over the cap, they made it almost impossible to get back under it.

It's like when banks charge someone a huge fee for bouncing a check because they have no money.

 

[Thelonious]

All of this talk of trades... they are on the second apron which means:

• Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron
• Teams cannot sign a player waived during the regular season whose salary was over the $12.2 million midlevel exception
• Salary matching in trades must be within 110 percent, rather than 125 percent for teams not above the apron

No access to the $5 million taxpayer midlevel exception
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated by aggregating the salaries of multiple players
Teams cannot include cash in a trade
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated in a prior year
First-round picks seven years out are frozen (unable to be traded)
A team's first-round pick is moved to the end of the first round if they remain in the second apron for three out of five seasons

I have to wonder who came up with these rules and what they thought they were doing. The way I read it, when a team goes way over the cap, they made it almost impossible to get back under it.

It's like when banks charge someone a huge fee for bouncing a check because they have no money.

I don't think the fundamamental problem has to do with how much money they are spending. They have spent a lot. It has to do with the sorts of players - largely with respect to character, drive, balls - they are hiring, and a coach who has no business being a coach.