Browns wanting Mangena's head already

[Lord_Reginald_III]

browns are the worst team in the nfl right now. part of me wants manena fired before the season ends but the other part of me wants him to stay till the end and just have to take the abuse. **** that a--hole

thats a good point. tears would be priceless... and he's heading down that road. how many press conferences before he fatmeanie snaps?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I understand everyone hates Mangini, but BB would be 0-3 with that crew also. That is one sorry roster.

The last time Cleveland had a playoff team guess who was the coach

 

[letekro]

The last time Cleveland had a playoff team guess who was the coach

Butch Davis, IIRC.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Butch Davis, IIRC.

Damn, you're right. Nevermind

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Well, a team that went past the wild card. HUH? HUH?

 

[MetalBleachers]

After their first 3 games, the 2000 NEP were 0-3, but the combined differential was only 14 points.

We were a lot better after 3 games then, than ManJudas' catastrophe are after 3 games now.

You beat me to it: 2000 was a tough year but they kept games competitive. In other words, the coach gave his team a chance to win almost every week. Only two of the 11 losses by double digits (17 to NYJ and 25 to Detroit... ) 2000 New England Patriots

 

[Rob0729]

The way Mangini is handling the QB thing from day one has been pathetic. He deserves criticism for that. He should have publically named Quinn the QB in the preseason and stuck with him yesterday.

The guy has lost his lockerroom. That isn't good for a coach in his first month of the season.

I don't know if Belichick would have won a game yet with the talent on his roster that the Browns have, but he would have approached his team a lot differently. He wouldn't have pulled Quinn yesterday and he would have made him the starter in the preseason so the team would rally around him. I don't think he would rule with such a heavy hand that he would have 5 grievances already either.

Mangini was an arse with the Jets and it looks like he hadn't learned from his mistakes. Belichick learned from his in Cleveland, but going back to being a DC for 4 years probably gave him time for reflection. I still don't get why the Browns were so high on him that they rushed to get him.

I just hope that the Browns don't can him. As long as he is in the league, he will try to syphon of all of the Jets free agents.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

BB had a few years back as DC to ruminate about his failures in Cleveland and to think how to improve. That said his 'failure' in Cleveland was overblown. Mangini needed some time in the winderness to reflect and repent but as the spawn of Satan he didn't.

 

[Amnorix]

After their first 3 games, the 2000 NEP were 0-3, but the combined differential was only 14 points.

We were a lot better after 3 games then, than ManJudas' catastrophe are after 3 games now.

I hate that fat POS as much as anyone, but he really has no talent to work with. In 2000, BB had guys named Bledsoe, Armstrong (mailing it in by then, however), Law, Bruschi, McGinest, Vinatieri, Milloy and other guys who had formed the core of the Pats SB run in '96 and had been coached by Parcells.

Though I note that at the start of the 2001 season, i believe it was, there was a poll or a writer out there who said the Pats had hte least talented roster in the NFL.

Cleveland's roster is unquestionably a complete disaster. If I were the owner, I wouldn't hire anyone I didn't believe in, and I'd give him at least 3 years.

 

[102 Pat]

You have to feel for Browns fans. To be loyal year after year only to be let down time after time. We should all be thankful our team is competitive and run smoothly for the most part on a yearly basis. I wonder what the Browns owner is thinking right now...

 

[Bostonian1962]

As much as I rooted for Cleveland with Romeo, I root against them with ManLieNee.

 

[FebruaryThirdOhTwo]

I don't get Eric "ManLieNee" at all. Considering the syllabic points, I'd be more inclined to go with ManWeenie. I'm surprised I haven't seen that one pop up.

 

[captain stone]

I hate that fat POS as much as anyone, but he really has no talent to work with. In 2000, BB had guys named Bledsoe, Armstrong (mailing it in by then, however), Law, Bruschi, McGinest, Vinatieri, Milloy and other guys who had formed the core of the Pats SB run in '96 and had been coached by Parcells.

Though I note that at the start of the 2001 season, i believe it was, there was a poll or a writer out there who said the Pats had hte least talented roster in the NFL.

Cleveland's roster is unquestionably a complete disaster. If I were the owner, I wouldn't hire anyone I didn't believe in, and I'd give him at least 3 years.

I agree, though I don't believe that the Browns' roster is as decrepit as their performance thus far suggests. It might be more a manifestation of the complete breakdown in organizational discipline, integrity and ability to maximize the available talent.

My original point was to distinguish btwn. the situations in NE circa 2000 and in Cleveland circa 2009, in rebuttal to Andy Johnson, who claimed that there was not as much of a difference btwn. the two after 3 games. I therefore inferred that all ManJudas needed was more time to turn things around, a premise with which I completely disagree. He is a joke of an NFL HC, who will by this time next year - if not sooner - be an ex-NFL HC.

 

[JoeSixPat]

In addition to losing his locker room with poor personnel management, stupid fines, needless bus trips to Hartford, counting waterbottles, going back on his word of showing support and security for a needlessly protracted QB competition, Mangini's being hit with X and O criticisms - like opting for a Field Goal when down by 27 points in the 4th quarter.

Ohio.com - Mangini's mess worse than last season
Anderson took over in the second half and threw a poor interception, then guided a drive that ended at the Ravens' 12-yard line.

Coach Eric Mangini chose to kick a field goal, down 27-0. Shades of the outcry when Romeo Crennel kicked a field goal in the opener a year ago against Dallas, down 28-7.

Mangini used this reasoning for the decision: There were 10 or 12 minutes left, and three touchdowns and three 2-point conversions ties the game.

He forgot to mention the part about monkeys flying in from Oz to carry away Ray Lewis.

Frankly I'm enjoying watching Mangini flounder. At first I felt bad for Browns fans but most of them were so clueless and were blindly supportive of Mangini I find it tough to feel sympathy now.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

JSP: Thanks for sharing that. The flying monkeys quote is priceless.

 

[JoeSixPat]

JSP: Thanks for sharing that. The flying monkeys quote is priceless.

Yup - had to share that one.

There's a lot of that out there... another reporter stating that the Browns players have all quit on Mangini. Then the reporter posturing that players should NEVER quit on a coach.

I disagree. If you have a coach as clueless and in over his head as Mangini I think the best thing the players could do is anything they can to get that coach out of there.

Players don't always know best in that situation... but in this case they'd be right

The only downside is that Randy Lerner probably would waste no time in hiring a soon-to-be-fired Jim Zorn as apparently Lerner's convinced that the best NFL coaches are the ones fired by their previous organizations who for whom no other NFL teams have any interest.

Quitting seems possible as Browns join NFL's worst - NFL - CBSSports.com Football

Maybe Mangini has given his players something else. Maybe he has given them every reason to quit on him. Reportedly, almost 10 percent of Mangini's active roster -- five players out of 53 -- are in the process of filing grievances against their horse's ass of a coach who has, for example, fined a player $1,701 for not paying for a $3 bottle of water out of a hotel fridge.

Mangini is a power-drunk bully who derives pleasure from little-man moves like hiding the identity of his starting quarterback this preseason, like hiding the injury of Brett Favre last season in New York, and like fining a player $1,701 for drinking a $3 bottle of water in his hotel room and then forgetting to tell the front desk about it.

Mangini is a smart guy, but he undermines his intelligence by being such an ass.

If I'm a player in this league, and I become a free agent, I'm telling my agent to consider offers from 31 teams: Everyone in the league except for any organization dumb enough to employ that fool Eric Mangini as head coach. And if I'm thinking that way, you can believe there are players or agents who think that way.

What I'm saying is this: Cleveland is a train wreck. Cleveland was better off with mediocre Romeo Crennel than it is with malignant Eric Mangini. The Browns' front office and ownership can pretend otherwise, but that's make-believe. That can't be sincere.

 

[DaBruinz]

Mangini now had 5 grievances filed with the NFLPA on behalf of Browns players.

Mangini has handled the situation with the Browns badly from DAY 1. During the 1st week he was there, he had wall paintings of some of their greatest players painted over. Personally, if I was the owner, I'd have gone ballistic at that.

I also have to disagree that the Browns roster has no talent because of Mangini. They actually have a lot of talent. Guys like Edwards, Cribbs, Elam, Furrey, Jackson, Wimbley, Steinbach, Wright, just to name a few. The problem is that Mangini has NO personality and treats his players like garbage. Belichick may have the facade of not caring, but we've all seen that its a facade. That he doesn't use it with the players, but he does use it with the media. And that is Mangini's problem. He uses being an ***** with everyone.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

Because of the way it went down in New York, it was bizarre that another NFL franchise hired this joke immediately after he was fired.

 

[JoeSixPat]

For the once proud Browns organization I kindof hope Ashton Kutchner runs out of the locker room next week and tells everyone they got punked - then revealing a new, real, head coach.

 

[bostonia3333]

It's almost as if the Browns hierarchy knew in advance that they were going to be terrible this year so they decided to hire the worst coach possible in order to deflect the blame.