BOB 'Completely Reworking' Pats Offense

[borg]

I think the Levi thing might also be so that if a team wants him and sees him falling, they might be willing to trade up with NE, thereby allowing NE to trade down, which is what they really want.

 

[jboston19]

The old OC is employed again.

 

[archstanton543]

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[Pats1971]

*without Brady, as mentioned in my posts previously. Kind of a big piece missing

They were dynamic, as were all offenses led by Brady...Now do his offenses without Brady. Ill wait

Amazing how that dynamic offense went to **** after he left NE and Brady.

 

[Pats1971]

Maybe being historically great at Alabama and in his rookie season?

Yeah never has there been a QB do well in college and not do well in the NFL. Lets not go crazy about his rookie year. He was very protected the pats run game and defense pretty much willed them to a decent 10-7 record and the made the playoffs because of an extra game and then proceeded to get their doors blown off in the first game. There are players that come in the NFL, and you know pretty quick that they have something special, it might not always be physical, but players do well around them, and the teams win with them....Most Qb's dont have that. I have not seen that with Mac, I have seen a guy who needs excuses and a lot around him to do decent. His college days do not mean ****.

 

[DaBruinz]

*without Brady, as mentioned in my posts previously. Kind of a big piece missing

They were dynamic, as were all offenses led by Brady...Now do his offenses without Brady. Ill wait

AHH YES. The typical jack ass response. Get shown to be 100% wrong in your claim (Your claim was that O'Brien wasn't dynamic at all) and then move the Goal Posts.. BTW, they were DYNAMIC because of the play calling. Not because of the execution.

Go look at the Play-calling at Penn St, The Texans, and at Alabama, then come talk to me. You're the ignorant one here.
Your claim that B'OB's offense were mediocre w/o Brady is baseless and not supported by FACT.

 

[Kasmir]

Yeah never has there been a QB do well in college and not do well in the NFL. Lets not go crazy about his rookie year. He was very protected the pats run game and defense pretty much willed them to a decent 10-7 record and the made the playoffs because of an extra game and then proceeded to get their doors blown off in the first game. There are players that come in the NFL, and you know pretty quick that they have something special, it might not always be physical, but players do well around them, and the teams win with them....Most Qb's dont have that. I have not seen that with Mac, I have seen a guy who needs excuses and a lot around him to do decent. His college days do not mean ****.

You asked why not everyone has given up on Mac as you have. I pointed out reasons that others might still be holding out hope for Mac.

Yeah, there has never been a QB do poorly in his first two years and later become good. Right?

 

[Tunescribe]

Amazing how that dynamic offense went to **** after he left NE and Brady.

Yeah never has there been a QB do well in college and not do well in the NFL. Lets not go crazy about his rookie year. He was very protected the pats run game and defense pretty much willed them to a decent 10-7 record and the made the playoffs because of an extra game and then proceeded to get their doors blown off in the first game. There are players that come in the NFL, and you know pretty quick that they have something special, it might not always be physical, but players do well around them, and the teams win with them....Most Qb's dont have that. I have not seen that with Mac, I have seen a guy who needs excuses and a lot around him to do decent. His college days do not mean ****.

 

[All3Phases]

AHH YES. The typical jack ass response. Get shown to be 100% wrong in your claim (Your claim was that O'Brien wasn't dynamic at all) and then move the Goal Posts.. BTW, they were DYNAMIC because of the play calling. Not because of the execution.

You’re right, the great offenses were because of the play caller, not the guy with the ball in his hands every play. It’s worked out so well when Josh, Charlie, and BOB left Brady and called plays elsewhere! They must’ve forgotten how to call plays!

Go look at the Play-calling at Penn St, The Texans, and at Alabama, then come talk to me. You're the ignorant one here.
Your claim that B'OB's offense were mediocre w/o Brady is baseless and not supported by FACT.

It is based in fact, 14th, 21st, 28th, 17th, 11th, 14th, then fired after 4 games. Guess what those are…the Texans offensive rankings while he was the coach. You stoop to college because it’s all you have, and know it means nothing

 

[rochrist]

You’re right, the great offenses were because of the play caller, not the guy with the ball in his hands every play. It’s worked out so well when Josh, Charlie, and BOB left Brady and called plays elsewhere! They must’ve forgotten how to call plays!

It is based in fact, 14th, 21st, 28th, 17th, 11th, 14th, then fired after 4 games. Guess what those are…the Texans offensive rankings while he was the coach. You stoop to college because it’s all you have, and know it means nothing

 

[DaBruinz]

You’re right, the great offenses were because of the play caller, not the guy with the ball in his hands every play. It’s worked out so well when Josh, Charlie, and BOB left Brady and called plays elsewhere! They must’ve forgotten how to call plays!

That isn't what I said and you claiming it doesn't make it so.
YOU claimed that B'OB's offenses arent' dynamic (a term you don't f'in understand). I showed that they were, in fact, dynamic. Then you change your claim to something else, beating your chest as if you've made some great response. And no, you're claiming something was said that wasn't actually stated. Who called the plays into Brady from 2009-2011? OH yeah. B'OB. It was B'OB's dynamic play-calling and

It is based in fact, 14th, 21st, 28th, 17th, 11th, 14th, then fired after 4 games. Guess what those are…the Texans offensive rankings while he was the coach. You stoop to college because it’s all you have, and know it means nothing

Nope. It's not, actually based in facts. It's based on you being a Fantasy football jackass who doesn't understand the game of football. You claim that being 14th doesn't show it was dynamic. The only problem with your claim is that you ignore where the Texans were the year before. They were 31st.. Hmm 31st to 14th.. Big jump for a 1st year coach. Unlike YOU, I actually watched some Texans games and his play-calling was excellent. The players, not so much. If you want to fault B'OB for being a crappy GM go ahead, he was.

Another thing. You're ignoring that in 2015, Godsey was actually named the OC. He was fired after 3 seasons.. The 3 seasons where the team was 21st 28th, 17th. O'Brien took over for the 2018 season and was responsible for them being 11th. Then Tim Kelly was named OC. He was responsible for the dip back to 14th. You throwing up the years that B'OB wasn't the OC is called a RED HERRING.

Your claim that college doesn't matter is what means nothing. If anything, it means MORE because their player turnover is even higher than PROs. Not to mention that he actually was the one calling the plays there.

But I understand how those facts are something you want to ignore. You can't admit to being wrong. That's how trolls like you are.

 

[All3Phases]

That isn't what I said and you claiming it doesn't make it so.
YOU claimed that B'OB's offenses arent' dynamic (a term you don't f'in understand). I showed that they were, in fact, dynamic. Then you change your claim to something else, beating your chest as if you've made some great response. And no, you're claiming something was said that wasn't actually stated. Who called the plays into Brady from 2009-2011? OH yeah. B'OB. It was B'OB's dynamic play-calling and

Nope. It's not, actually based in facts. It's based on you being a Fantasy football jackass who doesn't understand the game of football. You claim that being 14th doesn't show it was dynamic. The only problem with your claim is that you ignore where the Texans were the year before. They were 31st.. Hmm 31st to 14th.. Big jump for a 1st year coach. Unlike YOU, I actually watched some Texans games and his play-calling was excellent. The players, not so much. If you want to fault B'OB for being a crappy GM go ahead, he was.

Another thing. You're ignoring that in 2015, Godsey was actually named the OC. He was fired after 3 seasons.. The 3 seasons where the team was 21st 28th, 17th. O'Brien took over for the 2018 season and was responsible for them being 11th. Then Tim Kelly was named OC. He was responsible for the dip back to 14th. You throwing up the years that B'OB wasn't the OC is called a RED HERRING.

Your claim that college doesn't matter is what means nothing. If anything, it means MORE because their player turnover is even higher than PROs. Not to mention that he actually was the one calling the plays there.

But I understand how those facts are something you want to ignore. You can't admit to being wrong. That's how trolls like you are.

This is a ton of rambling to admit that the only professional offenses that were great under Obrien has been with Brady.

 

[DaBruinz]

This is a ton of rambling to admit that the only professional offenses that were great under Obrien has been with Brady.

That isn't what was said in any way, shape or for.
The word DYNAMIC does not mean "GREAT" or "GREATNESS". Maybe you should learn what words mean before you use them since it's clear as day you don't have a clue what "DYNAMIC" means.

I'm going to take pity on you. Here is what "DYNAMIC" means:

Definition of DYNAMIC

marked by usually continuous and productive activity or change; energetic, forceful; of or relating to physical force or energy… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

dynamic

1. having a lot of ideas and enthusiasm: 2. continuously changing or…

dictionary.cambridge.org

So, yet another mistake for you. Dynamic does not mean GREAT or GREATNESS.

It's plain to everyone you have no idea what you're talking about.

Have a nice night.

 

[All3Phases]

That isn't what was said in any way, shape or for.
The word DYNAMIC does not mean "GREAT" or "GREATNESS". Maybe you should learn what words mean before you use them since it's clear as day you don't have a clue what "DYNAMIC" means.

I'm going to take pity on you. Here is what "DYNAMIC" means:

Definition of DYNAMIC

marked by usually continuous and productive activity or change; energetic, forceful; of or relating to physical force or energy… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

dynamic

1. having a lot of ideas and enthusiasm: 2. continuously changing or…

dictionary.cambridge.org

So, yet another mistake for you. Dynamic does not mean GREAT or GREATNESS.

It's plain to everyone you have no idea what you're talking about.

Have a nice night.

You changed my mind, I’ll clarify for you. He’s only coached mediocre offenses if Brady wasn’t carrying him

 

[RIpats88]

My god, now people are reading into BOB's "clean slate" comment. All hes saying is this is a new season, new offense. its a chance for everyone to start fresh after the disaster of last season.

The "anyone but mac" crowd is really insufferable. imagine putting all that effort and hate into a kid who is only in his 3rd year.

 

[RIpats88]

You changed my mind, I’ll clarify for you. He’s only coached mediocre offenses if Brady wasn’t carrying him

Whats your point? so has bill unfortunately....so BOB sucks?

We are going from one of the worst NFL offenses/coaches to someone who has coached at all levels. That should be a plus in itself.

 

[DaBruinz]

Whats your point? so has bill unfortunately....so BOB sucks?

We are going from one of the worst NFL offenses/coaches to someone who has coached at all levels. That should be a plus in itself.

His point is that B'OB is only a mediocre OC who isn't dynamic and we shouldn't expect much of an improvement in the offense.

Despite being shown that B'OB is actually a very good OC, the guy refuses to admit to being wrong. In fact, he claims to never make mistakes so we're just supposed to take him at his word.

 

[moosekill]

Maybe being historically great at Alabama and in his rookie season?

And Zappe was historically great his senior year in college had 21/2 great games as a rookie and struggled in his third when he came off the bench to cover for Mac who was playing like complete dog crap. Doesn’t mean much for this year.

 

[RIpats88]

His point is that B'OB is only a mediocre OC who isn't dynamic and we shouldn't expect much of an improvement in the offense.

Despite being shown that B'OB is actually a very good OC, the guy refuses to admit to being wrong. In fact, he claims to never make mistakes so we're just supposed to take him at his word.

Kind of a ridiculous argument for him. Either way even if BOB is mediocre. He's an actual OC with actual offensive experience vs the two bozos winging it last year.

That alone should show improvement

 

[RIpats88]

And Zappe was historically great his senior year in college had 21/2 great games as a rookie and struggled in his third when he came off the bench to cover for Mac who was playing like complete dog crap. Doesn’t mean much for this year.

The point is they barely ran an NFL offense last year. So what is more likely. Mac returns to his 2021 form when he had a real OC or 2022 is the norm when he had a DC and a special teams coach running barely a pop warner offense.

I like zappe but the revisionist history on his 3 game stint is really bad. He had one great game against Cleveland. His game against the Packers was OK given the circumstances. They wouldn't even let him pass to get 10 yards for a field goal. And in Detroit he had 187 yards 1 TD and was a long for the ride. Certainly not "great" either. And a bad game against the bears where he supposedly split reps in practice with Mac