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BaconGrundleCandy

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Saf class is pretty nice overall. Not top heavy in terms of first rounders but you'll have 6-7 top 100 picks. You can see the change or evolution if you will in the position. Every prospect is a hybrid with ball skills that can cover. LB & S are becoming interchangeable in a lot of ways.

As always we're looking for a needle in a haystack when you consider what DMC does for us. His IQ, leadership, versatility, ball skills, range and on and on. If we're playing single high 45-50% of the time we need a special player.

How I graded the position in the past ...
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Kyle Hamilton is an athletic freak who comes from an athletic family. Usually you're describing "mismatches" and "chess pieces" on the offensive side of ball but Hamilton's size and versatility will give a defenses a "weapon" to counter today's offensive onslaught from every direction.

Unique size with plus length. Just built different like Derrick Henry, Sean Taylor, DK Metcalf etc .. Tall, LB frame with long arms. Well proportioned thick cut-up body. Only 21 years old in March. Definitely not in his final form here.

Plus instincts inside the box as a force player. He'll knife through bigger, slower linemen like they're in slow motion. He'll shutdown stretch plays, great feel for any wide runs. Patience and IQ work together here. Reads steps and movements. Keys and reads are processed and executed with ease at times. Natural feel for reading the backfield and what's coming from it. At times he'll bite on the occasional misdirection - RPO/Screen but overall very smart, intelligent player. He'll sniff out underneath stuff. Anything that takes time to come together is a no-no against him. Cuts off flat area, reliable out there against almost anyone. Quick processing and freaky skill set to execute the task at hand. Football IQ & Instincts are NFL ready and then some. Patience too.

Eyes help shutdown the shallow zone behind the LB's. Could be a tick faster in zone coverage. At times he'll find himself depending on his athleticism a bit too much but his eyes and instincts make it very difficult to get anything past him when it's in front of him. Smart player. His anticipation is also something. Very adapt player when he's in zone and things break down. Passes off routes with no mess. Smooth handling mesh.

Plus in man coverage. Especially with bigger targets. His route recognition and freaky skill-set allow his to shadow bigger targets. Smaller shifty players will give him some problems but he's able to cover bigger WR & TE from the slot. Comfortable and effective using outside leverage funneling stuff inside. Love the way he plays, physical, doesn't mind putting his hands in you. That plus subtle body positioning redirects routes. That's why he's for comfortable dealing with guys around his own size.

Versatile doesn't quite doesn't do him justice. Emlos - contain on los, single high, blitzing, nickel. He can really do it all from the saf position and do it well. Handles himself with bigger guys, good hand placement and strength.

His size, plus range and tackling ability are special. He hits like a pickup truck. And able to cover 30-40 years in a few strides. Long powerful strides and speed give him the ability to cut off easy angles and would be paths to the end zone. Power forward that glides down the court in 10 steps. Fearless hitter that will KO you and set a tone. He's taken a few souls and brings all of 220lb with him when he arrives. Reliable tackling ability in space.

Able to redirect routes in space. Long arms and size take away throwing lanes. Body control and balance allow for adjustments in air and on the ground in space.

Has to play with a little more patience overall. Can get too hyped at times. Especially when contact is involved.

Knee injury as JR

Inconsistent this past year despite having an unbelievable skill-set.


Not often prospects like Hamilton come along. His size, speed, physicality, versatility and IQ just don't come in a 6'4/220 package that can move in a short area. He's gifted in a lot of areas and physical as hell. He's able to stay on the field all 4 downs and make an impact from day one. Doesn't matter the scheme, he's a plug & play hybrid that will help on all three levels. Hamilton is a special prospect that will play his best ball in the pros imo. Mentioned he'll be 21 in March, his body and mind should improve greatly over the next 2-3 years. Hopefully he stays healthy bc he could be one of those players everyone enjoys watching regardless of team.

Daxton Hill is a guy every Pats fan should be familiar with. Michigan man that does some of his best work in single high, from the slot and intermediate part of field. Smart player that handled Brown's scheme man/match, zone, single high, box/LB, nickel ... He can handle a lot and looks good doing it.

Plus athlete that has NFL speed and short area quicks. Smooth COD and transitions. Got caught a few times in the middle of transitioning but he's fluid and movements stand out on the field full of athletes. Stand out closing speed.

Range to cut off the field in single high or can chase you down in pursuit.

Needs to bulk up some but he thinks he's a boss out there and will throw his body around with no problem.

Another 4 down physical player with plus versatility. Just see DMC when I see him. Not sure if he can take over that role but he's a player.



Tier 1A
Kyle Hamilton - 6'4/220 - Notre Dame




Tier 1B
Jaquan Brisker - 6'1/215 - PSU


Daxton Hill - 6'/190 - Michigan

Yusuf Corker - 6'/200 - Kentucky

Leon O’Neal Jr - 6'1/210 - TAMU

Lewis Cine - 6'1/200 - Georgia

Verone McKinley - 5'11/200 - Oregon

Bryan Cook - 6'1/210 - Cincinnati


Nick Cross - 6'1/215 - Maryland

Kolby Harvell-Peel - 6'/210 - OSU

Bubba Bolden - 6'3/205 - Miami

Jaylan Foster - 5'10/195 - South Carolina


Tier 2A
Tre Sterling - 6'/200 - OSU

Tariq Carpenter - 6'3/225 - Georgia Tech

Smoke Monday - 6'3/200 - Auburn

Sterling Weatherford - 6'4/220 - Miami (OH)

Brad Hawkins - 6'1/220 - Michigan

JT Woods - 6'2/195 - Baylor

Greg Eisworth - 6'/205 - Iowa St

Joey Blount - 6'1/205 - Virginia

Scott Nelson - 6'2/205 - Wisconsin

Deontai Williams - 6'1/205 - Nebraska

Qwuantrezz Knight - 6'/195 - UCLA


Tier 2B
Ja'Von Hicks - 6'2/205 - Cincinnati

Evan Fields - 6'1/195 - ASU

Markquese Bell - 6'3/205 - Florida A&M

Jalen Pitre - 6'/215 - Baylor

Devonte Robinson - 6'2/215 - Kentucky

Reed Blankenship - 6'1/205 - MTSU

Qwynnterrio Cole - 6'3/190 - Louisville

Quentin Lake - 6'1/195 - UCLA

TJ Carter - 5'11/190 - TCU

Alonzo Addae - 5'10/190 - West Virginia

Tae Daley - 6'/200 - Virginia Tech

Nolan Turner - 6'1/205 - Clemson

Jay Lenard - 6'1/210 - San Jose St


Tier 3
Mike Brown - 6'1/220 - Miami (OH)

Percy Butler - 6'/190 - UL-Lafayette

Nazeeh Johnson - 6'1/200 - Marshall

Chamarri Conner - 6'/210 - Virginia Tech

Tycen Anderson - 6'2/205 - Toledo

Marcelino McCrary-Ball - 6'/225 - Indiana

Larry Brooks - 6'/200 - Tulane

Derrion Rakestraw - 6'2/200 - Tulane

CJ Morgan - 6'/200 - Mississippi St

Amari Carter - 6'1/200 - Miami

Jahron McPherson - 6'1/200 - Kansas St


Tier 4
Delarrin Turner-Yell - 5'10/195 - OK

Troy Lafeged - 5'11/195 - Texas St

Skyler Thomas - 5'9/185 - Liberty
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
2021 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
Score anybody loses their mind, and posts something good about a certain auburn qb, I want to add the following:

“Saturday’s burnt toast becomes smoke Monday.”
 

JerseyShore99

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
Have a feeling Hamilton will be a better prospect than NFLer

Cine is my top FS prospect this year

I also like Nolan Turner a ton and Monday as a SS

Brisker is such an interesting prospect

Anyone else view Nakobe Dean as a SS?
 

miloofcroton

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
Very solid S class, although I don't like the biggest name.
I don't like Hamilton or O'Neal. I'm generally not a fan of safeties with limited movement skills and scheme limitations.
I like Brisker, Daxton Hill, and Bubba Bolden (partly because I think he goes 4-6th round, where he's more valuable) a lot.
I think Cine and McKinley will be solid.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

#1 Mac Jones fan
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Very solid S class, although I don't like the biggest name.
I don't like Hamilton or O'Neal. I'm generally not a fan of safeties with limited movement skills and scheme limitations.
I like Brisker, Daxton Hill, and Bubba Bolden (partly because I think he goes 4-6th round, where he's more valuable) a lot.
I think Cine and McKinley will be solid.
I'll be slightly lower on Hamilton than consensus.
 

DaBruinz

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Hey @BaconGrundleCandy - You see this:

43.5" vertical and an 11'1" broad jump. Add that to his 4.39 - 40 at the combine



Damarri Mathis – 5-foot-11 1/8, 198 pounds, 8 1/8 inch hands, 31 4/8 inch arm length, 77 1/8 inch wingspan
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 43 1/2 inches
Long Jump: 11.1 feet
40 Time: Did not run
Three Cone: N/A
Shuttle: 4.18

I think it's disappointing that Mathis didn't run a 3 cone..


I'm curious if this numbers put him on your radar...
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Hey @BaconGrundleCandy - You see this:

43.5" vertical and an 11'1" broad jump. Add that to his 4.39 - 40 at the combine



Damarri Mathis – 5-foot-11 1/8, 198 pounds, 8 1/8 inch hands, 31 4/8 inch arm length, 77 1/8 inch wingspan
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 43 1/2 inches
Long Jump: 11.1 feet
40 Time: Did not run
Three Cone: N/A
Shuttle: 4.18

I think it's disappointing that Mathis didn't run a 3 cone..


I'm curious if this numbers put him on your radar...
Familiar but at work. Haven't seen a vert like that in quite some time. I'll edit this with more thoughts when I can
 

Hades

Rookie
Surprised not to see Kerby Joseph on this list, seems to have all the skills and a real chance to go on day 2
 

State

In the Starting Line-Up
Here’s a write up on Tycen Anderson from Kent State:


If nothing else he’s a Matthew Slater-type special teams ace, a hybrid safety in the box player and a backup safety, and a good character guy so Belichick can have his tingle go up his leg.

The point this shows is Bacon is right, a quality safety can be had in this draft in lower rounds than normal.
 

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