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BaconGrundleCandy

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What a rush class! Throwback size with future speed. Loaded, top heavy and deep. 2-5 1st round potential prospects and another 3-4 that look top 40-50 worthy. Outstanding size-versatility, some of these guys are so big, once they really figure out what they're doing you'll have fun moving them around. During my rough look I saw a ton of size, speed and traits in the front of the class. Hands, worker-fighter mentality with lots of upside playing the run-misdirection. A few of these guys could be great all-around NFL players.

I remember waiting on KT to decide schools like it was yesterday and next year he'll be a top 5-10 pick along with DeMarvin Leal. These two are absolutely insane prospects. Then you have Karlaftis, Harrison, Enagbare and a bunch of other big boys with tremendous gifts. This might be the best class of the entire draft next year.

How I graded the position. We all have our strengths .. and weaknesses lol. Actually not that bad but definitely could be better.

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Tier 1
DeMarvin Leal - 6'4/290 - TAMU

Kayvon Thibodeaux - 6'5/250 - Oregon

George Karlaftis - 6'4/270 - Purdue

Zach Harrison - 6'6/265 - OSU


Tier 2A
Boye Mafe - 6'4/265 - Minnesota

Brenton Cox - 6'3/250 - Florida

Kingsley Enagbare - 6'4/270 - South Carolina

Drake Jackson - 6'4/255 - USC

Aidan Hutchinson - 6'6/280 - Michigan

Isaiah Thomas - 6'5/270 - Oklahoma

Chris Allen - 6'4/250 - Alabama

Jeffrey Gunter - 6'4/260 - Coastal Carolina

Zion Tupuola-Fetui - 6'3/280 - Washington

Isaiah Thomas - 6'5/270 - Oklahoma

Trajan Jeffcoat - 6'3/265 - Missouri

Myjai Sanders - 6'5/260 - Cincinnati

Jordan Wright - 6'5/240 - Kentucky

Nik Bonitto - 6'3/240 - Oklahoma

Zachary Carter - 6'4/290 - Florida

Xavier Thomas - 6'2/270 - Clemson

Nolan Smith - 6'3/235 - Georgia

Deandre Johnson - 6'3/255 - Miami


Tier 2B
Trace Ford - 6'4/250 - Oklahoma St

Khris Bogle - Florida / 6'4", 240

Terrance Lang - 6'7/285 - Colorado

Sam Williams - 6'4/265 - Ole Miss

K.J. Henry - 6'4/255 - Clemson

Cameron Thomas - 6'5/270 - San Diego St

LaBryan Ray - 6'5/295 - Alabama

Mike Tverdov - 6'4/255 - Rutgers

Ali Gaye - 6'6/265 - LSU

Tyreke Smith - 6'4/270 - OSU

Ochaun Mathis - 6'4/250 - TCU

Jalen Redmond - 6'3/270 - Oklahoma

Colby Wooden - 6'5/280 - Auburn

Andrew Chatfield - 6'2/250 - Florida

Jeremiah Moon - 6'5/250 - Florida

Tier 3
Josh Paschal - 6'3/280 - Kentucky

Tyler Lacy - 6'4/285 - Oklahoma St

Terrell Dawkins - 6'5/255 - NC State

Richard Jibunor - 6'3/230 - Troy

Tyler Johnson - 6'4/285 - ASU

Eric Gregory - 6'4/280 - Arkansas

Tomon Fox - 6'3/260 - North Carolina

Justin Eboigbe - 6'5/285 - Alabama

Jordan Strachan - 6'4/225 - South Carolina

Big Kat Bryant - 6'5/250 - UCF

Moro Ojomo - 6'3/275 - Texas

Ali Fayad - 6'2/255 - Western Michigan

Adetomiwa Adebawore - 6'2/265 - Northwestern

Tyree Johnson - 6'4/250 - TAMU

Byron Young - 6'3/290 - Alabama

Adam Anderson - 6'5/225 - Georgia

Isaiah McGuire - 6'5/280 - Missouri

Keion White - 6'4/265 - Georgia Tech

Jordan Domineck - 6'3/250 - Georgia Tech

Willie Taylor - 6'4/230 - Washington St

Kivon Bennett - 6'2/245 -Tenn - Transfer Portal

Will McDonald - 6'4/230 - Iowa St

TreShaun Clark - 6'1/235 - Liberty

Randy Wade - 6'2/275 - Georgia-Southern

Eku Leota - 6'4/250 - Auburn


Tier 4
John Morgan - 6'2/250 - Pittsburgh

Durrell Johnson - 6'4/235 - Liberty

Tyrus Wheat - 6'2/260 - Miss St

Aaron Sterling - 6'1/250 - South Carolina

Charles Wiley - 6'2/245 - UTSA

Curtis Ryans - 6'5/265 - Georgia Tech - Transfer Portal

Justin Foster - 6'2/275 - Clemson

DeAngelo Malone - 6'4/230 - Western Kentucky

Michael Fletcher - 6'6/250 - MSU

Amare Barno - 6'6/235 - VA Tech

Jacub Panasiuk - 6'4/250 - MSU

Juwuan Jones - 6'3/270 - Western Kentucky

LaQuan Johnson - 6'2/260 - Central Michigan

Willie Baker - 6'3/245 - LA-Tech

Derick Hall - 6'3/240 - Auburn

Solomon Byrd - 6'4/245 - Wyoming

Cade Hall - 6'2/260 - San Jose St

Deslin Alexandre - 6'4/270 - Pittsburgh

Ryder Anderson - 6'6/275 - Indiana

Isaiah Foskey - 6'4/260 - Notre Dame

Demetrius Taylor - 6'1/295 - App St

Marcus Stripling - 6'3/250 - Oklahoma

Jaylen Joyner - 6'3/270 - FAU

Morris Joseph - 6'2/275 - Memphis

Praise Amaewhule - 6'3/245 - UTEP

Jalen Harris - 6'5/260 - Arizona

Keshawn Banks - 6'4/275 - San Diego St

Kameron Butler - 6'3/250 - Miami - Ohio

Trumane Bell - 6'2/260 - UTSA

Matt Henningsen - 6'3/285 - Wisconsin

Mitchell Agude - 6'4/245 - UCLA

Daniel Joseph - 6'3/265 - NC State

Viliami Fehoko - 6'4/230 - San Jose St

Tomari Fox - 6'1/280 - North Carolina

Ryan Bowman - 6'/280 - Washington

Arnold Ebiketie - 6'4/240 - PSU

David Anenih - 6'3/240 -Houston

Randy Charlton - 6'3/260 - Miss St

Owen Carney - 6'3/260 - Illinois

Hardrick Willis - 6'3/245 - Georgia St

Jacques Turner - 6'1/245 - Louisville

Joseph Dorceus - 6'/280 Memphis - Transfer Portal

David Perales - 6'3/240 - Fresno St

Elorm Lumor - 6'3/240 - Rutgers - Transfer Portal

Kwami Jones - 6'3/250 - Fresno St

Shane Irwin - 6'3/255 - Boise St

Michael Matus - 6'2/260 - ASU

Esezi Otomewo - 6'6/285 -Minnesota

Maximilian Roberts - 6'1/250 - BC

Markees Watts - 6'/220 - Charlotte
 
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BaconGrundleCandy

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DeMarvin "the real deal" Leal could be a monster. Dude is almost 300lbs..

++ hands

Wins with power & finesse. Tools for days.

+ run potential head on, chase & pursuit, keeping his outside shoulder clean.

heavy hands but check out the euro step. Almost looks like the master Robert Quinn.

Extremely quick & fluid as the tweet suggests but the hand usage allows him to cross face and create space off his hesi. Finishes off with the "ice pick" which is key to the spin. Finish the rep, finish the man and it's like a drag hand in a sense of knowing how much space you have.



Look at the power
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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KT is just prototype. Speed, quicks & size. He's from the future. He's already a big boy around 250 but he's young. What's really impressive is his ability to play through contact. He has an unreal speed rush, stride length & power but he can power through, ricochet and use his hands to soften the edge. He could be special.




 

reamer

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DeMarvin "the real deal" Leal could be a monster. Dude is almost 300lbs..

++ hands

Wins with power & finesse. Tools for days.

+ run potential head on, chase & pursuit, keeping his outside shoulder clean.

heavy hands but check out the euro step. Almost looks like the master Robert Quinn.

Extremely quick & fluid as the tweet suggests but the hand usage allows him to cross face and create space off his hesi. Finishes off with the "ice pick" which is key to the spin. Finish the rep, finish the man and it's like a drag hand in a sense of knowing how much space you have.



Look at the power

Barmore and Leal would be fun chess pieces who could play inside/outside depending on the front and formation. Intriguing!
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Barmore and Leal would be fun chess pieces who could play inside/outside depending on the front and formation. Intriguing!
Unless we bomb or get super lucky I'm thinking he's a top 10 pick? I really like Karlaftis. He's a monster, only 19 I believe. Check him and a few others in the first few tiers. So many intriguing guys
 

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I honestly cannot believe Thibodeaux will be coming out next year. BGC, I remember you and I talking about him a lot because I was praying he’d go to Florida. That’s a man amongst boys. Unless he gets injured or regresses, he should be a top 5 pick. Hell, he may go #1 overall.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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I honestly cannot believe Thibodeaux will be coming out next year. BGC, I remember you and I talking about him a lot because I was praying he’d go to Florida. That’s a man amongst boys. Unless he gets injured or regresses, he should be a top 5 pick. Hell, he may go #1 overall.
It's crazy, the Covid year might have hurt some but also helped guys like him. Football is football but I have to believe guys suffered less wear n tear.

Marvin Harrison's kid and Tua's younger bro will be next lol. Time flies if you work. Lift my head up and it's a year later.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Look at the heavy hands and power. Good placement, finds hands and finishes with the arm over/swim.

This could be a lot tighter. You want to set up half man before attempting the spin. You can see that's what he's going for but rushes it, still successful.

Lol looks like he has a little power in these paws. Only 18 here I believe

One arm is longer than two

Almost nothing to grab onto. Nice job utilizing length and reducing the surface.

Man he's fun. What a big boy.
 

patsfanfromoversea

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Barmore and Leal would be fun chess pieces who could play inside/outside depending on the front and formation. Intriguing!
Hutchinson was my early binky last year bc i watched a lot Michigan and he Puts up a relentless Motor and effort on every fecking play. He has a great size and length. His injury sucked. I hope he has a good year I believe he will be a Senior. He could be a future DE on the Opposite side of Judon. All in All there are some interesting edge rushers. Harrison from OSU and Jackson from USC could have a big role this year.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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I honestly cannot believe Thibodeaux will be coming out next year. BGC, I remember you and I talking about him a lot because I was praying he’d go to Florida. That’s a man amongst boys. Unless he gets injured or regresses, he should be a top 5 pick. Hell, he may go #1 overall.
Really hoping Barmore pans out. This group is nuts. KT might go #1 overall but there's so much talent here.

 

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Hutchinson was my early binky last year bc i watched a lot Michigan and he Puts up a relentless Motor and effort on every fecking play. He has a great size and length. His injury sucked. I hope he has a good year I believe he will be a Senior. He could be a future DE on the Opposite side of Judon. All in All there are some interesting edge rushers. Harrison from OSU and Jackson from USC could have a big role this year.

Was surprised to see Hutchinson so low on @BaconGrundleCandy provisional list. Played better than Payne in some games. Full game stud not just highlights. And as PTP as it gets. Bigger DE def could be a target early next yr.
 

patsfanfromoversea

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Was surprised to see Hutchinson so low on @BaconGrundleCandy provisional list. Played better than Payne in some games.
I thought so as well. Even tough he probably won't be as athletic as Paye he looks like a more stout DE who offers more on early downs. I am excited to see him this year esp. against the pass. He is probably a high character guy at least looks like one. Always celebrates when his teammates are making good plays etc.
Full game stud not just highlights. And as PTP as it gets. Bigger DE def could be a target early next yr.
I agree. Guys like Perkins Wino Jennings Uche are more typical OLB/ stand up Edge guys in our defense at least on early downs. Hutchinson could see a role like Wise maybe. They are similar in terms of Size/Weight. Prototypical hand in dirt early down role at DE and third down inside/outside versality
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Was surprised to see Hutchinson so low on @BaconGrundleCandy provisional list. Played better than Payne in some games. Full game stud not just highlights. And as PTP as it gets. Bigger DE def could be a target early next yr.
They're not ranked. Just in the right neighborhoods. After the first tier it's just getting them into the right groupings. I moved him up a few spots for ya LD
 

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