Atlanta Mayor to have Biggest Parade Ever for Falcons if they win

[UGAPatsfan]

I am from New England but have lived in North Gwinnett (North Atlanta Suburb) for 8 years now. I don't care for the actual city of Atlanta because the traffic is the worst of anywhere I have ever been, and it's just not worth it to me to go into the city for that reason. Having said that, the burbs here are awesome places to raise a family and most folks are genuinely nice people. Lots of my dearest friends are Falcons fans and were it not against the Pats I would be pulling for them myself. But, loyalty is deep with me so of course I am hoping we deystroy them. Arrow is pointing up for the Dirty Birds so they have a nice window to lead the NFC South for years.

I have also come to love College Football here (Go Dawgs!) as growing up in Maine no one cared.

 

[mosslost]

Mayor Reed wants to have the biggest parade ever in Atlanta if Falcons win Super Bowl

He also has a parade route in mind.

He will have to pay and bus in attendees though, like a Clinton rally

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Atlanta is awesome. Sorry you had a poor experience

I think Atlanta still suffers, fairly or unfairly (mostly unfairly), from what most would call the "mixed" legacy of the 1996 Olympics. Since most of us only travel your way on business or if we have family living there or in school, this is really the first time the city has been "in our faces" in 20 years.

As for the Olympics, great moments within the venues (Muhammad Ali's lighting the Olympic Flame, Kerri Strug's Vault on a broken leg to win the Team Gold for the US, Michael Johnson) were overshadowed by the tragedy of the bombing, the botched investigation that literally destroyed the life of an innocent man and the perceived "ticky tack" commercialism surrounding the events. That old fraud Juan Antonio Samaranch didn't help matters by dissing Atlanta in his final remarks. It's a toss up in my mind whether the International Olympic Committee or FIFA belong at the top of the Corrupt Sports Organizations list.

That was Atlanta's last walk across the global stage in our lifetimes. Now, the city has returned. The SB is a global event, second only to the UEFA Champions League Championship Game in global viewership, led by around 120 million on average in the US and a difficult to count millions of viewers elsewhere. But, if someone wanted to say that 200 million people will tune in to some or all of the game, I wouldn't argue with them.

Atlanta has quietly and efficiently moved on in the 20 years since those Olympic Games. But, I think that some of the negative images still linger in people's memories.

In some ways, the Olympics seem to have jinxed the city in more ways than one. I believe that the last major professional sports team to win a Championship was the Braves in 1995..a year before the Olympics. So, maybe the city feels that it is time to free itself from its history...but, remember, you are playing against a team based in a city that waited 86 years to win a World Series, after trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees.

 

[jimnance]

Celebrating a war criminal? Top notch stuff

Gotta agree with you here. Even tho it was 150+ years ago, a war criminal is still a war criminal, which is one of the lowest forms of life on the planet. Sherman was a pos. I don't think those posters meant any harm, but it was a very dumb attempt at humor.

But falcons are still gonna get waxed.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Gotta agree with you here. Even tho it was 150+ years ago, a war criminal is still a war criminal, which is one of the lowest forms of life on the planet. Sherman was a pos. I don't think those posters meant any harm, but it was a very dumb attempt at humor.

But falcons are still gonna get waxed.

ALERT: Way, Way, Way OT.

It's probably not right to judge Sherman's actions by today's standards.

As with every war, the victors get to write the history and determine what was and was not "criminal."

By demoralizing the South and demonstrating that the Union could live off the land by foraging behind enemy lines, the March had a major impact on the Confederacy's will to fight. Sherman reached Savannah in the middle of December, 1864. The War had dragged on for four long, bloody and destructive years. The South formally surrendered less than six months later.

Sherman presented Lincoln with Savannah as a "Christmas present" in a letter that year. Lincoln thanked him, proclaiming the campaign to be "indeed a great success. Not only does it afford the obvious and immediate military advantage; but...[by demonstrating your Army's tactical abilities]...it brings those, who sat in darkness, to see a great light."

Does that make Lincoln any more or less a War Criminal than was Harry Truman for dropping the Atomic Bomb to end WW II? Or does it mean that two Presidents, entrusted with the leadership of our great country at critical times, each had to make very difficult decisions without the benefit of hindsight? No one who has visited Hiroshima wants nuclear weapons ever again to be used on civilian populations. No one who knows the history of Sherman's march wants it repeated. But, that doesn't mean that each wasn't understandable in the context of its time?


And, yes, the Falcons are going to get waxed....

 

[jimnance]

ALERT: Way, Way, Way OT.

It's probably not right to judge Sherman's actions by today's standards.

As with every war, the victors get to write the history and determine what was and was not criminal..
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********! So if The Nazis won ww2 Hitler is not a war criminal? Evil is evil. Winning or losing has nothing to do with it. AndSherman went way beyond what he was told to do by Lincoln.
I know you can't believe what you wrote. You're not that morally bankrupt. Btw- I didnt go offtopic - the posters who attempted a lame joke did.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

********! So if The Nazis won ww2 Hitler is not a war criminal? Evil is evil. Winning or losing has nothing to do with it. AndSherman went way beyond what he was told to do by Lincoln.
I know you can't believe what you wrote. You're not that morally bankrupt. Btw- I didnt go offtopic - the posters who attempted a lame joke did.

The statement was cynical, as it always is when used...but it is a common expression.

Do you really think that if the US had lost WWII that US Officials wouldn't have been prosecuted by a victorious Axis for War Crimes for dropping the atomic bomb on civilians in Japan and carpet bombing German cities with their women, children and elderly men in their homes and beds? Instead, the Enola Gay and its crew are the stuff of legend and the bombing of Dresden and Hamburg are remembered as great accomplishments. The intent of both was to demoralize the enemy and, as did Sherman's March, succeeded in doing so.

Would that have made Hitler any less a murderer? No, but it would have meant that there would have been no Nuremberg Trials to hold his Generals to account, replaced by trials in Berlin and Tokyo for those we herald as heroes.

With regard to Sherman's March to the Sea, as is always the case in the Fog of War, what Sherman's orders were and how he might have deviated from them is the subject of considerable discussion over 150 years later; he was a General in the field, behind enemy lines and had considerable discretion. Lincoln is on record as having been concerned for the safety of Sherman's army, operating in the heart of the South in an unprecedented manner. However those questions may be answered, the reality is that Sherman, Grant and their Commander in Chief were credited with hastening the end of a long and brutal War.

 

[jimnance]

Don't want to get in a long ot discussion.

Like I said before, winning or losing is irrelevant as to morality, which is really all that matters. I disagree with a lot of your 1st post but I agree 100% with your last sentence, which was also the case with Nagasaki & hiroshima. Back to football

 

[OhExaulted1]

A parade in Atlanta, huh? I'm envisioning it would something like this

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Don't want to get in a long ot discussion.

Like I said before, winning or losing is irrelevant as to morality, which is really all that matters. I disagree with a lot of your 1st post but I agree 100% with your last sentence, which was also the case with Nagasaki & hiroshima. Back to football

I too agree that winning or losing is irrelevant to morality and thus my original remark about victors determining the criminality/morality of actions during wartime was quite cynical.
Back to football.

 

[1960Pats]

In 2005, the Philadelphia mayor infamously announced the parade route for the Eagles SB celebration. BB posted the parade route on the locker room bulletin board. Pats won their third.

He did more than post it on the board. He read the route to the team at a meeting. It starts around the 1 minute mark ...