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Any chance McGinest gets cut?

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If you bring back McGinest and cut Pierre Woods, you strengthen the OLB position but weaken special teams. Woods was very good in that area.

The age of McGinest does factor into this. We need a future at the OLB position. Woods may not be but McGinest absolutely is not.

If we decided to carry only two TEs, would you be happy to see David Thomas get cut to keep Kyle Brady? What if the team announced that they had strongly considered moving up for Stewart Bradley but decided Junior Seau was good for one more year?

Again, Woods may not turn into much but the potential that he or other young players might is why some here aren't anxious to bring Willie back.

I don't think signing someone like McGinest precludes having young talent to develop. Ideally, you want to have a mix of youth and veteran players as backups for any position.

At LB, there is no reason not to keep 4 backup LBs, two vets, two younger guys. What's so tricky about that?

Besides, in this entire thread, people are completely ignoring BB's extremely well-documented preference for veterans at the LB position. He has never drafted one LB that he has groomed to become a starter. The closest he came was TBC who he let walk.

So why folks seem to think BB would favor keeping a pair of late round/UDFA LBs over a guy like McG is beyond me.

Yes, McG is not the future, but he could play a key role in an 07 SB run, which is what I would rather have over an UDFA who plays good special teams.
 
I'd love to see McGinnist and Seau backing up the fort. That would be great depth and solid leadership.
 
At LB, there is no reason not to keep 4 backup LBs, two vets, two younger guys. What's so tricky about that?
Two tricky parts:

1. you are treating LBs as though they are interchangeable. We are fortunate that we need a vet ILB and Seau is available.

2. WMG is not a FA. If he is any good the Browns won't cut him because they gave him a sb and he's onluy been there one year and the cap hit would kill them, and if do cut him because he is so bad they are willing to take a cap hit, why would you want him?
 
At LB, there is no reason not to keep 4 backup LBs, two vets, two younger guys. What's so tricky about that?

AD, Bruschi, Colvin, Vrabel, Willie, Izzo, Woods and Alexander? Who plays the WILL or are you suggesting Vrabel or Thomas moves there permanently?

Look, the sentimental side of my being a longtime Pats fan says I want Willie back in a heartbeat because of all the guys who are no longer with this franchise, I miss him the most. Hell, I'm still a bit pissed off he's no longer with the team. However, the rational side of me says we really need an ILB to work and help Tedy more than we need Willie especially after the AD signing.

Then there's the question of why the Browns, who doled out a fair chunk of change for Willie not only for his play, but to instill a winning culture and attitude on a young, inexperienced team would cut the guy and take a cap hit one year into his service when he's still making enough plays.

Besides, in this entire thread, people are completely ignoring BB's extremely well-documented preference for veterans at the LB position. He has never drafted one LB that he has groomed to become a starter. The closest he came was TBC who he let walk.

OK, Tully was a seventh round pick. If that's the standard for grooming starters, I think we can also add Claridge to the list given he was a fifth rounder. Also, Turner and Tisdale were both seventh round picks. And that's just BB drafting LBs or a DE conversion project like Tully with the Pats organization. If we were to go back to his drafts with the Browns, he did draft LBs Gerard Dixon and Mike Caldwell in the third round. Hell, he even drafted LB Craig Powell in the first round in his last draft with the Browns. BB's probably learned a thing or two about the value of 34 LBs in the draft since his days with the Browns, but something tells me he'd have no problem drafting a LB with a first round pick if he thought that prospect was as good a player as say Vilma.
 
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So I was thinking the other day ... what are the chances McG gets cut by Cleveland? What is his cap #? I thought it was pretty hefty ...

Anyway, he'd be a PERFECT addition if he is looking for one more ring.

I'd feel a whole lot better if he was coming in of the bench at OLB and Seau an ILB reserve.
The Patriots have a younger, faster, stronger, more versatile version of McGinest - his name is Adalius Thomas.
 
the only 55 that might me playing for the pats is junor cause if they cut willy mac it meens he cant play any more cause they dont have 4 good LBS to play the 3-4
 
I'd love to see McGinnist and Seau backing up the fort. That would be great depth and solid leadership.

Mc Ginest and Seau backing up the fort ? yes: i am with you, i agree
 
What's done is done.
 
IF they cut him, it's because he's garbage. Willie at 60 years old would be a "good backup" according to you guys.

Why not bring back Bill Lenkaitis as a backup for Koppen? Andre Tippett could probably do better than Willie right now.
 
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