And The Talk About Wynn Continues

[mgteich]

Wynn wasn't in camp, so the OT's needed to changed.

It would have been so, so easy to have Herron replace Wynn and leave Brown at RT. Of course, Belichick played with the media (as always) by moving Brown to LT and having Herron play RT.

 

[TheRainMaker]

There’s got to be a valid reason why he’s doing this.

Given his injury history, I’m guessing he’s limiting his exposure as this is his last year under contract.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Wynn is playing on his fifth year option, which means he makes 10+ plus mil guaranteed, however, no workout or off season bonuses, so no financial incentive to show up at OTAs. If he doesn't show for mini camp, then you might have something, but OTAs? like most of us, if you ain't getting paid for work, your not showing up for work.

 

[Triumph]

On the plus side Wynn didnt give up any sacks.

 

[Ross12]

Very interesting. Kind of weird. Seems like you’d want Onwenu at RT but then you have a big hole at RG with no obvious solutions. Wonder if Herron is any good at RT. Brown was a monster at RT but they also used him and Mason as a road tandem to run behind. If they want to pass more now, perhaps a better LT is more important and a strong RT becomes less of a focus.

 

[n1997y]

Wynn is playing on his fifth year option, which means he makes 10+ plus mil guaranteed, however, no workout or off season bonuses, so no financial incentive to show up at OTAs. If he doesn't show for mini camp, then you might have something, but OTAs? like most of us, if you ain't getting paid for work, your not showing up for work.

Speak for yourself. Some of us are on salary, get paid whether we show up or not, and still show up.

and some of us know that putting in the work is important to being the best we can be, and especially being better than that guy who is there trying to take our job and make it his job. So we show up when we don’t have to because we know it’s better for us.

maybe Wynn is doing the work at home, by himself. But part of the work is working together as a team, and I’m worried about that aspect especially when he is going to be playing next to somebody new. It’s a trade off, he’s got to get healthy and stay healthy and be fresh and ready for the grind. OTOH Wynn and the OL had room for improvement last year, that’s why BB blew the unit up and is rebuilding it. Wynn needs to get with that program IMHO, not showing up is a factor in that most important ability, availability.

 

[mgteich]

Very interesting. Kind of weird. Seems like you’d want Onwenu at RT but then you have a big hole at RG with no obvious solutions. Wonder if Herron is any good at RT. Brown was a monster at RT but they also used him and Mason as a road tandem to run behind. If they want to pass more now, perhaps a better LT is more important and a strong RT becomes less of a focus.

Please write 10 times on the blackboard

Onwenu is NOT a starting OT
Onwenu is NOT a backup OT (except in emergencies)

 

[mgteich]

.. Wonder if Herron is any good at RT.

Staff has evaluated this issue and continues to do so.

I believe that when Brown went down last year, the team chose to have Herron play rather than Onwenu.

In any case, I believe that team is comfortable with Herron as our backup RT.

 

[jah]

Speak for yourself. Some of us are on salary, get paid whether we show up or not, and still show up.

and some of us know that putting in the work is important to being the best we can be, and especially being better than that guy who is there trying to take our job and make it his job. So we show up when we don’t have to because we know it’s better for us.

maybe Wynn is doing the work at home, by himself. But part of the work is working together as a team, and I’m worried about that aspect especially when he is going to be playing next to somebody new. It’s a trade off, he’s got to get healthy and stay healthy and be fresh and ready for the grind. OTOH Wynn and the OL had room for improvement last year, that’s why BB blew the unit up and is rebuilding it. Wynn needs to get with that program IMHO, not showing up is a factor in that most important ability, availability.

I don't know about you, but despite having a salaried position, I would get fired pretty quickly if I didn't show up under the assumption I get paid either way. The fact that I do show up doesn't speak to my work ethic relative to an hourly worker.

 

[ralmat55]

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Reading Reiss’ notes yesterday, it sounds like the Pats have buyer’s remorse for picking up Wynn’s 5th year option.

I think the Patriots would rather accumulate the cap space to get through the season by cutting salary rather than pushing salary into the future. So, I wonder whether the Pats might have a chance to trade Wynn?

Even if the Pats had to pay 3-4 million of Wynn’s $ 10.4 million guarantee to facilitate a trade, it makes sense if you believe a healthy, engaged Trent Brown is a better LT than Wynn and that, with a full off season and TC, one of Herron, Durant, Cajuste or Stueber can get the job done at RT for a million bucks or less.

 

[Triumph]

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Reading Reiss’ notes yesterday, it sounds like the Pats have buyer’s remorse for picking up Wynn’s 5th year option.

I think the Patriots would rather accumulate the cap space to get through the season by cutting salary rather than pushing salary into the future. So, I wonder whether the Pats might have a chance to trade Wynn?

Even if the Pats had to pay 3-4 million of Wynn’s $ 10.4 million guarantee to facilitate a trade, it makes sense if you believe a healthy, engaged Trent Brown is a better LT than Wynn and that, with a full off season and TC, one of Herron, Durant, Cajuste or Stueber can get the job done at RT for a million bucks or less.

It would likely be another trade where NE gets a 4th that could be a 3rd depending on Wynns playing time.

 

[Triumph]

I met Willie Roaf who at that time had not given up a sack for KC.

He wasn't 6 - 2 I can tell you that.

 

[patfanken]

Would I have preferred that Wynn show up at OTA's, of course I do. But the fact of the matter is we are talking about missing about 6 practices IN MAY for a guy who has already has 4 years in the system. If he were a new FA, or a QB I would have a BIT more concern.

What I WOULD like to know is if there is a reason other than just deciding not to.come to this VOLUNTARY mini camps. Is it an injury? Is it a contract dispute, or what? Just curious. All I really want for Memorial Day want is a healthy Wynn showing up the first day of TC in late JULY and I'll be happy
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[venecol]

 

[jimnance]

Whats he talking about?

 

[venecol]

Whats he talking about?

Who knows. That's his last tweet. Typical cryptic crap. For all we know he just dropped a huge load on the throne when he posted that.

 

[jimnance]

Whatever. I hope he'll be healthy but if not Brown is a great lt. Rt would be a downgrade(herron) but I think that might be the least important ol pos. this year.
I think lt and the 3 interior pos. are important.
Strange/Andrews/Onwenu is potentially a great interior ol- both pass and run blocking. As a pocket qb Mac needs protection from interior passrushers. But he also needs a strong lt vs outside passrushers. Its not that Onwenu couldne become a great rt, its more that they need him more at rg to keep interior ol strong for both run and pass games.
Wynn is a decent lt when healthy but thats the issue. Ideally hes available all season and Brown stays at rt but if not, the starting ol could dtill be very strong.
But the problem then becomes depth. And that looks like a problem right now.

 

[venecol]

Is it typical for Reiss to write stuff like this coming out of nowhere about a player (team regrets extension, possible trade)? Or does he only write this stuff if he has a source? Idk, just asking since there's a bunch of articles about possible Wynn trades based on Reiss' article.

It would honestly shock me, if it happens, to be honest. That would mean 3 new starters on the OL with already questionable depth. Unless they're looking at a vet UFA. But who?

Best guys left are Duane Brown (hell of a LT but 36+ yo) & Eric Fisher (avg LT). I'm not the biggest fan of Wynn, but would rather see him stay for continuity on the line.

 

[jimnance]

Is it typical for Reiss to write stuff like this coming out of nowhere about a player (team regrets extension, possible trade)? Or does he only write this stuff if he has a source? Idk, just asking since there's a bunch of articles about possible Wynn trades based on Reiss' article.

It would honestly shock me, if it happens, to be honest. That would mean 3 new starters on the OL with already questionable depth. Unless they're looking at a vet UFA. But who?

Best guys left are Duane Brown (hell of a LT but 36+ yo) & Eric Fisher (avg LT). I'm not the biggest fan of Wynn, but would rather see him stay for continuity on the line.

Reiss never does hot takes and doesnt speculate much- unless it's something that really deserves honest speculation. I think it's a legit question that Pats might have regrets picking up Wynn's option,esp. considering his injury history.

 

[mgteich]

Maybe Belichick is truly considering whether to go with Brown (LT) and Herron (RT). To me, that would mean that the doctors are convinced of the health of brown AND of Cajuste (or that Belichick has someone he knows he can trade for as a backup).

POSSIBLE
Wynn for a 7th (gains lots of cap space)
Sign or trade for a backup OT