PATRIOTS NEWS Adalius complains to SMY about 2008 arm injury treatment, 2009 role

[BritPat]

Very interesting interview with him from SMY in the Globe:

Thomas on the outside - The Boston Globe

I just don't get why things turned sour all of a sudden. I'm not bothered if he's traded myself, but I would like to see him stay and see things smoothed over. He is still a good player, even if his play dropped last year.

I think he's the perfect SILB, even if it sounds like he really wants to play Outside.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Re: Adalius.

Very interesting interview with him from SMY in the Globe:

Thomas on the outside - The Boston Globe

I just don't get why things turned sour all of a sudden. I'm not bothered if he's traded myself, but I would like to see him stay and see things smoothed over. He is still a good player, even if his play dropped last year.

I think he's the perfect SILB, even if it sounds like he really wants to play Outside.

I hope he is gone. Cut, traded, which ever way they can get rid of him. I highly doubt that Belichick really wants to smooth things over with a guy who is the highest paid and least productive player of the defense. Maybe we can trade Thomas to the Raiders for 2012 and 2013 first round picks.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Re: Adalius.

I hope he's gone too, but I think he won't be given his release until well into training camp. He will probably be dangled as trade bait on draft day.

 

[Nonentity]

Re: Adalius.

There's just so much we don't know. Adalius does interviews once every couple of months that basically say he has no idea where it all went wrong. Bill, of course, says nothing. But info from the Patriots organisation is drip-fed into the ears of friendly reporters, suggesting what the problems were.

We may find out at some point. I don't know.


But if I had to choose between the 22nd pick in this draft, and a healthy, committed, Adalius Thomas....I don't know which I'd choose. But I'm leaning towards the latter.

 

[Tunescribe]

Re: Adalius.

I'm getting tired of his "poor me, I'm so confused" act. All he has to do is approach BB directly and clear the air. SMY should have asked him if he has tried that yet, and if not, why not. Very fishy situation.

 

[DarrylS]

Re: Adalius.

Sounds like a pity party to me.. there has to be more to this story, unfortunately we may never know it.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Adalius.

There's just so much we don't know. Adalius does interviews once every couple of months that basically say he has no idea where it all went wrong. Bill, of course, says nothing. But info from the Patriots organisation is drip-fed into the ears of friendly reporters, suggesting what the problems were.

We may find out at some point. I don't know.

Three things we know:

1. Wilfork said there were guys who didn't give effort and he didn't want them on the team.

2. Pryor (a rookie!!) said thre were problems in the locker room.

3. Tedy Bruschi said, "Why is he even here?"

4. No player, no one, has come to Thomas's defense when articles come out that are not complimentary to him.

okay, there were four. Sue me

 

[Nonentity]

Re: Adalius.

You're thinking about it the wrong way.

1) What happened to make Adalius less productive?

2) What happened to make Adalius unhappy and stop putting as much effort in?

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: Adalius.

The worst tackler in the NFL last season with as much money as he is getting paid?

It was obvious he decided not to play at full potential last season and was just screwing around trying to not get hurt instead of putting his body on the line.

The last time we saw AD make a big play was when he took Favre and Washington down for that QB sack in 2008

Even if he stays,who knows when he will decide to pack it up again?

No thanks to keeping him,the man has not been the same since he left the Ravens system and keeping him would reek of desperation.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Adalius.

Fact 1) The patriots aren't paying Thomas $4.9M to play this year (and $5.9M in 2011)
Fact 2) The patriots may find someone else who will give us a 5th or 6th for him or not.
Fact 3) The ony question is when he will be off the roster; there is no rush.
Fact 4) I don't care why. If you all do, read the next patriot book when it comes out.

 

[Water Boy]

Re: Adalius.

Its a shame that a player with the physical tools and ability that AD has not lived up to his potential in NE. The OLB position should have been a major strength on this team with AD in the fold.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Re: Adalius.

I think we do know what went wrong only we didn't want to assume it was true so we treated it like media bs.

Holley has remained tight with Rosie since he retired and Rosie said that AD was problematic from the get go because while he's smart as a whip he is also entitled and entrenched from his days in B'more. A place where talent kinda did their thing and spoke their piece. Baltimore chose not to retain him in his prime. There has to be a reason. Ray threw him under the bus. There probably was a reason for that too. My guess would be he saw coming here as his opportunity to shine, to be our Ray. Ray calls the shots in B'more. When he got here he had to be tag teamed into drinking the koolaid and being part of a unit and a scheme by the backerhood. Bill calls the shots here. He listens to input from his players but he values it based on their track record of unselfishness. He wasn't listening to AD, in fact he was making demands of him he wasn't prepared for when he signed on. Even simple things like working out. Felger has a source who claims Bill walked through the weight room during his first season here and said deliberately within earshot of AD "this is what we paid millions for?" AD denies overhearing that... Players will tell you to a man that you always know where you stand with Bill, unless you just don't want to acknowledge it.

AD eventually became the Player Rep. I think Bill resents time spent on other activities on his nickle, and moreso when it's a guy he feels isn't truly earning his own keep... Most bosses probably feel that way. The proverbial you know what hit the fan when in the midst of generally disappointing season AD missed the meeting after the meeting where Bill asked them ALL to be early and stay late from here on out because the team was struggling to find it's stride. Not sure if Bill was the one who informed each of those players they were dismissed for the day as a result. But he was the guy who informed AD and he didn't tip toe around it. He reportedly told AD to "get the F out of here". In turn all AD could muster is dropping a dime on his girl SMY and pointing out all his legit excuses (caught in traffic, called ahead...dog ate my homework). He could not bring himself to say NO EXCUSES, I blew it when my team needed me to step up. It's about accountability here. AD has repeatedly stated he has not talked to Bill other than in meeting rooms since. He does not understand why he should have to be the initiator. He isn't going to own up to his own shortcomings on the field or in the locker room. Bill can be pretty forgiving as long as he believes he's getting a guys genuine best effort. He obviously doesn't believe he's ever really gotten that from AD and he isn't remotely getting it any longer, let alone when that guy is undercutting his authority. End of discussion as a result.

Now we have the further embellished rationale for how it all went wrong per AD. He didn't lose his job because he didn't earn it, he lost it because they inexplicably became disenchanted with him. Poor guy. Makes perfect sense if you're self absorbed and in denial.

Not a teamate past or present mourns his passing or offers support for his predicament (beyond Bart Scott). That tells you all you need to know. He was never the elite talent he projected to be when surrounded by a collection of elite talent. He was just a cog in the wheel. Both the player and this FO miscalculated his value as a result. Only one of them is prepared to admit it and walk away as a result.

He'll be gone when it suits Bill. No rush because of a no cap season. Might as well dangle him as long as you can since he won't show before mandatory veteran mini camp and they can easily sit him for that based on this interview alone (concern for his still aching wrist). They can probably sit this guy well into TC if it comes to it. They rolled the potential injury dice with Milloy at a time when the cap made that a huge risk. If he wants to play he won't mess with injury. If he does he can go on IR and be cut at the end of the season or request an injury settlement. If he's here for camp they will probably demand a restructure. He can then agree to facilitate a trade or demand his release after Bill lets 31 other teams know what he feels he's actually worth...

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Adalius.

I'm getting tired of his "poor me, I'm so confused" act. All he has to do is approach BB directly and clear the air. SMY should have asked him if he has tried that yet, and if not, why not. Very fishy situation.

Adalius belongs in the "Nothing" thread ... he brings nothing.

 

[102 Pat]

Re: Adalius.

What I still don't get, even after this piece, when he made those snide comments after "snow gate", did he not realize the media would publish the hell out of those comments? I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded next thursday or friday. At least get something out of his time here. Time to back that Brink's truck away from his house...

 

[ramon]

Re: Adalius.

This interview was completely self serving for AT !
he puts it out there to try to rehab his image and get more teams interested in him.
He obviously has ZERO real interest in playing for the patriots or he would never have given this interview.
If he wanted to play out his contract the approach would be simple...go into BB office, apologize for everything that has happened in past and tell him he wants to 100% commit himself to helping the team win.


This interview has 100% sealed his fate as being gone. At this point he will not be anything other than a me first type player and he should be gone.
I had hoped he would make amends but it will not happen


I think any team would be dumb to trade for him, because they no he will be released in Jun...

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Adalius.

Three things we know:

1. Wilfork said there were guys who didn't give effort and he didn't want them on the team.

2. Pryor (a rookie!!) said thre were problems in the locker room.

3. Tedy Bruschi said, "Why is he even here?"

4. No player, no one, has come to Thomas's defense when articles come out that are not complimentary to him.

okay, there were four. Sue me

My Space Lawyer is on the way.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Re: Adalius.

What I still don't get, even after this piece, when he made those snide comments after "snow gate", did he not realize the media would publish the hell out of those comments? I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded next thursday or friday. At least get something out of his time here. Time to back that Brink's truck away from his house...

He was expecting the kind of response you get in most franchise cities when if talent and staff clash, the staff more often than not eventually gets shown the door. Some have indimated that AD felt he was in position to facilitate the long anticipated knocking Belichick down a couple of pegs internally and externally, if not off his pedestal altogether. If that's the case AD truly has delusions of grandeur. And he has known all along exactly where he stood with Bill. Even as we didn't because publicly Bill always has their backs, even when they don't deserve it.

 

[mcsully]

Re: Adalius.

I think we do know what went wrong only we didn't want to assume it was true so we treated it like media bs.

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Nice job analyzing everything..

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Adalius.

You're thinking about it the wrong way.

1) What happened to make Adalius less productive?

2) What happened to make Adalius unhappy and stop putting as much effort in?

I think it all stems from coming from a system that allow him to be undeciplined and allowed him to speak his mind. He was obviously never able to the adapt to a more structured system that didn't allow him to freelance and to be a team player. I blame the player for that. I blame the Pats for not doing enough homework on the guy to know he was going to be this problem.

I mean the guy wasn't popular in Baltimore either and at least Ray Lewis felt he was just a product of their system and not a hard worker. There is a trend here.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Re: Adalius.

This article was a strategic ploy by AD in an attempt to accelerate his departure from the team. Now he is saying that he didn't get the proper rehab on his arm b/c he does not have "preferred" status on the team. Amazing.

The Pats and AD need to speak at some point. Would not be surprised if it happens this week. Pretty clear that he will not be paid $4.9m by the team and just as clear IMO he will not be with the team in 2010.

According to AD, if he is holding true to looking out for himself, I'm sure Bus Cook has stealthy spoken to other teams and has posed hypotheticals such as, "if a OLB from the NEP was released, would you consider picking him up?". This is important to consider as the Pats will try and get something for him on draft day, but the other team will demand a renegotiation of his current contract. If AD is unwilling to do such (because Bus told him that X team would pay such and such), the Pats will release him outright after the draft and AD will sign elsewhere.

I can understand AD looking out for himself (for those of us in the working world with families, we need to) but if you choose to work somewhere, you give it 100% effort and make every effort to be part of the organization (team player, do your job, work hard, etc). As Mo gracefully articulated in his post, it seems AD's makeup and what the Pats expect from their players was a behavioral mismatch. Whether he chose not to perform or can't perform at a high-level is debatable. Maybe in the right system or role he can still do well. Who knows.

Time to cut the chord and losses. Both sides need to move in. It will happen. IMO, both sides are trying to maximize their potential compensation. Pats with picks/players and get out of paying and AD trying to maximize his next contract and get in a good situation with another team.