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Discussion in 'Boston Celtics Fan Forum' started by IcyPatriot, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    I will start if off with this ...

    Who is watching the summer league games starting tonight.
    I am intrigued by Williams and Wanamaker ...

    Marcus Smart - I offer 3yrs $20 million .... $9 / $10 / $11 million ...
    or let him take the $6 million and replace him in the draft ...........
     
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  2. captain insano

    captain insano Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    im watching. williams is off to a tough start.
    Celtics notebook: Top draft pick Robert Williams goes out with left knee injury
     
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  3. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Watching Celtics vs Nicks ...
    Plaese with this Yabusele stuff ... too slow - too fat.
     
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  4. captain insano

    captain insano Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    i like yabusele.
     
  5. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    What happened to J Bird off to a great start didn't see him last game?
     
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  6. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    They get nights off so others can showcase for scouts.
     
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  7. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    I like Bird to take S Larkin's roster spot

    Looks like Leonard is going to Raptor's

    Williams has a lot of work to do to avoid a trip to Maine
     
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  8. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Nader gone ... about time ... he was horrible.
    He'll make money playing overseas.
     
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  9. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

    ...as would I, because the Cs need Guards with size who can knock down shots (unlike NotSo and Scary), but not a peep so far regarding a signing. What gives?
     
  10. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

    Completely agree...what an absofeckinlutely horrible pick that was...16th overall, for that fat feckin tub of goo? I don't know if I would've drafted him even with the 51st pick used on Ben Bentil.
     
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  11. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

    Danny: Who needs Jabari Bird when I just signed...wait for it...Walt the Lemon?!?
     
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  12. IcyPatriot

    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    I don't get that Lemon signing ... but I really like Bird.
    I think he can be a serviceable scoring wing off the bench in this league.
    I think he will move ahead of Wannamaker.
     
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  13. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

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  14. captain stone

    captain stone Pro Bowl Player

    Now if Danny could just get rid of Baynes & Yabbadabbadoo and replace them with 2 Centers with actual talent.
     
  15. Hyped

    Hyped PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    - Nah, I love Baynes. He's perfect for us. We don't really start a center...and Baynes can actually knock down some shots.

    - We need a Bird replacement now.

    - Man, I cannot wait for this season to start in 32 days!!! 60+ wins is the expectation from me.
     
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  16. rochrist

    rochrist Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Yes, replace the center with the best defensive metrics in the entire league. Good plan there!
     
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  17. Boston Boxer

    Boston Boxer U.S. Air Force Retired PatsFans.com Supporter

    Baynes is perfect for us. He does the dirty work and can actually shoot a little bit. Pair him with our new young C and we have a nice little thing going down low IMO

    i think the only thing we are lacking is a shooter off the bench
     
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  18. captain insano

    captain insano Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    i love baynes to. im glad hes not going anywhere.
     
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  19. borg

    borg Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    My... "Nine games into the Season/Way Too Early to Critique the C's But Why the Hell Not" posting:

    I get what the Brad is trying to accomplish.... work Hayward back into physical shape/mental shape.... yada yada.
    At the same time, the Brad is attempting to maintain some of Haywards alpha dog status by demonstrating that Hayward retains the franchise's support /commitment by giving him his starting spot and minutes that he does not deserve right now. Physically, the guy cannot compete as a starter and his presence on the floor hurts the C's. Mentally.....Hayward still sees the game but his body is not ready. No hops, not lateral....tough to watch.
    It will be a delicate balancing act as the season goes forward.....minutes vs wins. Right now, Gordon is a huge liability.

    Next topic......the Celtics enhanced three point reliance this season.
    Mathematically I get it. My issue is: why not actually bring in a sniper if the plan is to fire threes at a record pace. This team has so much depth plus draft pick assets to secure a bonafide shooter....yet we see a back up centers launching, the worst shooter in the NBA launching, the guy who mops up floor sweat launching. I'm hoping Trader Danny can find a veteran sniper at some point this season.

    Next....No question in my mind the C's have a below average inside game. Max-Contract Al isn't an inside guy. Hayward has no legs. Tatum doesn't have the bod and has trouble avoiding the charge. Brown gets stuffed at the rim like no other. The Aussie tries....but now Brad wants him 23 feet out at times. Can teams that lose the inside game win today? Maybe?

    Defense: no question this team gives full effort defensively and even Kyrie is showing defensive effort out there which is a huge plus. I'm still trying to work out all the calculations on why the C's keep scores low. On one hand, the Celtics are closer to their own basket because of all the 3's attempted....so less chance to get outnumbered. The C's certainly don't crash the offensive boards...meaning the C's are already retreating when their shot is in the air. On the other hand, without a offensive rebounding presence to challenge them, opponents get extra possessions. Defense instead of rebounds is a conscious coach's decision.....
    ...or....are the C's just a terrible rebounding team and Brad simply compensates for his team's deficiencies? I vote this.

    Has Brad embraced the "we are what we are" and the "we'll do what we do best" ?
    Launch 3's and play defense?
    It works in Golden State ....with less an emphasis on defense. But GS has some of the best shooters in the History of the NBA plus an unstoppable offensive big guy. Boston has Big Game Marcus Smart and the New Aussie Cannon.

    My 9 game MVP: Morris. The man is on fire and the C's most consistent offensive player.
    Lost in the shuffle: Brown....not enough minutes, no defined role offensively.
    Trying to claim an Alpha role: Tatum. The guy wants to be the Man on this team but his shooting is holding him back. I am not convinced he ever will be. His body lacks the athleticism of the greats.
    My wish.......More minutes for Semi. NBA body, sweet long-distance stroke, huge upside IMO but not enough minutes to develop this guy, especially with Hayward using starting minutes for on-court rehab.
    Who's expendable: I vote Brown. If Hayward improves physically and Semi earns more trust, I could see Brown getting packaged mid season. Young asset with true NBA value. But only if Hayward returns to near normal

    Questions:
    How long will Hayward retain his starting slot? At some point it has to be earned.
    Will Ainge use the team's excessive depth and assets as trading chips...or is he happy to be the league's deepest team despite the obvious holes....shooting, rebounding, inside game?
    And what's with the terrible shooting to open games....two years running?

    Vent over
    6-3......but I would prefer perfection
     
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  20. 1960Pats

    1960Pats PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    They're off to a pretty slow start and missing shots and I can't figure out why exactly.
     

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