2007 Interactive NFL Mock Draft Discussion

[Box_O_Rocks]

Jackson can also play at Tackle as well as End.

In the context of a Tampa-2 D-line that is...

I was willing to consider Centres, but my English to Yankee translation book broke down and wept, then locked itself in the bathroom where I could hear lots of ripping and flushing noises. Very disconcerting.

 

[Flying Fungi]

in a fuggles hop induced state last night, it came to me

we need a way to assess this draft

and here it is:

after the actual draft, we run the numbers of a drafted player's actual selection slot vs. where he was taken in our mock. the number of picks is irrelevant as an average will be taken.

example using the jets mock numbers and theoretical selection slots:

Bowe--25th
Wade--59th
McDonald--63rd
Satele--89th

assume:

Bowe--17th
Wade 57th
McDonald--68th
Satele--82nd

yields:

Bowe--(-8)
Wade--(-2)
McDonald--(+5)
Satele--(-7)

Totals--(-12)/#selections=(-3)

So the NYJ GM would get a (-3) value for this mock.

Any interest in this quantitative analysis of our mock? I suppose we can award a second category or ** for actually making an accurate selection.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

So now that the Raiders are offically done lets look at some of the talent selected.

1. Jamarcus Russel
2. Ryan Kalil
3a. Quentin Moses
3b. Kenny Irons
4. David Irons

I think personally i added great talent to go in and start and almost every position drafted minus CB. D Irons was more of a too good to pass up prospect on my board at round 4 so i took him.

Russel can start immediately at QB
Kalil can start immediately at C or G
Moses is more than capable of winning a DE spot
Irons can compete for the starting game against Jordan
Irons as solid depth to an already young and good backfield.

 

[bakes781]

in a fuggles hop induced state last night, it came to me

we need a way to assess this draft

and here it is:

after the actual draft, we run the numbers of a drafted player's actual selection slot vs. where he was taken in our mock. the number of picks is irrelevant as an average will be taken.

example using the jets mock numbers and theoretical selection slots:

Bowe--25th
Wade--59th
McDonald--63rd
Satele--89th

assume:

Bowe--17th
Wade 57th
McDonald--68th
Satele--82nd

yields:

Bowe--(-8)
Wade--(-2)
McDonald--(+5)
Satele--(-7)

Totals--(-12)/#selections=(-3)

So the NYJ GM would get a (-3) value for this mock.

Any interest in this quantitative analysis of our mock? I suppose we can award a second category or ** for actually making an accurate selection.

How does that make any sense? If you're over by 50 with one pick but then under 50 with another they cancel each other out?

I have simpler idea:

1 point for getting the player in the correct round.
2 points for getting the player within 5 picks of your's.
5 points for getting the player selected exactly right.

 

[Flying Fungi]

How does that make any sense? If you're over by 50 with one pick but then under 50 with another they cancel each other out?

I have simpler idea:

1 point for getting the player in the correct round.
2 points for getting the player within 5 picks of your's.
5 points for getting the player selected exactly right.

what do you mean? it makes perfect sense--if you screw the pooch that badly on a pick (+50), then you suck as a GM--that is the point--you grade out poorly for making a poor selection

you want a mulligan?

 

[bakes781]

what do you mean? it makes perfect sense--if you screw the pooch that badly on a pick (+50), then you suck as a GM--that is the point--you grade out poorly for making a poor selection

you want a mulligan?

NO! LOL You understand that under your scoring system if you have 2 picks that are WAY off but one is 50 picks early & the other is 50 picks late they cancel each other out making it appear that you did well?

 

[Flying Fungi]

NO! LOL You understand that under your scoring system if you have 2 picks that are WAY off but one is 50 picks early & the other is 50 picks late they cancel each other out making it appear that you did well?

absolutely

you must have hated statistics

I do get your point though, but I kind of wanted to see how we matched up--bear in mind that we are all victim to our real-life GM counterparts (pity the Vikings and Lions mock GMs!)...

anyways--it was a thought--and would work--but obviously there are alternative analyses to consider...

 

[bakes781]

absolutely

you must have hated statistics

I do get your point though, but I kind of wanted to see how we matched up--bear in mind that we are all victim to our real-life GM counterparts (pity the Vikings and Lions mock GMs!)...

anyways--it was a thought--and would work--but obviously there are alternative analyses to consider...

if you want to post the exact #s +/- for each pick that's cool, but when you add them up the fact that they were prior to or after the actual pick shouldn't factor in. So to use your example:

Bowe--25th
Wade--59th
McDonald--63rd
Satele--89th

assume:

Bowe--17th
Wade 57th
McDonald--68th
Satele--82nd

8
2
5
7
=
22 & the person with the lowest score wins.

I still think a bonus points should be added to those who get the pick exact.

 

[SamBamsFan]

D*mn Bakes, you stole my pick! I tought no one was paying attention (just because he's of most of our Pats board doesn't mean he isn't a player).

 

[bakes781]

D*mn Bakes, you stole my pick! I tought no one was paying attention (just because he's of most of our Pats board doesn't mean he isn't a player).

I remember the Titans GM 1st mentioned Eric Wright as a plan B to his selection of Josh Wilson in the 2nd round. His stock has only risen since then & could be taken late in the 1st round according to some experts. He does have some character issues stemming from his days at USC, but by transferring to UNLV I think that shows a willingness to wipe the slate clean.

 

[bakes781]

dryheat44 PMed me his choices, so I guess I should go ahead & make his next selection?

 

[ironwasp]

Well, the Cleveland Browns and I are done. Thanks to all for making this a fascinating distraction ahead of the real thing next weekend.

We made the following picks:

3 - Brady Quinn, QB
36 - Aaron Ross, CB
67 - Brian Leonard, RB
103 - Manny Ramirez, G

Picking for the Browns was tough because they have so many needs, and doing it became a question of prioritising need in the early rounds and trying to find guys who solve long term problems but can also contribute now.

At number three I also considered Joe Thomas and Gaines Adams, but felt that everything has to start from under the centre, and neither of the guys on the current roster are either the short or long term answers. Brady Quinn might be and therefire it seemed like a risk worth taking, although I recognise it as a risk.

Aaron Ross was probably the easiest pick of the four. I knew I wanted to go corner in the second round and I was pleasantly surprised to find him still on the board when I got there. I'd probably have taken him over Chris Houston and Marcus McAuley anyway but finding them gone just made the decision easier.

In the third round it was a toss up between Brian Leonard and Antonio Pittman. This choice was complicated by the recent signing of Jamal Lewis, and Pittman might have seemed a better compliment in a two back system. But I only see Lewis being here one year, and next year Leonard will become the uphill power runner to complement a rookie or a FA veteran who can come in a bit smaller and quicker.

Finally, Manny Ramirez was the best guard left out there. I was disappointed to see Marshall Yanda go a couple of piccks before, but I'm happy with Manny. You can't underestimate the importance of having a crazy, big-hitting outfielder on your OL.

Thanks to Sebman, particularly, for his tireless moderating.

 

[bakes781]

3 - Brady Quinn, QB
36 - Aaron Ross, CB
67 - Brian Leonard, RB
103 - Manny Ramirez, G

I'm not a fan of either of the top 2 QB prospects & I would have taken the LT, Thomas at #3. Of course being the Tampa Bay GM I was happy to see him at #4. I really like the Ross & Leonard picks. Great value! The Manny pick was good, but there are some available players of higher value IMO. BTW, I loved the look on his face in that image you posted.

49ers picked John Wendling. Sabby was dryheat's top choice, but he was already taken. Wendling is a solid selection though. His versatility to play CB as well as S will be highly valued in SF who has needs at both positions.

 

[SamBamsFan]

I remember the Titans GM 1st mentioned Eric Wright as a plan B to his selection of Josh Wilson in the 2nd round. His stock has only risen since then & could be taken late in the 1st round according to some experts. He does have some character issues stemming from his days at USC, but by transferring to UNLV I think that shows a willingness to wipe the slate clean.

That wopuld be a bit ironic after considering the ongoing Pac Man saga.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Please place accurate pick # next to your selection. One of them didn't even have a pick # at all and the other claimed pick #9000 something which does not exist. Thanks. Keep it as light as you want on the discussion thread but don't try to confuse the actual draft thread.

 

[gomezcat]

Please place accurate pick # next to your selection. One of them didn't even have a pick # at all and the other claimed pick #9000...

Yep, I'll make sure that I stick to your rule. Following on from Ironwasp's pick, I'm at 9,814. We Brits use the metric system for numbers, you see.

 

[sebman2112]

Yep, I'll make sure that I stick to your rule. Following on from Ironwasp's pick, I'm at 9,814. We Brits use the metric system for numbers, you see.

Crazy bloke

 

[VJCPatriot]

Yep, I'll make sure that I stick to your rule. Following on from Ironwasp's pick, I'm at 9,814. We Brits use the metric system for numbers, you see.

Great, from now on it's your job to assign us all our new draft numbers so we won't get confused. Be sure to use numbers that don't exist in the actual draft, like 1 jillion for example...

PS Can we please get the first page updated, mod person?

 

[dryheat44]

I just got back into town, and will be making my next pick promptly. I just need to review who's been taken. Special thanks to my Assistant GMs.

 

[SamBamsFan]

I just got back into town, and will be making my next pick promptly. I just need to review who's been taken. Special thanks to my Assistant GMs.

You're up. I took Kenny Scott from the "Ramblin' Wreck". Need, value, & regional pick. It was a tough decision between 4 potential picks. Go to it DH.