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rkarp1 said:
aside from Ben Brown, who otherwise played OG after Onwenu and Wilson?
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It's not who played. It's who they dressed.

Against the Giants the Patriots called up Brenden James first, an offensive guard who was signed days before to the practice squad, when Wilson was injured.

I found this discouraging when it happened.

Both received little snaps for the season, James had 22, while Wallace had 8.

 
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Which is it?

Wallace sux? or Wallace was a pick who was projected to be good enough to be to protect on the roster for a full year?
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We do know that the 3rd rounders drafted by the last coach do indeed have to prove their worth in order to have a roster spot, especially of he isn't good enough to play even with 2 injuries at his position.
 
Family said:
It's not who played. It's who they dressed.

Against the Giants the Patriots called up Brenden James first, an offensive guard who was signed days before to the practice squad, when Wilson was injured.

I found this discouraging when it happened.

Both received little snaps for the season, James had 22, while Wallace had 8.

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Jaimes is a 5 year vet. 50 games under his belt
the team was in the playoff hunt
Wallace has played 0 games at OG. he has seen 6 games with snaps on offense (not ST)
yet he remained on the 53 all season
 
If Wallace is cut outright after this preseason these comments dancing around whether he was a good pick in the 3rd or not will be pretty funny.

He was projected at RT, he wasn’t good and was moved inside even though he isn’t mobile enough to be a great pulling guard.
 
rkarp1 said:
Jaimes is a 5 year vet. 50 games under his belt
the team was in the playoff hunt
Wallace has played 0 games at OG. he has seen 6 games with snaps on offense (not ST)
yet he remained on the 53 all season
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How many offensive guard 3rd round picks, don't last two seasons with the original team?

I bet not many.
 
Wozzy said:
We have a million examples of middle to late round draft picks developing into starters, but posters here still speak of it as being rare as a bigfoot sighting. I don’t get it?
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A ton of posters on here also do not believe that a player can improve from their rookie year if they were subpar
 
I am not here to be a Wallace aplogist
my only comment is that he had a good career at OT at PState.
he injured early his rookie season and did not play a lot
he then switched positions year 2
year 3, is huge for him. make or break.
the thought he will make, is that the staff had him on the 53 all year.
 
dliverey44 said:
A ton of posters on here also do not believe that a player can improve from their rookie year if they were subpar
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A prospect can improve if he has the athleticism, if he’s limited athletically he might carve out a role as a backup. If he has no athleticism he’s probably toast, even if it takes a minute.

When Wallace was taken, I said he was not a terrible, prospect. He had some good but not great athletic traits, but he wasn’t mobile and he was weak. They found Marcus Bryant, a similar but bigger stronger prospect next offseason in the 7th round.

Wallace in the third round was a reach, he was an end of draft prospect. It’s also telling that while Marcus Bryant didn’t play either, he at least stayed at his natural position at tackle. I’m more confident in Bryant than Wallace to make the roster this season.
 
rkarp1 said:
yet he didn't get any time at OC here
also, he left here and spent 2 years in Cleve, before finding success in Ariz.
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When he was here he was a constant holding call. Took him a while to work that out I guess. Andrews was just always injured. Sow was an enigma.
 
Wozzy said:
If Wallace is cut outright after this preseason these comments dancing around whether he was a good pick in the 3rd or not will be pretty funny.

He was projected at RT, he wasn’t good and was moved inside even though he isn’t mobile enough to be a great pulling guard.
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Yeah we don't two Onwenu's at Guard *Guys who can't pull*. We need a Guard who can get out of his own way.
 
dliverey44 said:
A ton of posters on here also do not believe that a player can improve from their rookie year if they were subpar
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I'll bet fingers and toes Wallace won't be the exception.
 
mgteich said:
I suspect that you say the same about WR's.
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Not as much so.

I don't have time to look it up, but how many WRs do you think are taken in the first round VS guards?

A third round pick is pretty high for a guard.
 
Wozzy said:
A prospect can improve if he has the athleticism, if he’s limited athletically he might carve out a role as a backup. If he has no athleticism he’s probably toast, even if it takes a minute.

When Wallace was taken, I said he was not a terrible, prospect. He had some good but not great athletic traits, but he wasn’t mobile and he was weak. They found Marcus Bryant, a similar but bigger stronger prospect next offseason in the 7th round.

Wallace in the third round was a reach, he was an end of draft prospect. It’s also telling that while Marcus Bryant didn’t play either, he at least stayed at his natural position at tackle. I’m more confident in Bryant than Wallace to make the roster this season.
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Yes, Bryant is 1 3/4" taller, but only 3lbs heavier. But how can you say that Bryant is stronger when Wallace has no Bench press results?

Also, you should note that Bryant's Short Shuttle and 3-cone results are actually worse than Wallace's. The 3 cone is pretty significantly worse.

No. Wallace wasn't an "End of Draft Prospect". He had ratings from the 3rd to 5th round.. I've debunked people on that numerous times.







 

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The playing time decisions they made last year indicate they don't think very much of his current level of player. Bringing in practice squad guys over him, for example.

The fact they kept him on the roster anyway indicates they see some developmental potential. By all accounts he's a full-on Guard now so it makes sense that they could want to continue developing him there even if they don't think he's any good now.

Seems like a good guy to bring to camp but also a guy who way more likely than not to flame out at this point IMO.
 
Hugepatsfan said:
The playing time decisions they made last year indicate they don't think very much of his current level of player. Bringing in practice squad guys over him, for example.

The fact they kept him on the roster anyway indicates they see some developmental potential. By all accounts he's a full-on Guard now so it makes sense that they could want to continue developing him there even if they don't think he's any good now.

Seems like a good guy to bring to camp but also a guy who way more likely than not to flame out at this point IMO.
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He's full on Guard who anointed him??
 
DaBruinz said:
Yes, Bryant is 1 3/4" taller, but only 3lbs heavier. But how can you say that Bryant is stronger when Wallace has no Bench press results?
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Wallace was healthy and afraid to bench, that means he was weak. This was reaffirmed on Forged In Foxboro when Vrabel called Wallace up to the front and asked him if he had been working out then tested him.
DaBruinz said:
Also, you should note that Bryant's Short Shuttle and 3-cone results are actually worse than Wallace's. The 3 cone is pretty significantly worse.

No. Wallace wasn't an "End of Draft Prospect". He had ratings from the 3rd to 5th round.. I've debunked people on that numerous times.
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Bryant’s forty, vertical, wingspan were better and their shuttles were close… and again, you’re comparing a third round pick to a seventh. Wallace was a reach.
 
seems Wallace is following his pre draft profile, and depending if he responds to coaching up his flaws, he could be a piece on the OL.

Scouting Report: Summary​

Caedan Wallace enters the NFL Draft as a seasoned edge protector with the functional athleticism required to succeed at the next level. His tape shows a tackle with the lateral mobility to slide and mirror pass rushers and the strength to anchor down against power moves. Wallace's ability to engage and drive through his blocks while maintaining leverage underscores his potential value in a zone-blocking scheme. However, his susceptibility to technique lapses, particularly against elite edge speed and quick inside moves, necessitates a focus on footwork and pad level.

In assessing Wallace’s potential fit at the pro level, his inconsistencies in pass set mechanics and tendency to play with elevated pads are concerning. These technical flaws often expose him to counter moves and diminish his otherwise solid base. While he shows promise in his ability to recover and reset his anchor, NFL defensive coordinators will undoubtedly test his perimeter protection skills. Transitioning Wallace inside could exploit his robust guard traits-his punch timing, core strength, and ability to climb to the second level-while shielding him from the more dynamic outside rush threats.

Ultimately, Wallace presents as a developmental prospect with the tools to grow into a versatile interior lineman or a swing tackle role. His draft stock hinges on teams’ evaluations of his ceiling as a flexible line option capable of adapting to both guard and tackle spots.
 
rkarp1 said:
seems Wallace is following his pre draft profile, and depending if he responds to coaching up his flaws, he could be a piece on the OL.

Scouting Report: Summary​

Caedan Wallace enters the NFL Draft as a seasoned edge protector with the functional athleticism required to succeed at the next level. His tape shows a tackle with the lateral mobility to slide and mirror pass rushers and the strength to anchor down against power moves. Wallace's ability to engage and drive through his blocks while maintaining leverage underscores his potential value in a zone-blocking scheme. However, his susceptibility to technique lapses, particularly against elite edge speed and quick inside moves, necessitates a focus on footwork and pad level.

In assessing Wallace’s potential fit at the pro level, his inconsistencies in pass set mechanics and tendency to play with elevated pads are concerning. These technical flaws often expose him to counter moves and diminish his otherwise solid base. While he shows promise in his ability to recover and reset his anchor, NFL defensive coordinators will undoubtedly test his perimeter protection skills. Transitioning Wallace inside could exploit his robust guard traits-his punch timing, core strength, and ability to climb to the second level-while shielding him from the more dynamic outside rush threats.

Ultimately, Wallace presents as a developmental prospect with the tools to grow into a versatile interior lineman or a swing tackle role. His draft stock hinges on teams’ evaluations of his ceiling as a flexible line option capable of adapting to both guard and tackle spots.
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We Need our Guard to be way more athletic: Caedan Wallace is not to be confused with that word.
 
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