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Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

A report indicating the Patriots are potentially in the market for this player, or have expressed or plant to express interest.
IF and only IF

I trust Vrabel to judge the future value of the pick (plus extra cap money) and the future value of Brown.

The is a 50% shot that the pick won't even be a starter.
There is a 100% shot Brown won't be a starter in 5 years, while there's a chance the player we drafted will be. That's the tradeoff that has to be weighed.
 
There is a 100% shot Brown won't be a starter in 5 years, while there's a chance the player we drafted will be. That's the tradeoff that has to be weighed.
This team made the Super Bowl last year. We are building for 2026, not 2031.
 
This team made the Super Bowl last year. We are building for 2026, not 2031.
So should we trade every 2026 draft pick for veterans that are more likely to contribute this year?
 
1. Who's coaching the team?

2. Who's the QB?

By your comment in A) you have no belief in the team this upcoming season?

The draft is a crap shoot. It's all projections no one knows anything until the players step on the field. Live in the here and now to solidify the future.
I certainly don't think they're going to the SB again given the schedule. Picking 31 would mean they did.

I'm all in favor of living in the here and now, I just don't think Brown is worth the draft capital PLUS the cap hit PLUS the possible ******** if he doesn't think he's getting enough touches. I don't think all that is worth it for a guy on the downside of his career who has a troublesome knee and trouble separating.
 
I certainly don't think they're going to the SB again given the schedule. Picking 31 would mean they did.

I'm all in favor of living in the here and now, I just don't think Brown is worth the draft capital PLUS the cap hit PLUS the possible ******** if he doesn't think he's getting enough touches. I don't think all that is worth it for a guy on the downside of his career who has a troublesome knee and trouble separating.
Fair enough. I have no problem with that as well. I'll ask though coming off back to back 4 wins seasons and the 32nd ranked OL with the 31st ranked offense would anyone had seen them in the superbowl this past year?

Whether they return is all up to how they compete each week. They have the 2 most important elements needed to do that coach & QB. They will have a shot each week to win.
 
So should we trade every 2026 draft pick for veterans that are more likely to contribute this year?
If various teams offered great value for each of our draft picks, then absolutely we should.

Of course, your ridiculous hypothetical is not even remotely in the realm of possibility, which only serves to show how poor your thesis is.
 
If various teams offered great value for each of our draft picks, then absolutely we should.

Of course, your ridiculous hypothetical is not even remotely in the realm of possibility, which only serves to show how poor your thesis is.
Even if various teams offered great value for each pick, bypassing an entire draft for veterans in year 2 for Vrabel would be awful.

The best run teams are built for this year AND the following years, that's my whole point.
 
NFL.com has an article speculating on what a Brown trade looks like

I'll leave it to the team to decide if Brown is worth 2 starters (#31 and Boutte) plus a potential contributor in the 4th but if they pass, I'm ok with that, keeping both of those starters and bringing back Diggs for less, while extending some of our good players with the leftover money


Patriots receive:

  • WR A.J. Brown
  • 2026 6th-round pick (No. 197 overall)
Eagles receive:

  • 2026 1st-round pick (No. 31)
  • 2026 4th-round pick (No. 125)
  • WR Kayshon Boutte
 
Even if various teams offered great value for each pick, bypassing an entire draft for veterans in year 2 for Vrabel would be awful.
It is a ridiculously unrealistic notion that we are going to trade 10 draft picks for 10 players. Your hypothetical is nonsense.

Fact remains we made the Super Bowl last year. This is not a team in rebuilding mode. This is a team looking for a piece or two to get them over the hump. Spending a draft pick or two to achieve that is a perfectly valid strategy.
 
NFL.com has an article speculating on what a Brown trade looks like

I'll leave it to the team to decide if Brown is worth 2 starters (#31 and Boutte) plus a potential contributor in the 4th but if they pass, I'm ok with that, keeping both of those starters and bringing back Diggs for less, while extending some of our good players with the leftover money


Patriots receive:

  • WR A.J. Brown
  • 2026 6th-round pick (No. 197 overall)
Eagles receive:

  • 2026 1st-round pick (No. 31)
  • 2026 4th-round pick (No. 125)
  • WR Kayshon Boutte
No way I do that trade
 
No way I do that trade
It's a weird article because after they go on about how it will cost Philly an extra $30 mil in dead cap space by trading him before the 2026 draft, they go on to offer scenarios in which the trade takes place before the draft

Unless Philly is thinking the Pats are going to win the Super Bowl next season, they'd get a better pick by waiting until 2027

And if they're waiting until after the draft then getting a WR in return makes more sense - but likely NOT with 2 draft picks in 2027

I'd think a post-draft trade for one of our WRs and next year's 1st rounder and maybe a later draft pick than 4th round would get it done.
 
Damn, vrabel hanging out with rusinni at the pool. She's been the#1 source of aj speculation.

Guess she's getting her info from the man himself
 
It is a ridiculously unrealistic notion that we are going to trade 10 draft picks for 10 players. Your hypothetical is nonsense.

Fact remains we made the Super Bowl last year. This is not a team in rebuilding mode. This is a team looking for a piece or two to get them over the hump. Spending a draft pick or two to achieve that is a perfectly valid strategy.
It's valid depending on the draft picks used. The above proposed trade of a 1st, 4th and Boutte for Brown and a 6th would be terrible.

The Pats won the Super Bowl in 2001, and on paper, got better or at the very least didn't get worse, at pretty much every position. Brady was clearly greatly improved but the magic was gone for the defense that held their last 9 opponents to 17 points or less in 2001. The rush defense was 2nd to last in the league.

The Pats earned their Super Bowl appearance last year, but we can't ignore the continuous run of good fortune on their way there. Tampa Bay didn't have Evans or Godwin. Cincy was missing Burrow and Chase. They faced a soft stretch on their schedule when the defense was beat up. We played the Texans without Collins and Schultz for most of the game. Denver didn't have Bo Nix. You can make a case that we're indeed a piece or two away from getting over the hump if it all goes right. You can just as easily make a case that with a few key injuries and a tougher schedule, they go 9-8, even if Brown is added. That's why I'm more inclined to keep building up our talent and depth through the draft. But if Brown can be a acquired for a single 3rd or 4th round pick? Jump on it.
 
It's valid depending on the draft picks used. The above proposed trade of a 1st, 4th and Boutte for Brown and a 6th would be terrible.
Yes, that would be too much. But I do not believe a first rounder is. Brown is the type of player you hope to get with first rounders, and we have the cap to absorb his hit.
The Pats earned their Super Bowl appearance last year,
End of statement. The rest is just what the haters were whining about all year long. Sad to see how you've joined them.
 
Damn, vrabel hanging out with rusinni at the pool. She's been the#1 source of aj speculation.

Guess she's getting her info from the man himself
Pretty obscure place to be in order to pass it all off as a coincidence...
 
It is a ridiculously unrealistic notion that we are going to trade 10 draft picks for 10 players. Your hypothetical is nonsense.

Fact remains we made the Super Bowl last year. This is not a team in rebuilding mode. This is a team looking for a piece or two to get them over the hump. Spending a draft pick or two to achieve that is a perfectly valid strategy.
The Pats did indeed make the SB, but with a whole lot of luck along the way.

They are a much improved team but still more of a rebuilding team than a ready to win now SB contender.

The Pats didn’t make a trade at the trade deadline, which should tell you how close to being a legitimate SB contender Vrabel thinks they are.

I am confident Vrabel and company see past the fool’s gold of the ahead of schedule SB appearance, and will continue to build the team for consistent contention.
 
NFL.com has an article speculating on what a Brown trade looks like

I'll leave it to the team to decide if Brown is worth 2 starters (#31 and Boutte) plus a potential contributor in the 4th but if they pass, I'm ok with that, keeping both of those starters and bringing back Diggs for less, while extending some of our good players with the leftover money


Patriots receive:

  • WR A.J. Brown
  • 2026 6th-round pick (No. 197 overall)
Eagles receive:

  • 2026 1st-round pick (No. 31)
  • 2026 4th-round pick (No. 125)
  • WR Kayshon Boutte
That's an insane trade. Cowden would get rightfully roasted for it.
 
The Pats did indeed make the SB, but with a whole lot of luck along the way.
You show me a team in the Super Bowl and I'll show you a team who had a lot of luck along the way.

I mean, seriously.... did you see how the Seahawks beat the Rams in week 16 to help them clinch HFA? That's probably the single luckiest play in the NFL since the Tuck Rule.
They are a much improved team but still more of a rebuilding team than a ready to win now SB contender.

The Pats didn’t make a trade at the trade deadline, which should tell you how close to being a legitimate SB contender Vrabel thinks they are.
That doesn't tell any of us a single thing except the fact that no good deal presented itself.
 
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