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TreVeyon Henderson chomping at the bit to openly denigrate “unrighteous” LGBT community

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Because context and intent matters. I would ask specifically what your issue with pride night is that you find morally reprehensible. I have no problem saying what I find about Trump to be morally reprehensible and why I wouldn't support that.
I didn’t leave, I enjoyed the game & ignored
the pride celebrations

I also don’t celebrate the Chinese New Years, because I am not Chinese.

If Biden was at the game, I would have stayed just to boo him
 
Religion may be just an excuse for you, and virtually none existent for me, but there are plenty of people that are simply very religious and follow all its interpretations...different people, different values, different opinions...
There are. However, just because it's religious and in a book that people think came from god doesn't mean the ideas and promotion of said ideas can't be reprehensible or bigoted.

The bible explicitly allows for the ownership of slaves. If some player went around arguing they should be allowed to own slaves, are we all just not allowed to say they are reprehensible and morally awful because it's in the Bible and now under some religious shield that puts it beyond reproach.

Are we going to extend that same thing to Qur'an which is also a religious book and say we have to bite our tongue if some sports player talks about his desire for jihad against non believers or the unequal treatment of women?

At the end of the day a particular bigoted or hateful belief someone has is fair game to call out if they want to use a public platform to air it out to the world.

At the end of the day, Henderson used his platform to make a statement. Others have commented on that statement. The coach was forced to comment on that statement.
 
I didn’t leave, I enjoyed the game & ignored
the pride celebrations

I also don’t celebrate the Chinese New Years, because I am not Chinese.

If Biden was at the game, I would have stayed just to boo him
That doesn't really answer my questions though about what the intent was. Do you just not like rainbows or something?
 
Kraft has also criticized the President publicly and called him divisive. The last Patriots coach refused a Presidential Medal of Freedom. The Patriots as an organization have never promoted the policies of said President and blasted them out to the fanbase and made supporting the Patriots synonymous with support for that messaging.
Belichick probably didnt want the medal, because it means very little after Bill Gates & George Soros received it

They turned the award into …. Herpes
 
Kraft has also criticized the President publicly and called him divisive. The last Patriots coach refused a Presidential Medal of Freedom. The Patriots as an organization have never promoted the policies of said President and blasted them out to the fanbase and made supporting the Patriots synonymous with support for that messaging.
So then just out of curiosity, what is you opinion on teams engaging in partisan political messaging?

A) They shouldn't do it, or
B) It's perfectly fine as long as I agree with it
 
So then just out of curiosity, what is you opinion on teams engaging in partisan political messaging?

A) They shouldn't do it, or
B) It's perfectly fine as long as I agree with it
It depends on the message.

I think most people could find some difference between a team promoting something like stopping hate or donating to the needy or religious tolerance or equality amongst sexes and something more controversial like "abortion should be outlawed".

I personally would rather teams remain neutral so I don't have to think about it. But if they are going to try to promote things, then it's a case by case basis depending on the content.
 
That doesn't really answer my questions though about what the intent was. Do you just not like rainbows or something?

I am not gay, and I am not Irish
The Pride Flag holds the same value as St Patrick’s day in my life

Not something I celebrate
I never get excited seeing the leprechaun at the Celtics game.

I go because I like basketball
 
I am not gay, and I am not Irish
The Pride Flag holds the same value as St Patrick’s day in my life

Not something I celebrate
I never get excited seeing the leprechaun at the Celtics game.

I go because I like basketball
I'm not Irish. But if on St Patrick's Day week the Celtics have some Irish heritage celebration, I'm not going to lose my mind over it and leave because some culture that isn't mine is being promoted. If they did an Italian heritage day and I enjoyed it but then I didn't show that same tolerance to other people for the 3 minutes it's relevant at halftime, I'd feel like a hypocrite.
 
It depends on the message.

I think most people could find some difference between a team promoting something like stopping hate or donating to the needy or religious tolerance or equality amongst sexes and something more controversial like "abortion should be outlawed".

I personally would rather teams remain neutral so I don't have to think about it. But if they are going to try to promote things, then it's a case by case basis depending on the content.
Yeah, the extreme, but very simple solution would be for leagues to stop promoting or supporting literally everything. Don't support the military, BLM, law enforcement, LGBT, all of it.
 
We all get treated badly at times. For all kinds of reasons. I do, you do. Man, that's life. And I'm sure it happens occaisionally for lgbtq reasons, but I just haven't seen it in public.

I know a couple of lesbians. They're not together, I know them separately. I get along with them and they're nice to me. I've never witnessed them being mistreated. And yes, We should treat each other right.
It's not just about someone treating you badly to your face. It wasn't until 2003 same sex activity was made LEGAL in every state. I'm 34 years old (I think one of the younger posters here) and I grew up in a school where people would use "gay" as an insult for things that had nothing to do with homosexuality and I know that wasn't uncommon. All of us here have to admit that we've live in a world where there was stigma around homosexuality and trans. And stigma leads to subconscious bias.

It's not just about someone yelling the F word at two gay men holding hands. It's about a CEO interviewing a flamboyant gay man for a CFO position and having subconscious bias that he wouldn't be a good leader because of stereotypes that he grew up around over the years. The only way you fight those subconscious biases and stigmas is to vocalize against them. It needs to be ingrained in people that while you're free to think whatever you want, gay or trans people deserve all the same opportunity professionally and the same respect personally regardless of how you feel. That has not been the message that people in the country today grew up with and you have to fight that in some way. It's ignorant to pretend that subconscious bias and stigma just go poof because a law changed.
 
Yeah, the extreme, but very simple solution would be for leagues to stop promoting or supporting literally everything. Don't support the military, BLM, law enforcement, LGBT, all of it.
This. I'd rather sports abstain from it because frankly sports aren't all that equipped to deal with it. But if they are going to, I get to have my own opinion based on the content.
 
This isn't about "marginizing" anyone. You people want biological men in womens' sports (and womens' spaces). That is something I will never support. You have no response to that but the usual left wing name calling of "-phobe" and "bigot".

To quote you: We just wish the gays would shut the **** up and just keep their views to themselves and not use it as an excuse to marginalize or disrespect others.
I don't support biological men in women's sports. If you want my views on the matter look up what Bob Costas said recently about us because he phrased it perfectly IMO. And funny enough, unlike Ivey for his comments, I don't think he's getting fired for his. Why is that? It's because this idea that people are villainized for those type of takes Costas made is silly propaganda. Trans and gay people present some unique "challenges" for rules and practices that are gender-based and there's room for healthy, respectful disagreement on some of those circumstances. People don't get villainized for that. They get villainized for saying being gay is "unrighteous" like Ivey did because that's not policy, that's not law, that's not nuance... that's just passing moral judgement on someone and hatefully saying they're bad for the way are.
 
It's not just about someone treating you badly to your face. It wasn't until 2003 same sex activity was made LEGAL in every state. I'm 34 years old (I think one of the younger posters here) and I grew up in a school where people would use "gay" as an insult for things that had nothing to do with homosexuality and I know that wasn't uncommon. All of us here have to admit that we've live in a world where there was stigma around homosexuality and trans. And stigma leads to subconscious bias.

It's not just about someone yelling the F word at two gay men holding hands. It's about a CEO interviewing a flamboyant gay man for a CFO position and having subconscious bias that he wouldn't be a good leader because of stereotypes that he grew up around over the years. The only way you fight those subconscious biases and stigmas is to vocalize against them. It needs to be ingrained in people that while you're free to think whatever you want, gay or trans people deserve all the same opportunity professionally and the same respect personally regardless of how you feel. That has not been the message that people in the country today grew up with and you have to fight that in some way. It's ignorant to pretend that subconscious bias and stigma just go poof because a law changed.
I know you will disagree. But personally I think there should be a stigma for sin again. Things were much better in our nation when some things were frowned upon. Cheating on your spouse, getting drunk, doing drugs, hetero promiscuity, homosexuality and trans. A social stigma can hold back the tide somewhat. And we're in this era now where tolerance is on steroids, anything goes and our society is worse off for it.

Obviously to you the lgbtq isn't a sin or a problem in your eyes, and some of those you would agree with me on.
 
For the 1,000th time, this is a sports fan forum, not a political forum.
And it's not a religion forum either

There are hundreds and hundreds of websites out there that will be more than happy to have you debate politics and religion.
Per the owner of this website, this is not one of them.

How difficult is that to understand?
 
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