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2026 Draft: EDGE

manxman2601 said:
Here's an image of the spreadsheet I made so you can look at the data yourself.

Just a word on the number of moves section.

1. No of Moves - The total number of individual pass rush moves an edge rusher has had at least one win with.

2. No of Moves 3+ - Used to filter out pass rush moves a ass rusher rarely wins with.

3. No of moves 5+ - Used to identify the most common moves a pass rusher wins with.

So using the Rueben Bain Card above.

1. He uses 13 different pass rush moves.

2. However he only had 1 win each with two of them so they get taken out.

3. He had 10 different moves where he got more than 5 wins.

The spreadsheet. Feel free to ask me anything.

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Out of curiosity, have you cross referenced his ratings from last year to the players rookie production? I know that team and scheme have a lot to do with production but it interests me in pre draft rookie rankings and actual NFL production.

I guess its the search for actual relevant information because there are so many data points out there that it can cause confusion
 
dliverey44 said:
Out of curiosity, have you cross referenced his ratings from last year to the players rookie production? I know that team and scheme have a lot to do with production but it interests me in pre draft rookie rankings and actual NFL production.

I guess its the search for actual relevant information because there are so many data points out there that it can cause confusion
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I don't think he did it last year. He's slowly expanding what he's doing.
 
Slacker.
 
My EDGE tiers:

1. Top 10 picks

- Arvell Reese
- David Bailey
- Rueben Bain

2. Top 25 picks

- Keldric Faulk
- Akheem Mesidor

3. Top 50 picks

- Dani Dennis-Sutton
- Malachi Lawrence
- TJ Parker
- Gabe Jacas
- Zion Young

4. Top 100 picks

- Derrick Moore
- Keyron Crawford
- Jonathan Joseph

Would trongly consider using 31 on groups 1 and 2, 63 on group 3, 95 on group 4.
 
Pressure Rate = Pass rush snaps/total pressures

Arvell Reese - 4.41 pass rush snaps per pressure
Trey Moore - 4.44
David Bailey - 4.69
Keyshawn James-Newby - 5.15
Nadame Tucker - 5.18
Keyron Crawford - 5.58
Romello Height - 5.65
Malachi Lawrence - 5.70
Derrick Moore - 5.71
Joshua Josephs - 5.72
Zion Young - 5.72
Dani Dennis-Sutton - 6.27
Mason Reiger - 6.49
Caden Curry - 6.54
Akheem Mesidor - 6.64
Rueben Bain - 6.71
Max Llewellyn - 6.80
R Mason Thomas - 6.82
Gabe Jacas - 7.12
Cashius Howell - 7.29
Jaishawn Barham - 7.71
TJ Parker - 7.90
Vincent Anthony Jr - 10.09
Keldric Faulk - 10.53
LT Overton - 10.67

The ones in bold jumped out at me as being impressive, almost surprisingly so. Trey Moore is the dude.

Howell, Jacas and Parker disappointing.
 
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Sack Rate = Pass rush snaps/ sacks

Arvell Reese - 14.88 pass rush snaps per sack
Derrick Moore - 21.27
Nadame Tucker - 22.57
Gabe Jacas - 24.33
Cashius Howell - 24.92
Caden Curry - 25.08
David Bailey - 25.33
TJ Parker (2024) - 31.08 (included this to show his potential upside)
R Mason Thomas - 31.83
Malachi Lawrence - 32.57
Akheem Mesidor - 34.23
Joshua Josephs - 36.60
Keyshawn James-Newby - 38.10
Romello Height - 38.89
Dani Dennis-Sutton - 40.0
Trey Moore - 40.0
Zion Young - 40.75
Vincent Anthony - 46.14
Rueben Bain - 46.42
Keyron Crawford - 48
Mason Reiger - 48.67
Max Llewellyn - 51.0
LT Overton - 51.20
Jaishawn Barham - 54.0
TJ Parker (2025) - 54.0
Keldric Faulk - 158.0

Derrick Moore stands out again with a big improvement for Gabe Jacas. Joshua Josephs has been consistent.
 
Water Boy said:
Would you take him at 31?

No way he's still on the board by pick 63 IMO.
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I've put out my updated big board for the Pats.

DDS and Treydan Stukes are the top 2 players in my 2nd tier - guys I wpuld prefer not to take at 31, but wpuld take 2nd round - with a trade back from 31 or trade up from 63. I could see them being options at 31, but not my preference.
 
Such a harder task drafting at the end of each round. I'm going to lose my ****ing mind watching the players that come off the board between 31 and 63.
 
Water Boy said:
Such a harder task drafting at the end of each round. I'm going to lose my ****ing mind watching the players that come off the board between 31 and 63.
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Still, picking at the end of each round does have some compensation.
 
Water Boy said:
Would you take him at 31?

No way he's still on the board by pick 63 IMO.
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He could be there at 63.
He seems to be ranked anywhere between 12-20th for Edge players.
Definitely a possibility he is gone, but I would say it’s about a 50/50 chance.
 
The data that Manx posted above just highlight how much Bain sucks and should probably drop into the late 20s. Please
 
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