Player Signing Romeo Doubs Signs

PatsFan2 said:

Zachariah Branch is an exciting player...plays Bigger than his listed 5'8 size

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Maye seems to be an "overthrower". He likes big targets and the long ball

If he can make the short game, great. I really hope it is the case.

But I dont follow College games, so ill be trusting you on this

Ollie said:

With a 55% pressure rate in the SB I'm not sure a playmaker alone in that game would have made much difference, i'm not saying it wouldn't help overall but the O line was the major problem in the SB

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I did say the line was more at fault

But if we had a good short route WR guy, it would also help (if Maye look his way)

Put it like this, if Edelman was playing, I think we would have done better

JayNM said:

I did say the line was more at fault

But if we had a good short route WR guy, it would also help (if Maye look his way)

Put it like this, if Edelman was playing, I think we would have don

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festy1986 said:

You're just not following the thread. It's pretty simple. Click on the bubble quotes and it takes you all the way back to the original one in one long chain that will help you understand what you refuse to see for your self.

I said he was OFERPAID like a 1 when it was reported at 23 mil a year.

I said he was a 3 being paid like a 2 when that number came down to 17 mil a season.

I said if Doubs is a 2 then we already have a 2 in Boutte because their numbers are essentially identical.

I hope that was helpful for you to understand the chain of events here because I had no less than 3 of you quoting me over and over all trying to make different points because you felt some kind of way that I said he's a 3.

It's fine. His production WILL go up because he's going to be the number 1 as of right now.

It isn't going to take a lot to impress anyone here though given he only has to match Diggs numbers which really shouldn't be hard to do.

I've said from the start though that it doesn't matter because AJ will be here and with a true number 1 it'll make everyone around him better.

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You clearly said a lot and confused a few people as well as me but even this synopsis is confusing and makes very little sense. I still don't know whether you think he is a 2 or a 3.

Ollie said:

You clearly said a lot and confused a few people as well as me but even this synopsis is confusing and makes very little sense. I still don't know whether you think he is a 2 or a 3.

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You'll be alright. Trust the process.

Give Kraft A Hand said:

This is the problem. The playoffs exposed the offense as not good enough. Right now it’s more or less the same. Still early I guess but if they can’t get AJ Brown or someone similar I can’t see them going that far unless they get a playmaker or Henderson emerges. I also can’t see them using 31 on a WR given their issues at Edge.

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I am absolutely confused when people say the offense is about the same as in the SB. They brought in a better LG than what we had in the SB, Center positioned is unanswered but honestly Bradbury wasn't much so I will call it a wash. They have a much better Full back and a better blocking TE as well as a WR that excels in the RZ.

In theory the run game should be improved and the blocking should be better for Maye.

I don't buy the argument that Maye likes tall receivers because he throws the ball high. I think it's smart to throw the ball "high" when possible to try to keep it away from defenders. At the short end...he's throwing high to Douglas and at the tall end...he's thowing high to Hollins (WR's). I don't know about you but I saw several passes to Hollins where he had to climb multiple ladders to get the ball. I don't think it's a flaw or preference....It's smart to throw high.

Zuma said:

I don't buy the argument that Maye likes tall receivers because he throws the ball high. I think it's smart to throw the ball "high" when possible to try to keep it away from defenders. At the short end...he's throwing high to Douglas and at the tall end...he's thowing high to Hollins (WR's). I don't know about you but I saw several passes to Hollins where he had to climb multiple ladders to get the ball. I don't think it's a flaw or preference....It's smart to throw high.

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I don't think he likes to throw the ball high either.
I will say that he did have a habit of throwing high early in games, especially the first half of the season, he did get better at it later.
But I don't think he threw those high on purpose, just took him a while to settle in on his accuracy on those particular days.
No one throws the ball high on purpose to a guy who's wide open 10 yards away.

DoubleDeluxe said:

I will say that he did have a habit of throwing high early in games, especially the first half of the season, he did get better at it later.

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Yes totally. I contribute that to having early yips / jitters. I noticed he threw the ball around more with Vrabes and others when taking the field for the 1st series....I think that was to help with that issue IMO.

Zuma said:

Yes totally. I contribute that to having early yips / jitters. I noticed he threw the ball around more with Vrabes and others when taking the field for the 1st series....I think that was to help with that issue IMO.

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Spot on.
Before the first Bills game I mentioned that I hope Maye doesn't come out too amped up, as it was the biggest game of his career in Primetime.
To which of course Ring said I was "projecting failure" on Maye.
Whatever the hell that means.

DoubleDeluxe said:

Spot on.
Before the first Bills game I mentioned that I hope Maye doesn't come out too amped up, as it was the biggest game of his career in Primetime.
To which of course Ring said I was "projecting failure" on Maye.
Whatever the hell that means.

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Andy is one of a kind.

40yrpatsfan said:

In the context of the offense in general:
- WR: Doubs (26) overall is a step up from Diggs. Hollins (32) can give us 1 more year of that. Boutte (24) will continue his rise. Kyle Williams (23) will become a factor. Pop & Chism - should improve but not sure.
- OL: Campbell (22) will improve and be past the knee injury. Vera-Tucker (27) is a dominant LG. Wilson (23) will be a better center than guard. Gilliam (29) is a top fullback, Hill (26) is a legit blocking TE. The running game will be much better, and I think pass pro also.
- RB: Rham (28) and Henderson (23) should look better with the improved line.

We need a TE, RB, OL depth, and a decent kick returner.

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I think the additions the Pats have made in Gilliam and Hill will pay dividends in the Kick Return game. BOTH play on that unit. If Vrabel goes back to having a RB do the returning, it's likely that Terrell Jennings or Lan Larison will be doing the KRs. Larison has experience in college doing KRs and was excellent including a 4 return-211 yard performance against Chism's Eastern Washington Univeristy. Terrell Jennings showed good ability on his 2 returns last year.

I don't know that KR will be a big priority. The Pats will likely add a RB later in the draft or as a UDFA depending on what they feel Larison can offer and how many they think they'll carry on the pro-roster this year. They only carried 3 most of the year and 2 at the end with Johnson being a game-day elevation for 3 games and the play-offs.

I agree that we'll see OG and OT added in the draft.. There are some very good OC/OG prospects who should be available late that could provide insurance along the IOL.

slash83 said:

If this is their answer to helping Drake the front office is a joke, would rather have Diggs if it weren’t to his legal issues.

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This is completely myopic. You can cry about the individual signings all you want, but if you look closer at what they have done for the offense as a unit overall they have made good signings with a purpose, and that purpose is to get tougher and improve their run game. Vera-Tucker, Hill, Gilliam, and moving Wilson to center make this a much better blocking unit, and improve each of their positions considerably. Bradbury was a liability in the run game, and rated 25 of starting centers in run blocking in the league. Wilson's natural position is Center, and moving him there gives them a bigger more physical Center than Bradbury was. Alijah Vera-Tucker is an outstanding guard, and is a big upgrade over Wilson at the Position. And if either go down Ben Brown is there to back them up. Hill is known to be a very good blocking TE with a serious mean streak, and Gillian is one of the best pure fullbacks in the league, and a force in the run game. So while they didn't sign any flashy offensive players, they systematically went about making the offense tougher and nastier so as to punish opposing defenses in the run game, and that will help Maye tremendously, especially when they play the best defenses in the league,

Doubs is a good addition to their WR room, and there is a distinct possibility that either Diggs or Brown will be added to the unit.

Have they accomplished everything, no. Have they added a bunch of good players who can really help the offense, yes. Is there work left to do, yes. Do they have the rest of the offseason to get it done, yes.

PatsFan2 said:

No he doesn't!

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Ok 2, that makes you the only person in America who thinks that Calvin Ridley, his 92 million $$$ contract, and his 17 receptions, 303 yards, and 0 touchdowns, was a good signing. You're a genius.

Oh Romeo… hope you help us get Doubs-le digit wins again

slash83 said:

If this is their answer to helping Drake the front office is a joke, would rather have Diggs if it weren’t to his legal issues.

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*SMH*

Gilliam > Westover
Vera-Tucker > Wilson
Hill better blocker than Hooper.

That's 3 very big improvements on the offense. If you don't understand that, then that's a you problem and you would need to improve your understanding of the game.

JayNM said:

Maye seems to be an "overthrower". He likes big targets and the long ball

If he can make the short game, great. I really hope it is the case.

But I dont follow College games, so ill be trusting you on this

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Jay, are you on drugs? Are you ok?

Trusting Patsfans2's views on football only works if you want to impress your friends with how little you know about it. His most current takes have him insisting that Calvin Ridley is worth his 92 million contract( 17 Rec., 303 yards, 0 touchdowns.) And he wants the Patriots to go after Brandon Aiyuk, who just signed a 4 year $120 million$$$ deal and then refused to show up for work with the 49ers. Patsfans 2 insists Aiyuk was getting the " 49er stink off of himself," I assume that stink is the smell of the massive signing bonus they gave him to drive his car 100 mph past their facility.

DaBruinz said:

*SMH*

Gilliam > Westover
Vera-Tucker > Wilson
Hill better blocker than Hooper.

That's 3 very big improvements on the offense. If you don't understand that, then that's a you problem and you would need to improve your understanding of the game.

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I didn’t say a single word about any of those players not being an upgrade.

Huckleberry1 said:

Jay, are you on drugs? Are you ok?

Trusting Patsfans2's views on football only works if you want to impress your friends with how little you know about it. His most current takes have him insisting that Calvin Ridley is worth his 92 million contract( 17 Rec., 303 yards, 0 touchdowns.) And he wants the Patriots to go after Brandon Aiyuk, who just signed a 4 year $120 million$$$ deal and then refused to show up for work with the 49ers. Patsfans 2 insists Aiyuk was getting the " 49er stink off of himself," I assume that stink is the smell of the massive signing bonus they gave him to drive his car 100 mph past their facility.

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I'm surprised you're not asking of Wolf's head.

JayNM said:

If we upgrade at TE and at slot, I think we have a good receiver corps.

but it should be said that Edelman was better than all receivers we have now, and Gronk was, for all intents and purposes, our #1 guy, and a elite one at that.

It's difficult to win in the playoff is the guys running the field cant creat plays. This 2025 playoffs is more than enough proff, Seahawks and even Denver threw us off because not one guy could escape their coverages

I hope we draft a TE early, and then get another shot at a Douglas/Chism upgrade in later rounds

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well, geez, edelman and gronk is a pretty high standard! Gronk is the TE GOAT (F Kelce, not really close). But Edelman at his peak was basically uncoverable. Agree that we need a young TE for hunter (but he ain't dead yet) ... maybe chism is the slot guy?

Huckleberry1 said:

Jay, are you on drugs? Are you ok?

Trusting Patsfans2's views on football only works if you want to impress your friends with how little you know about it. His most current takes have him insisting that Calvin Ridley is worth his 92 million contract( 17 Rec., 303 yards, 0 touchdowns.) And he wants the Patriots to go after Brandon Aiyuk, who just signed a 4 year $120 million$$$ deal and then refused to show up for work with the 49ers. Patsfans 2 insists Aiyuk was getting the " 49er stink off of himself," I assume that stink is the smell of the massive signing bonus they gave him to drive his car 100 mph past their facility.

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lol

regarding College ball, I trust anyone's intake as much as the other guy. I trully have no dog in this fight since Hingle McCringleberry and Jammie Jammie-Jammie were picked