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Player Signing Romeo Doubs Signs

You didn’t answer my question so I’ll do the same

I did answer the question. Hew giving you the same production as boutte for over 4 times the price.

Also he failed to reach even 50 yards in half his games last year.

But sure. More volume makes him a number 1.
 
If you don't understand that Boutte is on a rookie 6th rd contract then I don't know what to tell you.

Oh I understand. You're telling me that come next year he's going to cost us the contract Doubs just signed.

Hard pass.
 
You have to understand that we needed someone who can be there for next couple of years. If we lose Boutte next year , doubs can be the Boutte insurance for 2027 and be wr2. We might have two wr 2 this year and potentially a good one in Williams as wr 2 or wr3. No team can defend 3 wr2.

Now hypothetically if you did not sign doubs what is your negotiating power with say eagles or saints. Won't we be forced into drafting for need on top 3 rounds as opposed to drafting BPA now.

Ok let's come to the argument we should have kept diggs. At what cost - 20 million ? Is he worth that at age 33 ? I really doubt that . Why is diggs still unsigned ?

Tbh , this was the only possible option for us to be able to deal our cards properly against eagles and saints in case of a trade and also not force fit any draft pick .

There are no wide receivers who are getting paid 10-12 million who have over 500 yards . That's the going rate .

Either you have a wr 1 and have 4 rookies or receives on vet minimum contracts or you have multiple wr 2 . We opted for the latter and that's enough. Josh operates on wr by committee mode and doubs fits the bill . It's not a agholor kinda signing . It's a safe and above average signing. We might have overpaid by 3-4 million a year but the flexibility it affords is insane.

So please rationalize before spewing venom on this . If you are against it, please tell us what trade was available to us that we did not take. Pittman wouldn't have been traded by colts to us after what Josh did to them and the traditional rivalry between colts and pats.

Why is it Venum to say he's not a number 2?

He can reach number 2 levels if they have a legitimate number 1 on the other side.

Not to mention I said what I said when I was under the understanding that he signed at 3 years at 68 mil.

There's a pretty big difference between 17 mil a year and 23.

I can live with 17.
 
I did answer the question. Hew giving you the same production as boutte for over 4 times the price.

Also he failed to reach even 50 yards in half his games last year.

But sure. More volume makes him a number 1.
So obviously cutting Diggs was the correct move, right? He failed to reach 50 yards 14 times in 21 games.
 
The deal is $68M plus incentives. He is well worth $68M over 4 years.
The thing that stands out to me is that this is basically the exact contract that they’d likely sign Boutte to in an extension, but they gave it to Doubs instead. Makes me think perhaps Boutte is not long for the roster, I don’t think they’ll also pay Boutte too. I could be wrong.
 
So obviously cutting Diggs was the correct move, right? He failed to reach 50 yards 14 times in 21 games.
Worrying about his stats is stupid when Green Bay does not make game plans that highlight specific players. Their best guys will go whole games with little to no targets at times.

You also need to realize - Just because a player didn’t get yards doesn’t mean he wasn’t doing a good job. For much of 2025 the Packers were without Jayden Reed, Christian Watson, Matthew Golden… their WR corps were decimated, Doubs was the only guy who could stay healthy and teams definitely tried to put the clamps on him. He also had to play with Malik Willis as his QB for a stretch. A lot of things went wrong, he still put out about 800 yards.
 
I did answer the question. Hew giving you the same production as boutte for over 4 times the price.

Also he failed to reach even 50 yards in half his games last year.

But sure. More volume makes him a number 1.
He is not the same type of player as Boutte. Boutte is more of a big play threat. Doubs is more well rounded.
I do like Boutte. Doubs is more in the Digg’s role.
Using stats from players on different teams is confusing. I meant what about his game is alarming as far as physical skills that won’t gel in the Patriots system
And yes I do think he is a 2. Plays well in clutch games also. But he is not a 1 as Smith says. But he is being payed as a 2
 
Why is it Venum to say he's not a number 2?

He can reach number 2 levels if they have a legitimate number 1 on the other side.

Not to mention I said what I said when I was under the understanding that he signed at 3 years at 68 mil.

There's a pretty big difference between 17 mil a year and 23.

I can live with 17.


Some chatgpt inputs


In the 2025 NFL regular season, Romeo Doubs (WR for the Green Bay Packers) finished:

  • 724 receiving yards
  • 55 receptions
  • 6 receiving touchdowns
  • 16 games played

League ranking (receiving yards)​

  • 43rd in the NFL in receiving yards during the 2025 regular season.

Extra context​

  • Among qualified wide receivers, he ranked roughly 33rd in receiving yards.
  • He also led the Packers in receiving yards that season.



Why is it Venum to say he's not a number 2?

He can reach number 2 levels if they have a legitimate number 1 on the other side.

Not to mention I said what I said when I was under the understanding that he signed at 3 years at 68 mil.

There's a pretty big difference between 17 mil a year and 23.

I can live with 17.

We are not yet in a position to make splashy trades when we got 2 all pro after close to a decade. So we signed a safe wr2 without expending any assets .

Wr2 is from rank 33 - 55. We got someone who is probably in top 40 wide receivers and 17 million is league average for that ranking unless it is a rookie wage. So huge props for the front office.
 
Oh I understand. You're telling me that come next year he's going to cost us the contract Doubs just signed.

Hard pass.
If Boutte has a productive season he will be in the same ballpark.
$17M for a WR is average money.
Doubs contract is about right for what he is.
 
The thing that stands out to me is that this is basically the exact contract that they’d likely sign Boutte to in an extension, but they gave it to Dobbs instead. Makes me think perhaps Boutte is not long for the roster, I don’t think they’ll also pay Boutte too. I could be wrong.
I agree. I can't imagine that Boutte or Douglas is long for the roster. Doubs, Hollins for a year or two, Williams, and a new #1, maybe in the draft this year (or next), plus a Slot like Chism (who I am not big on), and new TEs.

Lots of work to do when we need EDGE, RT, RG, and coverage LB and coverage FS. It has only been one year so there is a long ways to go yet.
 
I agree. I can't imagine that Boutte or Douglas is long for the roster. Doubs, Hollins for a year or two, Williams, and a new #1, maybe in the draft this year (or next), plus a Slot like Chism (who I am not big on), and new TEs.

Lots of work to do when we need EDGE, RT, RG, and coverage LB and coverage FS. It has only been one year so there is a long ways to go yet.
I agree. Imagine knowing that is true and we made it to the SB last year
 
The thing that stands out to me is that this is basically the exact contract that they’d likely sign Boutte to in an extension, but they gave it to Dobbs instead. Makes me think perhaps Boutte is not long for the roster, I don’t think they’ll also pay Boutte too. I could be wrong.

You hit the nail on its head. They would have given this to Boutte or diggs. But now that diggs is not there , they have given it to a younger player and stating to Boutte that he would need to get similar production to get this kind of contract.

This will motivate Boutte to work harder and be a bonafide wr 2 . And if he performs well, we can do a in season extension like how we did for Marcus .

Multiple benefits of this signing

1. Motivate Boutte to perform this year
2. Act as Boutte insurance if he leaves next year
3. Make sure we get 80% of diggs production at 60% of diggs cost and with player who is 7 years younger
4. Improve the overall wide receiver pool
5. Better negotiating platform for in season trades
6. Get a good X receiver with good height and route running abilities
7. More leverage and freedom on draft night
8. Not a major coat drain and becomes a bargain if doubs spends all 4 years considering increasing cap space.
 
I agree. Imagine knowing that is true and we made it to the SB last year
It is incredible we made it to the SB, but we caught a tailwind and Vrabel/McDaniels are really smart. Not quite as smart as BB in 2001.
 
I agree. I can't imagine that Boutte or Douglas is long for the roster. Doubs, Hollins for a year or two, Williams, and a new #1, maybe in the draft this year (or next), plus a Slot like Chism (who I am not big on), and new TEs.

Lots of work to do when we need EDGE, RT, RG, and coverage LB and coverage FS. It has only been one year so there is a long ways to go yet.
I personally could see Douglas sticking around because he may be OK with a lower value contract, let’s say 3 years/$12M with some incentives that are NLTBE. At that point he is worth keeping as a depth player. He can play in multiple spots and has pretty good speed. Not a starter, but if Boutte leaves this year or next, and Hollins is gone after 2026, the only other guys rostered would be the new #1 guy whoever he is, Doubs, Williams and perhaps Chism. So keeping Douglas to kick around for cheap would make sense, at least IMO. If he wants more money, though, yeah he will be out.

I would go EDGE in the 1st this year and then hit tight end, tackle, guard, LB, safety in other rounds. They have tons of picks, trade up some in the 3rd/4th to secure specific guys they want. Trade for a WR1 with a 2027 pick.
 
I don't know but assume Doubs is a better WR than Boutte. He is 3" taller with larger hands, runs great routes, and had a great college career. Maye throwing to Doubs should elevate Doubs. Both are intermediate route runners, so I can not imagine the Pats would sign both at $15M+. Add a #1 X in the draft, Williams on deep balls too, Doubs intermediate with Hollins, and a Slot for the short routes with Henderson/Larison out of the backfield. Maybe a R1/R2 WR as a #1 this year (maybe Bell falls?), and a Slot guy on Day 3?

Having said that, the Pats tried to replace Myers with Smith-Schuster. That was a disaster. Let's hope Doubs replacing Boutte long term is a better plan (if that is the Pats plan).
 
I personally could see Douglas sticking around because he may be OK with a lower value contract, let’s say 3 years/$12M with some incentives that are NLTBE. At that point he is worth keeping as a depth player. He can play in multiple spots and has pretty good speed. Not a starter, but if Boutte leaves this year or next, and Hollins is gone after 2026, the only other guys rostered would be the new #1 guy whoever he is, Doubs, Williams and perhaps Chism. So keeping Douglas to kick around for cheap would make sense, at least IMO. If he wants more money, though, yeah he will be out.

I would go EDGE in the 1st this year and then hit tight end, tackle, guard, LB, safety in other rounds. They have tons of picks, trade up some in the 3rd/4th to secure specific guys they want. Trade for a WR1 with a 2027 pick.
You might be right about Douglas on a smaller contract. I do not think he will have much of a FA market.

Don't trade a 2027 draft pick. Those are like golden tickets.
 
You might be right about Douglas on a smaller contract. I do not think he will have much of a FA market.

Don't trade a 2027 draft pick. Those are like golden tickets.
Yeah I guess the relative value of the draft class should be considered too. Still, you’ve gotta trade something if you want a player, and player swaps are difficult.
 
Yeah I guess the relative value of the draft class should be considered too. Still, you’ve gotta trade something if you want a player, and player swaps are difficult.
We can select a #1 WR next year. There are like 6+ QBs in the the Top 10 next year plus a bunch of kids returned to college for their NIL money. Lots of great players will fall lower than in other years.
 
I would prefer to keep Pop over Boutte.

I feel like Diggs was taking over Pop's slot role and with him gone that should help give Pop more opportunities.

Boutte made some highlight reel catches but can he be relied upon consistently?
 
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