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I would also add OG to the list. Owenu who I like has no GTD money and may not be willing to rework the contract, they could restructure his deal but an extension is most likely. He is also going to be 29 this year and is already not mobile. LG is also a need because who knows if they plan to move Wilson to Center or try him at LG again. Center is also on the list for me because while Bradbury was decent the position needs something other than Bradbury (trying to be nice here).

I agree that Edge rusher is a need but I think that OL is the biggest need, specifically the IOL

You're making some huge assumptions about what I'm saying. If you looked, I put up a list of what I said needed to be improved. I never said that IOL wasn't a need. In fact, I've stated that I want them focusing on IOL for free agency.

Because I expect them to focus on IOL in Free Agency, that is why I expect them to be focusing on BPA for the 3 positions mentioned in the 1st two rounds of the draft. That's where you're getting your difference makers. And you have to consider the ages of Spillance, Moses, and Landry. Guys who aren't going to be around in 2-3 years. You need that 4 down LB. You need that Edge guy who forces teams to focus on him so that it frees up others along the line. You need that right tackle.

Some of the best guards this team has had (outside of Hannah and Mankins) have been journeymen. Guys like Andruzzi and Compton. That's why I don't have an issue with bringing in a guy like McGovern. Possibly James Daniels as well. He is coming off an injury, but offers good versatility.

What is also being forgotten is that the Pats already have 4 guards on the roster in Wallace, Brown, Rupcich and Butler. They may only be JAGs or they may be the heirs apparent for the OG positions. I haven't forgotten, but I'm also not convinced they are what's needed.
 
You're making some huge assumptions about what I'm saying. If you looked, I put up a list of what I said needed to be improved. I never said that IOL wasn't a need. In fact, I've stated that I want them focusing on IOL for free agency.

Because I expect them to focus on IOL in Free Agency, that is why I expect them to be focusing on BPA for the 3 positions mentioned in the 1st two rounds of the draft. That's where you're getting your difference makers. And you have to consider the ages of Spillance, Moses, and Landry. Guys who aren't going to be around in 2-3 years. You need that 4 down LB. You need that Edge guy who forces teams to focus on him so that it frees up others along the line. You need that right tackle.

Some of the best guards this team has had (outside of Hannah and Mankins) have been journeymen. Guys like Andruzzi and Compton. That's why I don't have an issue with bringing in a guy like McGovern. Possibly James Daniels as well. He is coming off an injury, but offers good versatility.

What is also being forgotten is that the Pats already have 4 guards on the roster in Wallace, Brown, Rupcich and Butler. They may only be JAGs or they may be the heirs apparent for the OG positions. I haven't forgotten, but I'm also not convinced they are what's needed.

I think that the Pats need to look at BPA for either LB, EDGE, or RT. And RT is only if they feel that Bryant will not make the leap to push for a starting position.
************ you are something. I made a comment on a post about BPA at a few positions that were not IOL, so I put my reasoning to add IOL to that list. You are right about those other positions needing to be addressed as well.
In the post I responded to there was no mention of IOL or FA. I agree with the bolded above and sure if they do address the IOL in FA then sure you move to other areas.
 
What you "FELT" doesn't mean anything. Neither do the GDTs.. Those are the most gross over-reactions in history typically.

Davis was shining long before the 2nd half of the season. People choose to see what they want and not reality. That's been plainly obvious. Whether you look at the Pro-Football-Reference (PFR) Advanced stats or PFF Stats, Davis played better than people want to think.

PFF says Davis worst game in terms of yards allowed was game 1 with 68 yards allowed on 3 Completions and 68 yards or 22.7 YPC. PFR says that game 1 he allowed 40 yards for 20YPC. After that, the most Davis game up was against Atlanta according to PFR at 61 yards on 5 completions. Those stats tell me that he's not the problem. People's understanding of the game and what actually happened are the problem.

People mention the penalties, but ignore the fact that a majority of them were bogus calls on passes that weren't catchable. I think that maybe 5 of the calls were legit.

Davis was insanely good in the playoffs.
 
No I think there were quite a few of us who felt that way. You can go and look at the game day threads and there was definitely disappointment in the way davis was performing to his contract . It was looking definitely bad and no I was not blind. And I think towards the second half and post season is when davis started to shine more.

Landry, williams , chaisson all started off pretty strong and it took a while for Davis to show his impact.

Same goes for Spillane too. First 4 games they were rank bad and he had so many missed tackles. And after that it was like first 4 games never happened.

If you go to the game threads you will learn that the Patriots lost every game, Maye was the worst quarterback in football, all of the coaches suck, and the Patriots should just give up and disband the franchise.
 
Davis was insanely good in the playoffs.
Davis was good all year. People act like a db sucks any time he lets up a catch as the watch almost every team in every game complete 20-25 or more passes.
 
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I would also add OG to the list. Owenu who I like has no GTD money and may not be willing to rework the contract, they could restructure his deal but an extension is most likely. He is also going to be 29 this year and is already not mobile. LG is also a need because who knows if they plan to move Wilson to Center or try him at LG again. Center is also on the list for me because while Bradbury was decent the position needs something other than Bradbury (trying to be nice here).

I agree that Edge rusher is a need but I think that OL is the biggest need, specifically the IOL
Wolf led me to believe they're looking at C/or Wilson moves over. I don't think they've decided but it sounded like they were leaning to moving Wilson to C. This is my impression of his Executive speak so take it with a grain of salt.
 
David was good all year. People act like a db sucks any time he lets up a catch as the watch almost every team in every game complete 20-25 or more passes.
Yeah he was good all year but his postseason was another level
 
Mike reiss stated to sign Chaisson its gonna be in the 8-11 mil range. I think thats doable.
Too many questions surrounding harold Landry. Id also look at odafe oweh and boye mafe.
 
Mike reiss stated to sign Chaisson its gonna be in the 8-11 mil range. I think thats doable.
Too many questions surrounding harold Landry. Id also look at odafe oweh and boye mafe.
Yup - I saw that too.

That much doesn't scare me off in the least. I think anyone worth having in that role is going to command that much. I still expect to see an edge rusher picked early in the draft - it's considered a deep year and a 2nd rounder would give us someone to develop behind him.

Chaisson grew a lot and contributed in a big way this season and I'm glad he's going to get his value
 
************ you are something. I made a comment on a post about BPA at a few positions that were not IOL, so I put my reasoning to add IOL to that list. You are right about those other positions needing to be addressed as well.
In the post I responded to there was no mention of IOL or FA. I agree with the bolded above and sure if they do address the IOL in FA then sure you move to other areas.

You really should work on understanding the context of someone else's post when you respond. If you had, you'd know WHY IOL or FA weren't mentioned. Because my post was specifically written in response to Toofy's post about what to do at 31. Toofy mentioned IOL in his post and I disagreed. I said that BOA at LB, Edge or RT would be the way to go. WHY? Because even a cursory scan of the IOL prospects in the draft would reveal that there isn't a single one worthy of a 1st round grade.

But good job getting yourself all worked up over you misunderstanding
 
You really should work on understanding the context of someone else's post when you respond. If you had, you'd know WHY IOL or FA weren't mentioned. Because my post was specifically written in response to Toofy's post about what to do at 31. Toofy mentioned IOL in his post and I disagreed. I said that BOA at LB, Edge or RT would be the way to go. WHY? Because even a cursory scan of the IOL prospects in the draft would reveal that there isn't a single one worthy of a 1st round grade.

But good job getting yourself all worked up over you misunderstanding
Lol...not worked up. I'll work on it

There are a couple of IOL worthy of being a 1st round pick. I think Vega Ioane and Pregnon and Bisontis are 1st round worthy, There are maybe 20 players that have 1st round grades, so there are players that will be drafted in the 1st that do not have consensus 1st round grades.
 
Mike reiss stated to sign Chaisson its gonna be in the 8-11 mil range. I think thats doable.
Too many questions surrounding harold Landry. Id also look at odafe oweh and boye mafe.
That’s a very reasonable deal, if they can ink that for 3 or 4 years that would be great.
 
You really should work on understanding the context of someone else's post when you respond. If you had, you'd know WHY IOL or FA weren't mentioned. Because my post was specifically written in response to Toofy's post about what to do at 31. Toofy mentioned IOL in his post and I disagreed. I said that BOA at LB, Edge or RT would be the way to go. WHY? Because even a cursory scan of the IOL prospects in the draft would reveal that there isn't a single one worthy of a 1st round grade.

But good job getting yourself all worked up over you misunderstanding
You honestly don't think Ioane is worth a 1st rd pick?
I disagree whole heartedly if that's your stance.
 
Mike reiss stated to sign Chaisson its gonna be in the 8-11 mil range. I think thats doable.
Too many questions surrounding harold Landry. Id also look at odafe oweh and boye mafe.
Doable? That's an absolute steal for your #2 EDGE.
 
That’s a very reasonable deal, if they can ink that for 3 or 4 years that would be great.
If it's 3/30 mostly guaranteed, it's the perfect middle ground for both sides. Chaisson will still be able to cash in with a big deal after the contract since he'll only be barely 29, assuming he produces.
 
Also if he signs for something like that...don't be surprised if Boutte signs for something similar. They're both in pretty similar situations considering their age, where they can make some good guaranteed money short term, and are still young enough to cash in later if they produce.
 
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