OT: Ravens best team in AFC?

I think so with their shredding of the Chargers yesterday. Lamar looks the best he ever has and can still improve.

Need to see Jackson prove it in the playoffs.

amfootball said:

I think so with their shredding of the Chargers yesterday. Lamar looks the best he ever has and can still improve.

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I think Lamar is quietly moving to the top of the MVP conversation.

Still think the most well rounded team in the AFC is Buffalo.

Ravens defense was really impressive yesterday. Have not really seen that all season.

Who knows its wide open this year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs being there at the end

Cold weather is approaching.

Triumph said:

Cold weather is approaching.

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Lamar and his ability to scramble and run will be even better in the cold weather.

I can't stand Ravens fans/Harbaugh but I like watching the Ravens play. They know what they are good at and they don't hide it. Only when Roman starts calling plays like Lamar is a traditional dropback QB is when they struggle. And I can't stand Harbaugh, but I respect the way he trust Lamar and goes for 4th downs, dumb records and is unapologetic.

Bills.

Bills are easily better imo. I’m still very impressed with Baltimore, I wasn’t even sure they’d be a playoff team with the personnel losses but they’re doing great

If the Ravens get healthy, then yes maybe. If not, you can limit Jackson. I don't see it unless they get their weapons back.

Bills are a complete team imo. I'd take Allen over Jackson in the postseason too.

Jackson will need to improve his passing ability in the postseason. Playoff defenses are good enough to shut down that aspect.

All that said, I still feel confident in the Chiefs to get to the SB. Mahomes over Jackson or Allen. But..Chiefs defense will need to improve too.

I remember everyone writing off the 2018 Patriots because of their record and how they looked. But as a Chiefs fan, I didn't want to see them in the postseason. Would've rather faced the Chargers or Texans.

This may be an unpopular take, but I still have the Chiefs as number one, though the Bills are right there with the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs are slightly the best of a fairly even trio, whereas last year they were clearly the best. I’d rank them Chiefs, Bills, Ravens. I’m only basing this on who I’d bet to win the AFC and not based on how they’re playing right now. If that were the case, the Bills are annihilating everyone.

MahomestoHill said:

Bills are a complete team imo. I'd take Allen over Jackson in the postseason too.

Jackson will need to improve his passing ability in the postseason. Playoff defenses are good enough to shut down that aspect.

All that said, I still feel confident in the Chiefs to get to the SB. Mahomes over Jackson or Allen. But..Chiefs defense will need to improve too.

I remember everyone writing off the 2018 Patriots because of their record and how they looked. But as a Chiefs fan, I didn't want to see them in the postseason. Would've rather faced the Chargers or Texans.

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The Patriots in late 2018 realized they happened to have an immense group of mauling run blockers in Gronk, Allen (TE2), Develin (FB), and a dominant line. They changed their offense to a run first, play-action scheme. We’ll see if the Chiefs will adapt and use what they have rather than trying to force their offense into what it used to be. They barely use running backs as pass catchers and don’t use many TEs/FBs besides Kelce either. They used to be so creative with formations. The league has countered their spread offense to the point it’s still really good but not at the next level dominance they need to overcome their other issues against good teams.

Bills then ravens. Chiefs have too many holes. Chargers in the mix, but they're not a serious contender, imo. You have 2, maybe 3 teams this year that are legit to go to the SB.

NFC on the other hand is going to be a bloodbath. TB, GB, DAL and LAR all 5-1, ARI 6-0. Those playoffs will be actually nuts. They're just a much better conference this year.

amfootball said:

I think so with their shredding of the Chargers yesterday. Lamar looks the best he ever has and can still improve.

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I still don't think they have the passing game to hang with KC and BUF.

RobertWeathers said:

I still don't think they have the passing game to hang with KC and BUF.

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Probably. But I am not sure if it matters if their Oline continues to dominate and they get solid defenses performances like they did yesterday. I really thought the Chargers would beat then and the Ravens just owned them.

Harbaugh and the GM have done a tremendous job since pivoting away from Flacco. innovative, flexible and resourceful- everything Bill has NOT been over the past 3 years.
Pats could have had Lamar Jackson instead of Sony Michel, but he was "too athletic for the Pats system'. Bill's intransigence stands in stark contrast to the Ravens approach.

Bills and Ravens are 1A and 1B.

If the Cheefs get their defense straightened out then they should be considered the best. But as of right now, their defense is a major liability. And it gets even harder for them to win in the playoffs because you are now playing quality teams, for the most part.

BradytoMosstoGronk said:

Bills then ravens. Chiefs have too many holes. Chargers in the mix, but they're not a serious contender, imo. You have 2, maybe 3 teams this year that are legit to go to the SB.

NFC on the other hand is going to be a bloodbath. TB, GB, DAL and LAR all 5-1, ARI 6-0. Those playoffs will be actually nuts. They're just a much better conference this year.

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If Arizona ends up 8-0, the talk of Undefeated season will begin.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

The Patriots in late 2018 realized they happened to have an immense group of mauling run blockers in Gronk, Allen (TE2), Develin (FB), and a dominant line. They changed their offense to a run first, play-action scheme. We’ll see if the Chiefs will adapt and use what they have rather than trying to force their offense into what it used to be. They barely use running backs as pass catchers and don’t use many TEs/FBs besides Kelce either. They used to be so creative with formations. The league has countered their spread offense to the point it’s still really good but not at the next level dominance they need to overcome their other issues against good teams.

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A man can hope I guess.