Will Floyd be back?

Yes, He will re-sign , we are going to pay him low very low


And of course yes, Ray Lewis killed a guy.

I hope Floyd is back. He has a great attitude and he has bought into the Patriot Way. He can be a huge outside asset for us that would make us that much better...He will never repeat what he did in the past, I guarantee it....

supafly said:

Agree on all counts, Ken, although I think a deal that could potentially reach 5m is a bit too high on a one year, prove it deal.

I'm all for keeping him and always felt that this was a move geared towards 2017. I would lower that salary to where incentives could take him to 4m, so we're definitely in the same ballpark.

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Well maybe my incentives are harder than your's to get to the top number. .

The more I think on this, the more I think this will be a slam dunk, EXCEPT for this issue. The only real problem I see in him resigning here was the main reason Hicks didn't re-sign, playing time. Maybe it would be more avantageous for him to go to a team where he knows he's going to be the go to guy, as opposed to NE, where he's going to "just" be one of 5 guys trying to get targets.

But still his biggest problem is his damaged rep, and NO team washes damaged reps cleaner than a year of winning with the NE Patriots. So the Pats would be the smart long term move, but sometimes these guys don't understand that.

Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, Mitchell, Floyd, Slater

That would be the finest and deepest receiving corp Brady has ever had at his disposal. Once Floyd masters the playbook, you wonder which of them to deactivate (absent injury) on any given week.

patfanken said:

Well maybe my incentives are harder than your's to get to the top number. .

The more I think on this, the more I think this will be a slam dunk, EXCEPT for this issue. The only real problem I see in him resigning here was the main reason Hicks didn't re-sign, playing time. Maybe it would be more avantageous for him to go to a team where he knows he's going to be the go to guy, as opposed to NE, where he's going to "just" be one of 5 guys trying to get targets.

But still his biggest problem is his damaged rep, and NO team washes damaged reps cleaner than a year of winning with the NE Patriots. So the Pats would be the smart long term move, but sometimes these guys don't understand that.

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I think he's here on a deal in the range of what you described. He seems to like it here and the environment of being dedicated to football 24/7 seems to be what he needs. Besides he'll have guys like Charlie Weiss whispering in his ear to stay and use this environment to revive his career. I though he seemed to pick up the routs pretty well, but falls short of guys here all year or longer. And he is the kind of downfield blocker the Pats love in their receivers. As far as for the receiver depth chart goes, receivers get dinged up. Guys like Edelman and Amendola tend to get banged up over the course of the year. I think he knows he'll get his chances here and no team, I mean no team, will keep a roster spot open for him while he is serving a 4 game suspension.

Patstopia said:

I think he might of had a chance until he couldn't be trusted to run the routes he was given. After that, it was "hasta la vista baby" for him. Trust in his receivers is paramount for Brady and we have all seen what happens to players that have lost that trust!

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I don't know, that might have been a blessing in disguise.

If he had continued to play well and got the nod over Mitchell, we might not have won.

And if he had played really well, we probably have no shot at re-signing him.

So it may end up working in our favour overall.

1 year 3 million dollar contract with incentives. Can make up to 5 million if he catches 50+ balls or 800 yards. Something like that.

And can't get arrested.

rookBoston said:

Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, Mitchell, Floyd, Slater

That would be the finest and deepest receiving corp Brady has ever had at his disposal. Once Floyd masters the playbook, you wonder which of them to deactivate (absent injury) on any given week.

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Fun that you added Slater. Even MORE fun that we've seen a reduction in the whole "Slater goes long" play in recent years.

patfanken said:

Well maybe my incentives are harder than your's to get to the top number. .

The more I think on this, the more I think this will be a slam dunk, EXCEPT for this issue. The only real problem I see in him resigning here was the main reason Hicks didn't re-sign, playing time. Maybe it would be more avantageous for him to go to a team where he knows he's going to be the go to guy, as opposed to NE, where he's going to "just" be one of 5 guys trying to get targets.

But still his biggest problem is his damaged rep, and NO team washes damaged reps cleaner than a year of winning with the NE Patriots. So the Pats would be the smart long term move, but sometimes these guys don't understand that.

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Even if he did stay here, he'd be far from guaranteed a roster spot. I think that is true for most teams who would sign him.

He's intriguing to us because he's a taller, physical presence who was a former first-round pick, but we have no idea what the team saw from him in both strengths/weaknesses. Personally, I'm hoping that he stays so that a longer look can be had.

Gronkowski123 said:

Ray Lewis killed a guy.

Funny...

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Not if you're the guy

archstanton543 said:

Probably but he'll have to serve time in jail and be suspended six games for his second DUI.

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Disagree if you like, the two people who hit the red "X" button but he's going to jail and will be suspended.

Serious question: Why would Arizona courts have any concern about something that happened in another state many years ago, when a person was in college?

rookBoston said:

Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, Mitchell, Floyd, Slater

That would be the finest and deepest receiving corp Brady has ever had at his disposal. Once Floyd masters the playbook, you wonder which of them to deactivate (absent injury) on any given week.

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One of those guys is going to be hurt most weeks. Having five of them is a wonderful luxury.

I worry about Edelman's brain, however. I love what he's done for the Pats and would actually feel some relief (along with the disappointment) if he retires.

Floyd has a lot of upside and we should be able to re-sign him for cheap so I don't see why not.

Unless some team guarantees him more playing time.
LA Rams
Niners
Giants
Ravens
That kind of thing

If he's cheap (which he will be), why not sign him? Depth is always useful considering that Edelman and Amendola have not been super sturdy the past few seasons. If he performs well, added bonus. If he doesn't perform, nothing of value is lost because he's on a cheap contract.

I think he will re-sign. I think all that talk about losing Brady's trust is ridiculous. He had 4 weeks to learn a new playbook at that point. We had some kind of Reciever here who had 4 years and couldn't grasp Brady's trust. A full offseason with the team will definitely do well.

tasmlab said:

This sounds right to me. After that highlight reel push for a touchdown and the best block of the year, he just went poof from the active roster when it meant the most.

That, and Mitchell and Dola also returned. Maybe he gets tried again.

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He was signed when Gronk went down, and Bennett was hobbling. I always thought he was misused with the Cards, with Fitz there. He is a genuine First Round talent if he can be used properly.

I think BB envisioned him as a Hernandez type receiving TE. I believe he still does. He has good speed, but little acceleration to separate from fast CBs. He is bigger and a better blocker than the Perp, and his lack of breakaway speed negates his effectiveness as a deep receiver in the NFL. But his speed can create separation for him from slower Safeties and LBs.

rookBoston said:

Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, Mitchell, Floyd, Slater

That would be the finest and deepest receiving corp Brady has ever had at his disposal. Once Floyd masters the playbook, you wonder which of them to deactivate (absent injury) on any given week.

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The List should be: Edelman, Gronk, Hogan, Mitchell, Bennett, Floyd, Amendola, White, Slater as the "Recievers". BB thinks of them that way.

archstanton543 said:

Disagree if you like, the two people who hit the red "X" button but he's going to jail and will be suspended.

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No. Way.
Suspended, yes, for 2-4 games.
Jail not gonna happen as he can afford an expensive, effective DUI lawyer.
Unless you kill someone, you don't do time for DUIs even your 2nd, 3rd with a top echelon lawyer..