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by the end of this month, we will know if Samuel stays or goes.
 
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"It's gonna take a lot to make me happy and my family happy," said the first-time Pro Bowler after an AFC practice session at Kapolei High Wednesday. Samuel is one of six Patriots who will play in the all-star game Sunday at Aloha Stadium.

Asked how much he thinks he's worth, Samuel threw the question back at his interviewer: "You take a guess and see if you can hit it. It's no secret I'm looking for a big, huge, blockbuster deal."

Over seven million a year isn't enough to keep you and your family happy? Who is your family, Rhode Island?

You are on the wrong team for that kind of attitude. Buh-bye and good riddance if you are gonna be like that. We'll be happy to take someone who can play on both sides of the field.

This makes me realize how amazing a person Brady is.
 
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Loyalty to the greenback. This is what I hate more than anything about professional team sports.

How is that different to any other field.

I know I am not going to work everyday for anything other than the greenback.

Actually I think Pro sports in one area where you actually see people who care about loyality a little more than the greenbacks. Bruschi is an example.

I just don't get why someone is a scumbag for wanting what someone is willing to give him. and I don't bye into when is enough enough because my answer is never. If I ever find myself in a situation where I have more than enough money than I will ever need and someone still wants to give me millions I will say yes and I can than give to who ever I want rather than say no and let the corperations keep it.
 
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One thing that most players don't REALIZE is Pats can make you a star.
Welwalker is the BEST example because he was NOBODY before joining this team. He is somebody now.
Randy Moss has played football for 10 years. He joined this team for 1 year and he accomplished thing that he didn't think it was possible.

Staying in this team is a no brain decision. Money comes and goes and record will stay FOREVER until somebody break it.

Money can't buy greatness but greatness will make you happy.
 
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How is that different to any other field.

I know I am not going to work everyday for anything other than the greenback.

Actually I think Pro sports in one area where you actually see people who care about loyality a little more than the greenbacks. Bruschi is an example.

I just don't get why someone is a scumbag for wanting what someone is willing to give him. and I don't bye into when is enough enough because my answer is never. If I ever find myself in a situation where I have more than enough money than I will ever need and someone still wants to give me millions I will say yes and I can than give to who ever I want rather than say no and let the corperations keep it.

so, you'd take more money to leave the pats and play for oakland?

ask randy how that'll work out.
of course, some people are a little more money hungry than others.
 
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How is that different to any other field.

I know I am not going to work everyday for anything other than the greenback.

Actually I think Pro sports in one area where you actually see people who care about loyality a little more than the greenbacks. Bruschi is an example.

I just don't get why someone is a scumbag for wanting what someone is willing to give him. and I don't bye into when is enough enough because my answer is never. If I ever find myself in a situation where I have more than enough money than I will ever need and someone still wants to give me millions I will say yes and I can than give to who ever I want rather than say no and let the corperations keep it.

Yeah, it's the ongoing question. Most fans are pretty sophisticated these days, in the sense that we understand players have to do what's best for them. I think the real venom is only reserved for those who talk out of both sides of their mouth, and maybe the guys who hold out and don't honor their contracts. Beyond that, fans understand, mostly.

Athletes are not completely analagous to us, though--there IS an aspect of glory the game, and not just the money, or at least there is most of the time. So the question is where the line is drawn. In the case of Asante, if he really wants to stay with the Pats, he can and be a very rich man. As it is, it seems he wants the absolute highest dollar figure he can get. To each his own.
 
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One thing that most players don't REALIZE is Pats can make you a star.
Welwalker is the BEST example because he was NOBODY before joining this team. He is somebody now.
Randy Moss has played football for 10 years. He joined this team for 1 year and he accomplished thing that he didn't think it was possible.

Staying in this team is a no brain decision. Money comes and goes and record will stay FOREVER until somebody break it.

Money can't buy greatness but greatness will make you happy.

Good point. I feel like some players don't realize how great this franchise truly is run. I mean they are in contention for the SB every year, not many teams if any can say that. But maybe when you're in your situation for a long time you take for granted the opportunities it may provide for you and don't realize how seldom they truly are. The player does have every right to get their money and by all means if they want it they should get it, they worked hard. But money is only so much. Another ex. would be Ty Law. He was an elite corner with the Pats, always being talked about as a key player of this team. Now? I rarely if ever hear anything about him or whatever team he is on. While I'm sure he's still a great player, that recognition for elite is gone. Maybe he can come back?
 
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he is as good as gone
 
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green and white

Yeah I agree with you on that one. I would be glad to keep him and get someone in the draft to challenge on the other side.
 
It's really up to a player WHAT is more important to him...he was franchised and they negotiated him to get him on the field. I'm OK with him going after the green...and if some team wishes to OVERPAY for him..that is only mess up that other team's salary structure. Is he worth it?? I think that is what the Pats have to decide..and if he goes what options are there. he's not one who can play BOTH corner spots..so that is a downside, but he might be what the Patriot's need in the long run. As I said before, he sounded a lot like Woody before he left for the Lions...but this could end differently. I afree though, in 3 weeks we will know.
 
What I find interesting is that on ESPNEWS, they asked Samuel to rate, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being never happen and 10 being will most likely happen, what the likelihood of re-signing with the Patriots was and he said that even though he wanted to test the market to see what it was, that the likelihood of his re-signing with the Pats was a 10.

That was surprising to me. He could just be saying that, but I don't believe that is the case. Especially when it was disproven that his tattoo said "Get Paid."
 
What I find interesting is that on ESPNEWS, they asked Samuel to rate, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being never happen and 10 being will most likely happen, what the likelihood of re-signing with the Patriots was and he said that even though he wanted to test the market to see what it was, that the likelihood of his re-signing with the Pats was a 10.

That was surprising to me. He could just be saying that, but I don't believe that is the case. Especially when it was disproven that his tattoo said "Get Paid."

What does his tattoo actually say then? Link?
I'd like Asante back but right now it looks like he will price himself out of the Pats range.

It might be better to just get a pair of new corners in the draft.
And please don't talk to me about Hobbs. There's no way he's a #1 corner.
 
This offseason is a watershed moment for the Pats - make the wrong moves with Samuel, Colvin, Moss, Stallworth, Gay, etc., and this team is headed for the mediocrity of salary cap hell. I can live without the grinding, ugly despair of a team falling apart from the inside out. Our team is already feeling the strain of the cap - why else would we have played the SB with our best, and second best, ILB and SS all on the far side of 30? This is on top of the question whether Thomas has been, or will be worth the big money the Pats committed to him.

I hope the Pats do not sign Samuel. 'Worth' the money or not, $25mil+ is not an amount this team can afford to pay one player without the noose of cap disaster tightening around it's neck. Besides, chunking out big dough to FA's is not how the Pat's got to the top. Paying up to Asante at this point would be like having that extra drink when you know you're already so toasted it won't matter but you're so dopey you'll let yourself believe you can stretch this most fantastic of buzzes just another hour or two.

Keeping a steady but unspectacular dude like Gay would be more in line with the methodology our hometown team employed to be so good so often. Welker was the first significant Vrabel like signing in a while. the front office could pull off 3-4 moves like that this year on the defense for what it will cost to keep Samuel.

Asante also was covering Tryee's TD pass which Asante tried to pick instead of making sure it wasn't caught in the endzone. I though he put himself before the team on that play. Plus, any player that says, "the fans love me," has a serious ego problem. He'd fit right in Oakland...
 
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"You take a guess and see if you can hit it. It's no secret I'm looking for a big, huge, blockbuster deal."

No thank you.
 
Tattoo says "get rich to this.'

I dunno the diff, really, especially considering the quotes in this story. Strange combo pack there - "I want a huge deal and I think it's a 10 out of 10 chance I stay in NE."

Just looks delusional to me, or some kind of PR to get fans all pumped. Well, we'll see.

PFnV
 
AS is gone and we all know that.

He had a very good career as a Patriot (except for the missed interception in teh BIG game).

Probably good for both AS and the Patriots to go their own way.
 
I think he will surprise people and be back, Don't you think that by asking guys like Colvin, brady and I hope now Light to restructure we can keep one of the best big play corners in the league?
I'd like to keep Assante draft 2 big cornerbacks in this draft and one or 2 fast linebackers, a mean offensive lineman and I'm a happy camper.
 
I'd say 75% chance he goes.

His only motivation to stay would be to get the championship he should have got.
 
It's more like get everybody on the TEAM to restructure, to keep BOTH him and Moss (who ain't gonna play for free.) Of course I know the moment you say stuff like that someone whips out the "all you have to do is..." talk. (As in, convert so-and-so's roster bonus to an option bonus restructure this guy restructure that guy convert this guy's salary to bonus, convert that guy's bonus to salary, prorate the depreciation on Brady's house in a bear market... and VOILA, $60 mil in cap space.)

We'll see once the flurry of cap-space-making moves goes through, how much we REALLY have... it is nice that money up front is the big lure these days, but even if you prorate it, 8 years, 80 million would be pretty damn crushing. That's what they said he wanted last year... I'd love to see that come down some.

PFnV
 
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