Sports Guy Sums up Pats' Advantages Nicely

[tombonneau]

From his column today. I think this really shows how much things are stacked against Jax. Esp. their record when down 7 or more. Yikes.

• Belichick's playoff record in New England: 14-2
• Brady's playoff record at home: 6-0
• Belichick's record against Jack Del Rio: 3-0
• New England's lifetime record against Jacksonville: 7-1
• New England's 2007 regular-season record: 16-0
• Number of '07 Patriots wins by 14-plus points: 11
• Record of '07 Jags after falling behind by more than seven points: 0-4

 

[SeymoreButts]

From his column today. I think this really shows how much things are stacked against Jax. Esp. their record when down 7 or more. Yikes.

Yea, but the media types do not let the facts get in the way of a good argument

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

From his column today.
Belichick's playoff record in New England: 14-2

Much as I hope it becomes 13-2, then 14-2 and then 15-2, I thought BB was 12-2 as head coach of NE
(another 1-1 with Clev)

01' 3-0
03' 3-0
04' 3-0
05' 1-1
06' 2-1

 

[dryheat44]

• Belichick's playoff record in New England: 14-2
• Brady's playoff record at home: 6-0
• Belichick's record against Jack Del Rio: 3-0
• New England's lifetime record against Jacksonville: 7-1
• New England's 2007 regular-season record: 16-0
• Number of '07 Patriots wins by 14-plus points: 11
• Record of '07 Jags after falling behind by more than seven points: 0-4

All of which, of course, means Jack Squat come tomorrow.

 

[tombonneau]

Much as I hope it becomes 13-2, then 14-2 and then 15-2, I thought BB was 12-2 as head coach of NE
(another 1-1 with Clev)

01' 3-0
03' 3-0
04' 3-0
05' 1-1
06' 2-1

Yes, I think you're correct. Pretty sure Pats had a bye for each SB run. Either way, pretty f'ing impressive.

Another choice quote is his comments on SD-Indy game:

I can't even take this game seriously, especially after seeing Norv react in the last minute of the ugly Titans game like they had just won three Super Bowls at once.

 

[tombonneau]

All of which, of course, means Jack Squat come tomorrow.

Not quite. Some "Yes", some "No."

• Belichick's playoff record in New England: 14-2
Means BB knows how to prepare his teams for playoff games.

• Brady's playoff record at home: 6-0
Means Brady is really, really good at home in the playoffs.

• Belichick's record against Jack Del Rio: 3-0
Means BB is better at game-planning & coaching than JDR.

• New England's lifetime record against Jacksonville: 7-1
This means slightly less I agree as it's more historical with fluctuating players. But even looking at recent history in the last 2-3 season, edge NE.

• New England's 2007 regular-season record: 16-0
This means nothing.

• Number of '07 Patriots wins by 14-plus points: 11
This means nothing, except for gambling purposes.

• Record of '07 Jags after falling behind by more than seven points: 0-4
This means A LOT. It means if Jax gets down early, their recent performance indicates they don't have the horses to comeback.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Who cares what "sports guy" has to say. Sports gal is much better at making picks. She has us too.

 

[Truck]

Record of '07 Jags after falling behind by more than seven points: 0-4

This right here is a huge stat. Jax is very good at slowing down the rate of possession changes with a lead, since they have their 2 backs to get 5+ minute drives from.
But if they have a deficit, and need to score quickly, they're incapable.

If the Pats get first possession and score a TD, I think it'll be game over cuz the Jags will realize the 'pound the football' won't work; and neither will 'throw the football'

 

[Wildo7]

wow. He absolutely nailed the pregame shows and announcers. Great article.

 

[dryheat44]

Not quite. Some "Yes", some "No."

• Belichick's playoff record in New England: 14-2
Means BB knows how to prepare his teams for playoff games.

• Brady's playoff record at home: 6-0
Means Brady is really, really good at home in the playoffs.

• Belichick's record against Jack Del Rio: 3-0
Means BB is better at game-planning & coaching than JDR.

All it means is that the Patriots have been an excellent team the last five years. You could put Belichick vs. Any coach in the league but Dungy and Shanahan, and he's going to be way ahead, and pitch shutouts in a lot of cases. Fox. Holmgren. Jauron. Reid. Etc. Brady's regular season record at home is outstanding. As is his regular season record on the road. And Green Bay has never lost a playoff game at home when the temperature has been less than 28 degrees. All these stats mean is that the Patriots are a great team, Brady's a great quarterback, and Belichick is a great coach. But we already knew that. It has no bearing on this game any more than it did at Indianapolis last year, when BB was 12-1 in the playoffs with the Pats, and had never lost when leading by more than 10 at the half.

• Record of '07 Jags after falling behind by more than seven points: 0-4
This means A LOT. It means if Jax gets down early, their recent performance indicates they don't have the horses to comeback.

It also means they were good enough to only fall behind by more than a touchdown in four games all season. That's fairly impressive. They came back from six-and-seven point deficits many times, in a couple of cases in the fourth quarter. Of those four losses cited, two were to the Colts, and the other two were Quinn Gray starts, one of which they came back to tie 10-10 and again 17-17 before losing. I'm willing to bet there are a lot of teams who have terrible records when falling behind by two scores.

 

[Tommysgirl]

It also means they were good enough to only fall behind by more than a touchdown in four games all season. That's fairly impressive. Of those four losses, two were to the Colts, and the other two were Quinn Gray starts, one of which they came back to tie 10-10 and again 17-17 before losing. I'm willing to bet there are a lot of teams who have terrible records when falling behind by two scores.

Didn't Garrard start the 2nd game in Indy?

 

[Xzibit23]

You guys have to understand when you're the only 16-0 in nfl history, no one's going to waste time breaking down why you will win or what you need to do to win. The 16-0 is evident enough that things stack in your favor, the much sexier discussion or analysis is what the Jags need to do to win, or why they have a shot. So you have to look at these articles and "analysis" with that in mind, and I guarantee all these would pick the Pats if there life depended on it.

 

[Richter]

All of which, of course, means Jack Squat come tomorrow.

Most of which, you mean. Belichick's record against Del Rio counts for something in evaluating the game, namely that he's a much, much better coach.

 

[Wildo7]

You guys have to understand when you're the only 16-0 in nfl history, no one's going to waste time breaking down why you will win or what you need to do to win. The 16-0 is evident enough that things stack in your favor, the much sexier discussion or analysis is what the Jags need to do to win, or why they have a shot. So you have to look at these articles and "analysis" with that in mind, and I guarantee all these would pick the Pats if there life depended on it.

I agree, why on earth would there be a "Pats blueprint for beating the Jags" article. It's pretty obvious that they should win and that it's clearly more entertaining for America to entertain theories about how the underdog could concievably upset the Pats. People picking the Jags are clearly just trying to be contrarians, or the "genius" pick types who no one will remember if they're wrong. I don't get why so many people on this site have a problem with this.

 

[Tommysgirl]

I agree, why on earth would there be a "Pats blueprint for beating the Jags" article. It's pretty obvious that they should win and that it's clearly more entertaining for America to entertain theories about how the underdog could concievably upset the Pats. People picking the Jags are clearly just trying to be contrarians, or the "genius" pick types who no one will remember if they're wrong. I don't get why so many people on this site have a problem with this.

I don't think people have a problem with the analysts picking the Jags. I think it's the stupidity with which they base their pick is what everyone gets upset about.

 

[dryheat44]

Most of which, you mean. Belichick's record against Del Rio counts for something in evaluating the game, namely that he's a much, much better coach.

True. But if he was 4-3 agaisnt Del Rio, he'd still be a much, much better coach. In fact, if he was 2-5 against Del Rio, he'd still be a much, much better coach. I mean, the talent on the team counts much more. Pete Carroll had a great record against Jimmy Johnson, because the Patriots were the better team at the time.

Look, the Patriots are almost certainly going to win tomorrow night. And the reason is because they are a much better team than Jacksonville. There's no need to rattle off random statistics that supposedly show that we have a huge advantage. If the two teams were equals from a talent standpoint, maybe you'd use coaching quality to break the tie, but that's certainly not the case here, and even then, using a head-to-head record probably isn't they way you'd evaluate the coaches.

 

[juxtapoz15]

Yes, I think you're correct. Pretty sure Pats had a bye for each SB run. Either way, pretty f'ing impressive.

Another choice quote is his comments on SD-Indy game:

Of course they had a bye for each of their SB runs, if they didn't they would have to name one of the championship DVDs "4 Games to Glory"

 

[dryheat44]

Didn't Garrard start the 2nd game in Indy?

Garrard started both games vs. Indy. The two non-Indy losses in that "0-4 when falling behind by more than seven points" statistic (New Orleans and Houston) were Quinn Gray games.

 

[Tommysgirl]

Garrard started both games vs. Indy. The two non-Indy losses in that "0-4 when falling behind by more than seven points" statistic (New Orleans and Houston) were Quinn Gray games.

Gotcha--read it wrong. By the way--you're being called an idiot in the Jags are dumb thread.

 

[Rocky Mountain Stampede]

You could put Belichick vs. Any coach in the league but Dungy and Shanahan, and he's going to be way ahead, and pitch shutouts in a lot of cases. Fox. Holmgren. Jauron. Reid. Etc.

BOW DOWN!