I am expecting a pro bowl season

[SlowGettingUp]

Campbell's injury was likely worse than they made out:

Healthy Will Campbell focused on taking next step in Year 2

Campbell needed physical therapy this offseason following his knee injury.

www.patspulpit.com

Having an experienced guard next to him instead of a rookie can only help as well. Two rookies next to each other on the left side of the OL is usually a recipe for disaster.

 

[mgteich]

I don't expect a pro-bowl season. I expect serious improvement, which is fine. Having a competent LG next to him should help a lot.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Where did they say that?

I saw quotes from Seattle defenders saying their whole game plan was focused on Maye because he's their only offensive threat, but nothing specific to Campbell.

This wasn't the quote I've seen before, but this about as close as it gets referring to the left side:

"Seahawks pass rushers sped past Campbell and got their kicks against him so frequently, they might as well have dubbed him “Route 66.”

“We knew their offensive line couldn’t hold up against our rush,” Murphy said afterward. “We tried to keep (Maye) rattled. We knew he liked to hold onto the ball a bit. We also knew where he liked to step up and escape. We tried to take that way and to make it very hard for him.

Said Nwosu: “Shout out to Drake Maye — he’s a great player, but we saw this coming before it even started. We knew their offensive line was a little shaky, especially on the left side.”

“We knew he was a young quarterback,” second-team All-Pro defensive tackle Leonard Williams added. “We knew they have a young offensive line, especially on the left side. So we attacked. (Maye) stayed calm the whole game. I respect that. But once we started affecting him, that’s when the ball came alive.”

Drake Maye got swallowed up by the moment, and the Super Bowl setback left him in tears

Drake Maye was the MVP runner-up in his second season, but against a dominant defense in the Super Bowl, he failed to measure up.

www.nytimes.com

Somewhat related, but they Seahawks found a tell in the Pats OL:

 

[n1997y]

And if he plays a strong game do the naysayers go away

Patriots naysayers will never go away.

 

[n1997y]

I just wish you were in charge of our drafts.

I can’t wait to see a offensive roster starting ten WRs and a QB!

 

[Triumph]

This wasn't the quote I've seen before, but this about as close as it gets referring to the left side:

"Seahawks pass rushers sped past Campbell and got their kicks against him so frequently, they might as well have dubbed him “Route 66.”

“We knew their offensive line couldn’t hold up against our rush,” Murphy said afterward. “We tried to keep (Maye) rattled. We knew he liked to hold onto the ball a bit. We also knew where he liked to step up and escape. We tried to take that way and to make it very hard for him.

Said Nwosu: “Shout out to Drake Maye — he’s a great player, but we saw this coming before it even started. We knew their offensive line was a little shaky, especially on the left side.”

“We knew he was a young quarterback,” second-team All-Pro defensive tackle Leonard Williams added. “We knew they have a young offensive line, especially on the left side. So we attacked. (Maye) stayed calm the whole game. I respect that. But once we started affecting him, that’s when the ball came alive.”

Drake Maye got swallowed up by the moment, and the Super Bowl setback left him in tears

Drake Maye was the MVP runner-up in his second season, but against a dominant defense in the Super Bowl, he failed to measure up.

www.nytimes.com

Somewhat related, but they Seahawks found a tell in the Pats OL:

Brady made the NE OL look a whole lot better than they actually were. He made lighting quick decisions and got the ball away fast.

Maye also made the 2025 NE OL look better than they were too. Maye used his superb mobility when pass plays broke down avoiding a sack and creating a positive play. The Pats played many teams who didnt have the scheme and talent to challenge Campbell. So, it all appeared fine, but it wasnt.

The Pats know all this and that's why Lomu was pick #31.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Campbell's injury was likely worse than they made out:

Having an experienced guard next to him instead of a rookie** can only help as well. Two rookies next to each other on the left side of the OL is usually a recipe for disaster.

**A rookie guard playing out of position and also recovering from an injury.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Brady made the NE OL look a whole lot better than they actually were. He made lighting quick decisions and got the ball away fast.

This was especially true during the early years. Those OL's were pedestrian. They really had to get creative with the T's cut blocking and Brady rolling out.

 

[rkarp1]

what does AI say?

During the 2025 NFL regular season, Drake Maye was sacked 47 times, and film tracking data revealed that the vast majority of those sacks were actually Drake Maye's fault rather than the offensive line's fault. [1, 2, 3]
Midway through the season, an in-depth film breakdown by the Boston Herald highlighted this stark disparity: when Maye had taken 34 sacks, the offensive line was only found directly responsible for 11 of them. The remaining 23 sacks were caused by Maye holding onto the ball too long, non-OL coverage assignments failing (such as tight ends or running backs), or standard defensive coverage wins. [1]

Regular Season Sack Responsibility Breakdown

Responsible Party [1, 2, 4, 5]	Number of Sacks (Pro-Rated Estimation)	Primary Technical Reason
Drake Maye	~28 Sacks	Long 3.12s release time; extending plays out of structure
Offensive Line Fault	~15 Sacks	Blown blocks; heavily penalized stunt/blitz adjustments
Running Backs / Tight Ends	~4 Sacks	Missed chip blocks and missed blitz-pickup assignments

 

[Water Boy]

Campbell's injury was likely worse than they made out:

Healthy Will Campbell focused on taking next step in Year 2

Campbell needed physical therapy this offseason following his knee injury.

www.patspulpit.com

Having an experienced guard next to him instead of a rookie can only help as well. Two rookies next to each other on the left side of the OL is usually a recipe for disaster.

Bingo. I get the investment they made in starting Wilson at LG during the season, but not starting Ben Brown in the playoffs was in my opinion the worst coaching decision of the Vrabel era thus far.

 

[1960Pats]

Those are awfully high expectations and I hope you're right.

 

[neuronet]

Will Campbell Working Out With Future HOFer And All-Pros In Small Group | NESN

Patriots tackle Will Campbell is surrounding himself with greatness.

nesn.com

I love this. I'm thinking most people in this thread haven't looked at the article or thought about what it means.

He's a competitor, and that doesn't go away with a loss. His performance during the playoff run into the SB is going to be nightmare fuel....for the rest of the league. He's going to have a Brady-sized chip on his shoulder for the rest of his career. He's doing exactly what winners do when they get kicked down. He's not whining. He's surrounding himself with people better than himself so he can learn, and continue to get better.

I expect a huge second year bump from him. Plus, with the improved people around him, and also Josh's second-year bump as a Drake whisperer, our OL is going to be good this year not just improved over the speed bump they were under Mayo. This entire offense is going to lay some ****ing wood.

Can't wait for the Seattle opener I just wish it were in Foxboro.

 

[neuronet]

What position?

All of it

 

[Water Boy]

I listened to the Check the Mic podcast this morning. They broke down the seasons of the 2025 first round picks.

FWIW Mitch Schwartz didn't think the knee injury Campbell had was that serious for an OT.

Their assessment was that due to his lack of wingspan Campbell has to be 100% perfect in his technique. Other tackles with longer arms have an easier time recovering during a rep if they have the reach.

 

[DaBruinz]

Will Campbell Working Out With Future HOFer And All-Pros In Small Group | NESN

Patriots tackle Will Campbell is surrounding himself with greatness.

nesn.com

Who cares about the "Pro Bowl"? It's become a pretty meaningless event that has no bearing on how well a player actually played during the year.

 

[Salsalife]

Need Drake to have a Pro bowl season for this to work again. Priority 1 Drake, fix your short game passes. Utilize the Underneath stuff with your backs. 3 to 8 yard range, touch passing that even the Fullback can catch! Quick, accurate and out in under 2 seconds like Brady did.

 

[State]

Future all pros? Christian Gonzalez, Drake Maye, Treyveyon Henderson, Milt Williams, Hunter Henry, Marcus Jones, Brenden Schooler...heck, even AVT if he stays healthy. Guy's very good.

You guys are in dreamland about Will Campbell becoming elite cuz he's hanging out with other elite OTs. It doesn't get spread around like a virus. He's got inconsistent footwork in pass pro (He is very good in run blocking.), inadequate wingspan, and lacks strength. Just saying.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Future all pros? Christian Gonzalez, Drake Maye, Treyveyon Henderson, Milt Williams, Hunter Henry, Marcus Jones, Brenden Schooler...heck, even AVT if he stays healthy. Guy's very good.

Most of them already made it. Henderson will have a difficult time because the Pats rarely have had a high volume RB. Steven Ridley in 2012 was their best shot of a RB making All Pro. Milton Williams won't make it if continues to use his energy towards the run game - it's going to wear him out. He wasn't paid all that money to be Vince Wilfork. Needs to get the sack numbers up. No on Henry.

You guys are in dreamland about Will Campbell becoming elite cuz he's hanging out with other elite OTs. It doesn't get spread around like a virus. He's got inconsistent footwork in pass pro (He is very good in run blocking.), inadequate wingspan, and lacks strength. Just saying.

Yes, many are in dreamland about Campbell and are in denial that he was hanging on for dear life before his injury. I'm most concerned about his lack of strength at the point of attack where his lack of wingspan won't allow him to recover. Some posters think it's the end of the world if he moves to G, but the Pats can't rely on AVT. Lomu could play LT with Campbell at G and the Pats will have to replace Moses at RT regardless.

 

[Ring 6]

what does AI say?

During the 2025 NFL regular season, Drake Maye was sacked 47 times, and film tracking data revealed that the vast majority of those sacks were actually Drake Maye's fault rather than the offensive line's fault. [1, 2, 3]
Midway through the season, an in-depth film breakdown by the Boston Herald highlighted this stark disparity: when Maye had taken 34 sacks, the offensive line was only found directly responsible for 11 of them. The remaining 23 sacks were caused by Maye holding onto the ball too long, non-OL coverage assignments failing (such as tight ends or running backs), or standard defensive coverage wins. [1]

Regular Season Sack Responsibility Breakdown

Responsible Party [1, 2, 4, 5]	Number of Sacks (Pro-Rated Estimation)	Primary Technical Reason
Drake Maye	~28 Sacks	Long 3.12s release time; extending plays out of structure
Offensive Line Fault	~15 Sacks	Blown blocks; heavily penalized stunt/blitz adjustments
Running Backs / Tight Ends	~4 Sacks	Missed chip blocks and missed blitz-pickup assignments

That is ridiculous. Did you watch any games? If you had, and knew what you were watching you wouldn’t ask AI and get a bs answer then post it.

 

[Ring 6]

Most of them already made it. Henderson will have a difficult time because the Pats rarely have had a high volume RB. Steven Ridley in 2012 was their best shot of a RB making All Pro. Milton Williams won't make it if continues to use his energy towards the run game - it's going to wear him out. He wasn't paid all that money to be Vince Wilfork. Needs to get the sack numbers up. No on Henry.

Yes, many are in dreamland about Campbell and are denial that he was hanging on for dear life before his injury. I'm most concerned about his lack of strength at the point of attack where his lack of wingspan won't allow him to recover. Some posters think it's the end of the world if he moves to G, but the Pats can't rely on AVT. Lomu could play LT with Campbell at G and the Pats will have to replace Moses at RT regardless.

Campbell was playing very well before the injury.