Boutte available for trade?

[rochrist]

I think letting Jacobi Myers go did some damage to people. Ever since then people have been looking for the next Myers. So in this case many on the board have compared Boutte to him. That’s probably why you’re getting some people who believe he’s only scratching the surface and AJB is the Pats JuJu Smith Shuster.

After three seasons, Jacobi had 168 catches. After three seasons, Boutte has 78.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

He wasn't healthy though - and has a pretty significant injury history.

33 catches for 500 yards for a 1-year rental isn't going to get you more than a 6th, maybe a 5th if you're lucky because he's making so little, and is only 23.

You know very well that I like the player - but people thinking you're going to get a 3rd round pick, or trade him straight up for Thibedeoux, are out of their damn minds.

I do agree that a 3rd is crazy talk. However I could see the Thibedeoux trade making a little sense due to the situation revolving each respected player. Just a long jam on the D line, and a logjam at WR here, with two players with up and down careers with mixed with injury. We need DE, they need WR. Pairing Boutee with Nabers is interesting. They were the best WR duo in college at one point. It they can't find a team willing to give them a good draft pick, I could see them making the trade straight up.

 

[PatsFan2]

Already we’re up to 36 pages of debate for a guy who doesn’t have the speed of T. Thornton or the hands of Polk (“best hands in the NFL” as I recall)…. Still believe a 5th rounder if we throw in a 6th pick or just a plain old 6th pick) is what we would receive (no pun intended) at this point. Look at it this way, if we settle for the latter we may have a chance of making history - has there ever been a team who owned 5 picks in a single round?!

You sound like a Hater; he's already better than both those scrubs. Also a Fifth Rounder is not a guarantee. Becareful what you wish for.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I think letting Jacobi Myers go did some damage to people. Ever since then people have been looking for the next Myers. So in this case many on the board have compared Boutte to him. That’s probably why you’re getting some people who believe he’s only scratching the surface and AJB is the Pats JuJu Smith Shuster.

One of the best move the Pats made was letting Meyers walk to clear that money out for an upgrade. However, nobody saw that upgrade in Smith-Schuster.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

Giants are going to let him walk unless he pulls another Lorenzo Alexander season out of him. This name seems to get floated around a lot, but he's been a pedestrian pass rusher for the majority of his career. Remove his 2023 season and his averaging 5.6 sacks a season. Fluke seasons seems to be a disturbing trend around the NFL.

Id give boutee up for 6-8 sacks. We need everyone we can get.

 

[Thelonious]

So far as one can tell from the outside, it doesn't seem there is a lot of interest in him as a trade acquisition, so we would not likely get very much for him. (This could change down the line, when other teams' WR's start suffering injury or fail to meet expectations, but we are not there yet.) He is still, unless I am mistaken, on a low-cost contract. WR's do get hurt (particularly aging ones with a bum knee). Put it all together, though I know it will not make the player happy, the best move is to hold onto him as a backup. To put it simply, his value to the team in my mind is significantly greater than what we are likely to net trading him.

 

[rkarp1]

You’re responding to nobody. Hit “reply.”

Yards are a measurement of success, it’s literally the basis of fantasy football.

You want to pretend efficiency stats matter more, when in reality the entire receiving corps was hyper efficient. That was more to do with Drake and the offense. This is called “cherry picking.”

500 yards is 500 yards… there’s receivers who post 1500 yards. 500 yards is nothing special.

show me a WR that posted 1000 yards on under 60 targets. 70 targets. 80 targets. they either do not, or hardly exist.
Boutte gets 1st downs
Boutte catches everything
Boutte gets into the end zone

My entire part of this conversation is
1) don't rush into a bad deal.
2) add a 6th rd pick as a sweetener if needed
3) a good deal could be a player in return rather than a draft pick

 

[moosekill]

show me a WR that posted 1000 yards on under 60 targets. 70 targets. 80 targets. they either do not, or hardly exist.
Boutte gets 1st downs
Boutte catches everything
Boutte gets into the end zone

My entire part of this conversation is
1) don't rush into a bad deal.
2) add a 6th rd pick as a sweetener if needed
3) a good deal could be a player in return rather than a draft pick

This is just boring now. You keep spouting the same tired stuff over and over. If you want to have his babies go for it. They will either trade him or they won't. His stats are pedestrian at best and no matter how you polish that turd it is still a turd. You have to be open to get targets, he wasn't open often enough to get lots of targets, even though he played lots of snaps. I hope they get a first for him, I just think the odds are pretty low we will be offered much above a 6th. Maybe we can trade him for another similar player, on their last year or two of their contract, or one whose contract makes him tough to trade, and I like the kid, but wow.

 

[PatsFan2]

I do agree that a 3rd is crazy talk. However I could see the Thibedeoux trade making a little sense due to the situation revolving each respected player. Just a long jam on the D line, and a logjam at WR here, with two players with up and down careers with mixed with injury. We need DE, they need WR. Pairing Boutee with Nabers is interesting. They were the best WR duo in college at one point. If they can't find a team willing to give them a good draft pick, I could see them making the trade straight up.

Straight up for a Former #5 overall. The Giants GM would be assassinated for GM Malpractice... this ain't Madden.

 

[PatsFan2]

So far as one can tell from the outside, it doesn't seem there is a lot of interest in him as a trade acquisition, so we would not likely get very much for him. (This could change down the line, when other teams' WR's start suffering injury or fail to meet expectations, but we are not there yet.) He is still, unless I am mistaken, on a low-cost contract. WR's do get hurt (particularly aging ones with a bum knee). Put it all together, though I know it will not make the player happy, the best move is to hold onto him as a backup. To put it simply, his value to the team in my mind is significantly greater than what we are likely to net trading him.

That's what I'm saying.

 

[Since1960]

You sound like a Hater; he's already better than both those scrubs. Also a Fifth Rounder is not a guarantee. Becareful what you wish for.

A “hater”? Not quite… I do admit to not being impressed with our former 2nd round pick wr’s, and I also believe that Boutte, picked in the 6th round, over the past 3 years has contributed as expected for where he was drafted. This, (despite two highlight reel TD’s) is why I stated we could at best obtain a 5th round pick only if we also gave up a 6th rounder. My only wish is that the players identified by the coaches to have the most potential to contribute to the team remain on the team.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

A “hater”? Not quite… I do admit to not being impressed with our former 2nd round pick wr’s, and I also believe that Boutte, picked in the 6th round, over the past 3 years has contributed as expected for where he was drafted. This, (despite two highlight reel TD’s) is why I stated we could at best obtain a 5th round pick only if we also gave up a 6th rounder. My only wish is that the players identified by the coaches to have the most potential to contribute to the team remain on the team.

said it before and I will say it again, this is Chad Jackson's year. Clock it.

 

[Since1960]

said it before and I will say it again, this is Chad Jackson's year. Clock it.

I’m still torn between Ron Sellers and Hart Lee Dykes!

 

[rochrist]

I’m still torn between Ron Sellers and Hart Lee Dykes!

Hart Lee Dykes wasn't a bust though. He was a good player whose career was cut short by a catastrophic knee injury.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Hart Lee Dykes wasn't a bust though. He was a good player whose career was cut short by a catastrophic knee injury.

Still, he was no Andy Katzenmoyer.

 

[PatsFan2]

Still, he was no Andy Katzenmoyer.

Or TeSucky Jones.

 

[rkarp1]

This is just boring now. You keep spouting the same tired stuff over and over. If you want to have his babies go for it. They will either trade him or they won't. His stats are pedestrian at best and no matter how you polish that turd it is still a turd. You have to be open to get targets, he wasn't open often enough to get lots of targets, even though he played lots of snaps. I hope they get a first for him, I just think the odds are pretty low we will be offered much above a 6th. Maybe we can trade him for another similar player, on their last year or two of their contract, or one whose contract makes him tough to trade, and I like the kid, but wow.

lets see. I will jump onto the trade Boutte thread, and complain about people discussing trading Boutte
boring people get bored
are you married to Clone what's her name?

 

[patfanken]

[QUOTE="PatsFan2]
I think if Boutte was healthy those Three Games; he would post Romeo Doubs numbers at the very least. Some people are sleeping on him on here: Kyle Williams maybe Faster but he 's not a better Route Runner yet.
[/QUOTE]

I think the more accurate remark would have been to say, "Boutte WAS a better route runner than Williams last season". We are all hoping that Williams has greatly improved his understanding of the offense this season and runs better routes. Jf it turns out that he can, then William's' value to the team increases and Boutte's snaps and targets will likely decrease accordingly, UNLESS of course Brown and Doubs are hurt.[/QUOTE]

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Some of the keep boutte people are missing a really important point:

The player’s wishes.

Dude doesn’t want to be here because he won’t get the touches he wants/feels he deserves to maximize his value.

AJ Brown just took most of his snaps.

The ONLY world I see him staying here in is one where Brass feels Williams was a straight bust and will never “get it”.

Unfortunately the timing on both decisions is off by a season AND they aren’t similar players. Boutte isn’t stretching any fields.

But Williams seems to be victim of the old “this offense is too hard” issue popping back up for young WR’s.

 

[mgteich]

Some of the keep boutte people are missing a really important point:

The player’s wishes.

Dude doesn’t want to be here because he won’t get the touches he wants/feels he deserves to maximize his value.

AJ Brown just took most of his snaps.

The ONLY world I see him staying here in is one where Brass feels Williams was a straight bust and will never “get it”.

Unfortunately the timing on both decisions is off by a season AND they aren’t similar players. Boutte isn’t stretching any fields.

But Williams seems to be victim of the old “this offense is too hard” issue popping back up for young WR’s.

So, yes, the team could hedge their bets and see how much Williams has learned during camp and the pre-season. At that point, they could keep Boutte for another year. But I don't like this strategy. Boutte wouldn't get the reps of Williams. That's not his role.

We need role players. Absent injury, Brown, Dobbs, Hollins and Henry will get almost all the receiver targets. Williams and Douglas have their special roles, and perhaps CHism can show enough to make the roster again.

There is simply no spot for Boutte. Backups need to fit specific roles. Boutte does not.