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I suspect the deal is close to being done and will be in place by June-July. They have to get AJ Brown in house and adjusted and also figure out what they want to do with Owenu who is set to make $25m and is in a contract year. We just don't have his replacement in the pipeline yet. When we picked at #95, I told my son that Dunker would be the best pick and Raridon was my 2nd choice, but Pats Nation would have had a cow with Dunker.
 
The only reason the pats haven't signed a contract yet is incase an injury happens this year is my guess. Getting it down early saves cash. But you also are locked in. They want Gonzo to show he can be healthy again this year and are willing to pay a few million to see proof of concept.
 
#asexpected
Picking up the option was as inevitable as the tides. Seriously, is anyone surprised?

Foregone conclusion.

It's the 50m a year extension that will make eyes bulge around here...
 
New regime, Vrabel trying to set a culture (worked last year but then this recent scandal), they really "can't" afford players holding grudges over perceived value, holding out until get a deal etc...and early indications point that Gonzo camp wants to reset the market. I can see this getting a little ugly. Wolf is already giving those obvious standard answers when questioned about this.
 
It's the obvious move. There are essentially two options re this player: either trade him or sign him. I understand that the mere mention of the former will send some into a mighty tizzy, but no decision-making process can be complete without contemplating all your options. If we trade him, the compensation will be pretty enormous, even transformative, if those resources are exploited wisely and you get a little lucky. Tactically, hinting that that option as under live consideration -whether it actually is or not,frankly - might offer a little prod to the Gonzo camp, suggesting as it does that we are not without options, and might encourage teams who might be interested to get in line as prospective trade partners, opening up those conversation early, seeing what the lay of the land actually is. Perhaps this will seem a little sleazy or manipulative to some. If you are afflicted with such squeamishness, you might recall Gonzo's asinine gesture at the Celts' game. I myself am not horrified over the prospect of a trade, because I am horrified at the prospect of paying one player a salary so high that it cripples the team going forward. The history of the league abounds with examples of this error. Gonzo is a very good player, but his value is not infinite. It only seems that way if we yield to alarmism over the prospect of moving on from him.

As for the player himself. I think it is reasonable to worry about his passive aggressive personality, his too-cool-for-school ********, frankly. At this point, one might see it as the quirk of a young fella, but such stuff can harden over time - particularly after a huge contract is signed - into something genuinely and expensively problematic. It seems possible Gonzo might be a little fragile physically as well, perhaps reluctant to return to the field until his health is perfectly restored, a thing quite impractical in a collision sport. As the sample is still small, this is not an established problem, but it is a matter which bears consideration.

The team should decide, privately, on the absolute maximum they are willing to pay for this asset, then stick with that number through the entire process. It should keep the trade alternative in place as an actual, live option. If you pick the right ceiling for what you are willing to pay, then, given the major haul of picks/players such a trade would yield, you can approach the whole thing with equanimity, with comparative indifference even as to the outcome. You know what he is worth to you, and you will pay no more, and you will get your value anyway. It's what my old man told me to do when you buy a used car. Once you know what the actual value - to you -of the car is, you fix on a ceiling as to what you will pay, then stick to it.
 
Foregone conclusion.

It's the 50m a year extension that will make eyes bulge around here...

It's an interesting negotiation. Gonzo is at the top of his game at a time when revenue (and consequently the cap) seems poised to once again jump substantially. OTOH Gonzalez has not necessarily proven to be the most durable of players and the Pats are the only team in a position to pay him more in the next two years and ofc that revenue increase has not happened yet. It might not be a stretch to say the perception the cap is on the verge of getting a big bump could be slowing negotiations, after all a bigger pie allows for a larger slice
 
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Curran has been talking about how the owners are looking to renegotiate the 50/50 revenue split.
 
Curran has been talking about how the owners are looking to renegotiate the 50/50 revenue split.
The teams are entirely justified in being every bit as predatory as the players, who these days are quite predatory indeed. The present fad of whining about billionaires and about their alleged predations on the nation's various sorts of losers gives a skewed perspective on these matters. If you are expending the resources in time, money, and risk to start/buy/run an enterprise, you are entitled to act in a way which benefits yourself and that business. Far better to embrace that perspective than to join in all the pointless whining about imaginary exploitation, because that is the sure sign, and the dishonorable refuge, of a loser.
 
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#asexpected
Picking up the option was as inevitable as the tides. Seriously, is anyone surprised?

I would think he's going to want top of market for defenders. They have to decide if they are going to invest in him, Maye and another front of roster player or if they will go with Maye and spread the money around and have an upper middle class roster across the board. How they deal with him will tell us a lot of how they are going to manager the roster under this regime.
 
I would think he's going to want top of market for defenders. They have to decide if they are going to invest in him, Maye and another front of roster player or if they will go with Maye and spread the money around and have an upper middle class roster across the board. How they deal with him will tell us a lot of how they are going to manager the roster under this regime.
I think the talk was around $33m per year. That's a lot to expend on a CB but in a passing league, having someone who can take out a WR1 is absolutely necessary. And other than Milton, who on the defense is someone opposing teams have to account for?
 
imo it is not a matter of money with Gonzo. it is structure against the cap.
Maye has to get done after year 3. he will be paid top of league money (at least for that moment, until the next guy)
the team needs to figure out the structure on both Maye and Gonzo, alongside Milt, Doubs, Brown?
More than likely next year we will see Onwenu, Davis and possibly Barmore leave.
they need to be figuring this out now, rather than later.
Gonzo is the first domino. extending him now rather than picking up his option is the wise move
 
Gonzo is the first domino. extending him now rather than picking up his option is the wise move

In terms of negotiation leverage picking up his option should be viewed as part and parcel of moving towards an extension.
Unless you're thinking the Pats are 'just picking up his option'
 
The only reason the pats haven't signed a contract yet is incase an injury happens this year is my guess. Getting it down early saves cash. But you also are locked in. They want Gonzo to show he can be healthy again this year and are willing to pay a few million to see proof of concept.
The only reason the Patriots haven't signed a contract yet is because Gonzalez' camp is waiting for others to sign first so they can have leverage at this point.

5th year option + 2 franchise tags is on the table. It's not perfect, but he's here for 4 more seasons no matter what. I hope the Patriots don't go this route, but if his camp is waiting to maximize money, that option is definitely there. Him having the same agent as other players up for that sort of money is a monkey wrench in the plan.
 
In terms of negotiation leverage picking up his option should be viewed as part and parcel of moving towards an extension.
Unless you're thinking the Pats are 'just picking up his option'
Can you go easy on the whole common sense schtick thing? It's messing with the nonsense factor this board relies on.
 
Can you go easy on the whole common sense schtick thing? It's messing with the nonsense factor this board relies on.

Sorry my man, I know logic isn't what most folks are expecting here, common sense having become a superpower and all.
Will you accept my apology or would you rather just hit me?
 
In terms of negotiation leverage picking up his option should be viewed as part and parcel of moving towards an extension.
Unless you're thinking the Pats are 'just picking up his option'
I would hope the former and not the latter
 
Like sands through the hourglass, and the murder of 2 thugs by an NFL player in a bloody white suit so are the days of our lives.



I'm a little embarrassed that I get the reference.
 
5th year option + 2 franchise tags is on the table. It's not perfect, but he's here for 4 more seasons no matter what.

Worth clarifying for some folk's sake, he's here for 4 more seasons should the Pats decide to go that route vs exercising a firm business decision to trade the asset
 
The only reason the Patriots haven't signed a contract yet is because Gonzalez' camp is waiting for others to sign first so they can have leverage at this point.

5th year option + 2 franchise tags is on the table. It's not perfect, but he's here for 4 more seasons no matter what. I hope the Patriots don't go this route, but if his camp is waiting to maximize money, that option is definitely there. Him having the same agent as other players up for that sort of money is a monkey wrench in the plan.
I think rule of thumb is the 5th year option number ($18m-ish) and the 2 franch numbers ($24-$25m ish projected) are the basis for the guaranteed portion of an extension.
if the Pats guarantee 4 years of his deal, he is looking at something like 4/$130-$135 with $105 ish guaranteed, with $60m-ish fully guaranteed, I assume that is a "fair" deal.
I believe the Pats offer those numbers. Does Gonzo accept?
 
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