NFL News Giants trade DT Dexter Lawrence to CIN for #10 pick

[neuronet]

Honestly for us both choices are questionable. I really do not think that Brown should be a priority, he would help the offense but he is not a necessity

How is he at blocking? Is he too good for that or is he willing to get his hands dirty? Obviously he’s a deep threat and Maye would immediately have his binky. I think that would be good. But he already has some decent weapons. What he really needs is decent protection

 

[Triumph]

Just because the Giants fleeced the Bengals doesn’t mean the Eagles are going to fleece us for Brown.

The only way out is to draft a WR at # 1.

 

[Triumph]

Of course Brown isn't a necessity. And yes, he would help.

Oops, I missed your point.

A replacement for Diggs is a must have.

I cannot believe that some people here want to go into this season with this current WR group.

 

[Wozzy]

Same old story.

Dude is 29 looking to get a big payday and NY just traded him in on a shiny new player on a rookie contract that won't crash the cap.

AB J is in the same boat. F him and his BS.

AJ Brown isn’t asking for more money, he wants to go to better passing offense. He’s a WR, that’s not unreasonable. These two situations are not the same.

The Bungles got fleeced.

Don't get me wrong they need a DT, but the Giants and Lawrence were at an impasse.

You telling me you couldn't talk Harbaugh down to a 2nd or even a 3rd?

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I think teams are moving away from long term management into more focus on "windows to compete". Only one team can win it each year and you have to really load the roster up to be that team. If you try to manage for the long haul, you're like to be a bridesmaid, never a bride IMO. Once you've identified that you have the right QB and enough around him to start pushing chips, in you really gotta go for it - more aggressive contract structures, paying higher trade comp for players, etc.

That's driving prices up on guys league wide. CINC has the QB and they have good pieces in place, so they're being aggressive going for the rest. Part of it is that they're not just trying to compete for a title, but also compete enough so that Burrow doesn't demand out.

 

[Triumph]

AJ Brown isn’t asking for more money, he wants to go to better passing offense. He’s a WR, that’s not unreasonable. These two situations are not the same.

Because he already got paid.

His contract comes with him unless the Eagles take some of the pain away.

 

[Wozzy]

Because he already got paid.

His contract comes with him unless the Eagles take some of the pain away.

Dexter Lawrence already got paid, but he wants a pay raise. Brown is not asking for more money.

Apples/oranges…. plus the Pats aren’t (better not) trading a first.

 

[Bill Lee]

I think teams are moving away from long term management into more focus on "windows to compete". Only one team can win it each year and you have to really load the roster up to be that team. If you try to manage for the long haul, you're like to be a bridesmaid, never a bride IMO. Once you've identified that you have the right QB and enough around him to start pushing chips, in you really gotta go for it - more aggressive contract structures, paying higher trade comp for players, etc.

That's driving prices up on guys league wide. CINC has the QB and they have good pieces in place, so they're being aggressive going for the rest. Part of it is that they're not just trying to compete for a title, but also compete enough so that Burrow doesn't demand out.

It's a team sport. Just having the QB and WR pieces right isn't enough.

CIN's OL situation is terrible. They are going nowhere. This was a dumb trade.

 

[dliverey44]

Of course Brown isn't a necessity. And yes, he would help.

Oops, I missed your point.

Sorry, my point is we should not trade for him

 

[captain stone]

Just because the Giants fleeced the Bengals doesn’t mean the Eagles are going to fleece us for Brown.

My fear is that the crisis management team will insist that AJB is acquired even at the cost of our 2027 1ST-rounder PLUS BootyTime...
I'm giving the Fecals only our 2nd-rounder, period. No BootyTime for them.

 

[PatsFan2]

Seems like a lot for this older player.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

He's probably better than any other DT they could add in this draft, so I understand giving up the 10th overall pick. The value of drafting a top player, though, is that the performance far exceeds the compensation. Adding a huge contract undercuts the move, though I'm a big fan of Dexter Lawrence. He can be transformational in the middle of a DL.

But in the end, this is still the Bengals we're talking about lol.

 

[Triumph]

Dexter Lawrence already got paid, but he wants a pay raise. Brown is not asking for more money.

Apples/oranges…. plus the Pats aren’t (better not) trading a first.

Why on earth would ABJ ask for more? He is scheduled to get 29 million in guaranteed salary for 2026. His contract is entering year 3.

Lawrence was at the end of his contract because the deal he signed in 2023 expires in 2026.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I applaud the bengals for being bold on this trade!

I think Lawrence fills a need with a quality and the number 10 pick this year would be a late 1st round pick in a real draft year!

 

[Wozzy]

Why on earth would ABJ ask for more? He is scheduled to get 29 million in guaranteed salary for 2026. His contract is entering year 3.

You’re the one that suggested Lawrence was greedy and Brown was in a similar situation. They weren’t at all.

Lawrence had two years left on his deal and thought he earned a raise. Brown just wanted to play in a better passing offense, it had nothing to do with money.

Lawrence was at the end of his contract because the deal he signed in 2023 expires in 2026.

Lawrence’s Giant contract ran through 2027.

Dexter Lawrence | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Dexter Lawrence signed a 1 year, $28,000,000 contract with the Cincinnati Bengals with an average annual salary of $28,000,000.

www.spotrac.com

 

[rkarp1]

just to correct some misinformation here.
if Brown is traded, to any team, he has $33m guaranteed on his current deal remaining.
-in 2026, $29 million in total compensation is fully guaranteed. This consists of a $1.3 million base salary, a $250,000 workout bonus, and a $27.45 million option bonus that became guaranteed in early 2025.
-in 2027, $4 million of his base salary is fully guaranteed. The remainder of his 2027 salary ($16.75M) is currently nonguaranteed.
-in 2028 and 2029, there is no remaining guaranteed money

to assume Brown, once traded, is not looking for 1 more deal, is foolish. he is essentially on a 1/$29m deal, and after 1 year, if cut, he has a $4m dead cap hit. mostly the same deal Diggs played on last year.
this is actually a good to great deal for his new team if he is traded, and if he does not hold out for more money.
so that begs the question, what is a 29 years old WR worth in a trade, that is under a 1 year deal?

 

[Triumph]

You’re the one that suggested Lawrence was greedy and Brown was in a similar situation. They weren’t at all.

They absolutely are.

Both players are Starters.
Both players are approaching 30.
Both players cost a 1st round pick.
Both players griped and wanted to be traded.

Lawrence had two years left on his deal and thought he earned a raise.

Wrong

2026 was the final year of Lawrences contract hence why the Giants were in contract talks. A 4 year contract signed in 2023 is over after the 2026 season.

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On May 4, 2023, Lawrence signed a four-year, $90 million extension with the Giants.<a href="Dexter Lawrence - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>35<span>]</span></a>

Dexter Lawrence - Wikipedia

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Brown just wanted to play in a better passing offense, it had nothing to do with money.

AB J shot his way out of Tennessee and now if traded Philadelphia too.

Money will be an issue with Brown too.

Lawrence’s Giant contract ran through 2027.

Dexter Lawrence | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Dexter Lawrence signed a 1 year, $28,000,000 contract with the Cincinnati Bengals with an average annual salary of $28,000,000.

www.spotrac.com

Still false.

Sportrac is known for not being accurate. Use your toes to count 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026.

 

[Wozzy]

They absolutely are.

Both players are Starters.
Both players are approaching 30.
Both players cost a 1st round pick.
Both players griped and wanted to be traded.

Both players have arms
Both players have teeth
Both players… good grief

Wrong

2026 was the final year of Lawrences contract hence why the Giants were in contract talks. A 4 year contract signed in 2023 is over after the 2026 season.

The Giants were in contract talks because Lawrence was publicly grousing he deserved more money. Harbaugh stopped very quickly because it would set a bad precedent in the first offseason of his Giant tenure.

AB J shot his way out of Tennessee and now if traded Philadelphia too.

Money will be an issue with Brown too.

Brown didn’t “shoot his way out of Tennessee” genius… his rookie contract was up and the Titans GM didn’t want to pay him.

So even though AJ Brown wants to leave because of Jalen Hurts inability to pass, money will be an issue because you say so… sounds legit.

One issue was based on money, the other on style of play around him…. not the same.

 

[Wozzy]

just to correct some misinformation here.
if Brown is traded, to any team, he has $33m guaranteed on his current deal remaining.
-in 2026, $29 million in total compensation is fully guaranteed. This consists of a $1.3 million base salary, a $250,000 workout bonus, and a $27.45 million option bonus that became guaranteed in early 2025.
-in 2027, $4 million of his base salary is fully guaranteed. The remainder of his 2027 salary ($16.75M) is currently nonguaranteed.
-in 2028 and 2029, there is no remaining guaranteed money

to assume Brown, once traded, is not looking for 1 more deal, is foolish. he is essentially on a 1/$29m deal, and after 1 year, if cut, he has a $4m dead cap hit. mostly the same deal Diggs played on last year.
this is actually a good to great deal for his new team if he is traded, and if he does not hold out for more money.
so that begs the question, what is a 29 years old WR worth in a trade, that is under a 1 year deal?

They would and should rework his current deal anyway. The last years of a previous mega deal is never team friendly. They and Brown are probably both aware this will be his final contract and it will have some protections in place for age and playing incentives. Brown is 29, he’s got 2-3 good years left in him.

 

[rkarp1]

They would and should rework his current deal anyway. The last years of a previous mega deal is never team friendly. They and Brown are probably both aware this will be his final contract and it will have some protections in place for age and playing incentives. Brown is 29, he’s got 2-3 good years left in him.

I would prefer Brown on a 1/$29m than a 3/$75m deal with $40m guaranteed