If Moses retires, these may be one-year options.

[Triumph]

I agree 100%.

Both Vrabel and Moses want Moses to stay and be as good as last year.

It doesn't follow that we should go with Campbell and Moses as OT's with very weak backups.

The focus on FB indicates that Maye will have a body guard on his left during passing downs. If Campbell does get beat there is a another line of defense before getting to Maye.

 

[Real fan 02]

The focus on FB indicates that Maye will have a body guard on his left during passing downs. If Campbell does get beat there is a another line of defense before getting to Maye.

I think what's getting lost here is offensive lineman don't sub in/out like defensive guys. There isn't one team in this league we can say "oh this team has excellent back up OTs". Offensive lineman have tons of pride look at Logan mankins playing the season on an ACL injury that year. These guys take pride in protecting the QB. They don't want to come off the field. Yes, we need to strengthen depth and ultimately have a replacement for Moses next season but shirt of that the OL is solid. Really like the vera-tucker pick up.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

No indications Moses is retiring. Could his level of play fall off a cliff to where he needs to be replaced? Sure, that's always a real threat with someone that age. It's why many have advocated for a competent swing tackle or investing a high pick in an OT even if there isn't an immediate path to starting. I think it's pretty universally agreed that there's a good chance Moses is gone next year as a cap casualty and him playing well for a full season this year is a roll of the dice like it always is at that age.

 

[Wozzy]

To be more clear, if we went into camp with Moses and Bryant as aur RT's and Moses announced his retirement (or went on IR), I would expect us to sign a veteran free agent within a week.

They would have to sign someone assuming they didn’t already draft someone who looked good… that doesn’t mean much. The same would be true if Bryant got hurt in practice behind Moses, they would sign someone.

I have been hammering the table for another tackle, but I still think Bryant has potential to take over behind Moses. But you can’t build your team based of “maybe” and “possibly.” Even if they draft a tackle at 31 there is the distinct possibility he’d sit behind Bryant if Moses went down with injury. Vrabel clearly values veteran experience.

Moses slid in the draft because he spent a few years at the smaller American Conference program before transferring to the SEC for his final college season. He was good enough to keep Armand Membou pinned to the right tackle spot while he played the left. He has decent athleticism, he needs refinement and to work on his agility. Some prospects need development, it doesn’t make them bad.

Whenever Belichick had a position to fill he’d bring in at least 3-4 guys to compete for the job. Nothings changed, the 2026 Patriots just have the luxury this offseason to add prospects for next year and beyond. They filled the last 2025 starting positions in free agency. This draft is looking towards the future and having quality depth behind the starters.

 

[Wozzy]

No indications Moses is retiring. Could his level of play fall off a cliff to where he needs to be replaced? Sure, that's always a real threat with someone that age. It's why many have advocated for a competent swing tackle or investing a high pick in an OT even if there isn't an immediate path to starting. I think it's pretty universally agreed that there's a good chance Moses is gone next year as a cap casualty and him playing well for a full season this year is a roll of the dice like it always is at that age.

That and the possibility Campbell’s struggles at tackle continue.

Team building is preparing for every contingency and creating quality depth.

 

[rkarp1]

would it surprise anyone if the team has at RT over the summer; Moses, Bryant, Munford, Hudson, rookie day 3 draft pick

 

[Joey007]

Dumb thread. He hasn’t indicated at all that he’s going to retire. We may as well create one of these for Kevin Byard as well since he’s 33.

 

[rkarp1]

Dumb thread. He hasn’t indicated at all that he’s going to retire. We may as well create one of these for Kevin Byard as well since he’s 33.

lets assume retirement is off the table
but will he play as many games, at the same level, that he did last season. and if he misses games, is there a viable option behind him?

 

[Joey007]

lets assume retirement is off the table
but will he play as many games, at the same level, that he did last season. and if he misses games, is there a viable option behind him?

We’ll see after the draft. It just seems odd to speculate this now.

 

[Triumph]

I think what's getting lost here is offensive lineman don't sub in/out like defensive guys. There isn't one team in this league we can say "oh this team has excellent back up OTs". Offensive lineman have tons of pride look at Logan mankins playing the season on an ACL injury that year. These guys take pride in protecting the QB. They don't want to come off the field. Yes, we need to strengthen depth and ultimately have a replacement for Moses next season but shirt of that the OL is solid. Really like the vera-tucker pick up.

Agreed

Rarely do you see OL subbing in and out. NE did in 2001 with the C who couldnt shotgun snap, but it worked.

I wonder if NE will have 2 FBs on the 53 - Westover and Gilliam since that position will be a key cog in the 2026 NEP offense.

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed

Rarely do you see OL subbing in and out. NE did in 2001 with the C who couldnt shotgun snap, but it worked.

I wonder if NE will have 2 FBs on the 53 - Westover and Gilliam since that position will be a key cog in the 2026 NEP offense.

Makes sense.

Well. Westover if he makes the team likely ends up a PS candidate provided we have gilliam who is a far superior athlete and blocker.

 

[captain stone]

Are you sure? His coach believes in him..

More useless mumbo-jumbo from the Cheatard.

 

[captain stone]

Jones
To answer your indirect question, Ponder is our #3 EDGE rusher.

So who's the Other starting ED?

And Elijah Ponder as our #3, pardon my Irish, ****ing Sucks.

 

[captain stone]

???

Is anyone giving up on Bryant?

He is a 7th rounder who has shown coaches enough for him to come to 2026 camp as the imcumbent. His situation seems similar to Wallace.

I already have. Same for Mister Mumpsferd too.

 

[Wozzy]

So who's the Other starting ED?

And Elijah Ponder as our #3, pardon my Irish, ****ing Sucks.

Ponder is the #2 behind Landry as the starter at OLB, that’s a really good mix of old and young.

 

[captain stone]

Actually I’m a little shaky on the 4%. I’m going with 8% now.

You should've stuck with the 0 point 0.

 

[captain stone]

But seriously I do want us to take an OT and a OG in the draft. Who knows with Ownenu contract coming up next season.

I prefer Two OTs (including one with Substantial LT experience) and ZERO ****ing Guards.

 

[captain stone]

Additionally one has to wonder Munford & Durant were both here last season why aren't they re-signed but Marcus Bryant remains. What does that signal to you.?? Just worth mentioning..

Yessir Durant is even Worse than Mumpsferd; dude's complete ****ing Garbage. Same with the pizza-maker too.

 

[captain stone]

Well sir.. I'd mention that they were listed in @mgteich FAs list so I saw both players names listed and figured I point that out. Hence Hudson was signed & Mumford has gone on a FA visit most recently with the titans. Mumford was dealing with a knee and I believe Durant got injured last season as well no? I can't wait to see the great @captain stone his 4 am takes to this post maust. LOL

Almost forgot: Hudson sucks too. Just ask any Vagiants fan.

That's why we need to draft Two Offensive TACKLES.

 

[captain stone]

The focus on FB indicates that Maye will have a body guard on his left during passing downs. When Campbell does get beat there is a another line of defense before getting to Maye.

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