Patriots Injury News The Patriots placed WR Mack Hollins on IR

[DaBruinz]

This is a huge injury. He is Maye's security blanket.

Maye's security blanket is Hunter Henry. He also has a pretty good rapport with Hooper and Stevenson.

Maye has been taking the "throw to who is open" route.

Hollins has been good for the high-points over the middle and the occasional sideline. Now, Maye is going to have to work on getting Williams the ball when Williams is open. Maye had an issue last year and the beginning of this year of missing the open receivers because he'd hyper-focused on the top receivers. Now, he's doing a better job and it's paid dividends.

Diggs, Williams, Henry, Hooper, and Stevenson are going to have to step up. As is D'Ernest Johnson. I am not expecting a lot from Douglas because of the hamstring injury. It clearly affected him the last game after it happened. I am also not expecting Henderson to see a lot of snaps if he's dressed.

 

[DaBruinz]

That is not true. People here think he must be a good blocker because why else would he be on the field. But if you actually watch him block hes no more effective that’s the other WRs.

Be honest you haven’t watched tape of his blocking, you take the “widely held” misconception as factual. I don’t. I watch.

It’s fine to disagree but when you argue “someone told me” vs “I have analyzed” you don’t have a strong disagreement.

Now cower back to your cave.

YOU are the one who hasn't watched Hollins blocking. He's an excellent blocker and much more effective than Diggs, Chism, Pop Douglas, Boutte or Williams. You'd know this if you understood the game half as well as you pretend.

Seriously, Andy. You're ridiculous and have zero ability to evaluate what actually occurs during plays. You're the one who should go cower in a cave. 25 years on this board and you still are blathering the same BS without having learned anything from people who actually know something about the game.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Are we doing Novels now?

 

[patfanken]

Getting the bad news on 16-20 loss by the Chargers I came upon the further bad news that Mack Hollins was placed on IR. THAT mea b z the EARLIEST he could come back is the AFCCG . and we'll have to win 2 playoff games without him. at least.

Hollins is our only "big" WR and he has been a bid safety valve target and deep target on the sidelines. We really don't have a replacement. Discussion????

 

[maust]

Getting the bad news on 16-20 loss by the Chargers I came upon the further bad news that Mack Hollins was placed on IR. THAT mea b z the EARLIEST he could come back is the AFCCG . and we'll have to win 2 playoff games without him. at least.

Hollins is our only "big" WR and he has been a bid safety valve target and deep target on the sidelines. We really don't have a replacement. Discussion????

Eight pages of discussion so far Ken. You'll find it here:

Patriots Injury News Thread 'The Patriots placed WR Mack Hollins on IR'

Dec 27, 2025

• crownontherocks
• Replies: 309
• Forum: PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum

 

[palialka]

You mentioned Jiles, who's on the PS, and wasn't elevated this week.

Ah ok…I hadn’t read the latest roster update when I responded to your post.

It’s interesting that the Pats didn’t elevate any WRs. We’ll see if that’s just for the Jets. I imagine they’ll elevate a WR before the playoffs provided that Williams and Tonga are a “go” by then.

 

[palialka]

And he was referring to the fact you mentioned Jiles. Who wasn't elevated.

Yeah I get that now. I hadn’t read the latest roster update when I replied to his post.

The Pats will probably elevate a WR to the active roster before the playoffs start assuming that M. Williams and Tonga are ready.

 

[patfanken]

Hollins receiving yards per route run = 1.60
Diggs, Boutte, Douglass Williams yards per route run 1.84
That’s a 15% increase in production when the other receivers are running the routes
Again Hollins has made some plays, but we will be replacing him with a receiver more capable of getting open and making plays

True in one sense, but we are also replacing him with a rookie who Maye said this week has a LONG way to go to get in synch with him. It's better, but still not there yet, according to Maye.

 

[patfanken]

It was mentioned before but how about signing Javon Baker. He has a familiarity with Josh's system and Drew for a year and a camp. He's almost 6'2 and has been on a PS for the entire season. Maybe's he's learned something in Philly and SF. Anyone have a better idea. Is Gilles a better option?
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BTW- Hey only 8 pages late to the table. I'm improving.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I agree, but that's not how the rule is currently. The NFLPA should push for that change.

I think that the "logic" underlying the rule means it isn't going to change: they want to equalize the minimum "cost" of IR-DTR, so that teams don't get "lucky" for having a bye at the right time.

 

[Ring 6]

And when a .220 hitter who is a Golden Glove fielder gets injured you don’t just shrug and say it’s okay because he’s just a .220 hitter.

But that’s not part of the analogy. Hollins is not a gold glove fielder

 

[Ring 6]

YOU are the one who hasn't watched Hollins blocking. He's an excellent blocker and much more effective than Diggs, Chism, Pop Douglas, Boutte or Williams. You'd know this if you understood the game half as well as you pretend.

Seriously, Andy. You're ridiculous and have zero ability to evaluate what actually occurs during plays. You're the one who should go cower in a cave. 25 years on this board and you still are blathering the same BS without having learned anything from people who actually know something about the game.

No I have literally watched his blocks and I see no significant difference from other WRs.

If you think you are “the people who actually know something” you are both ignorant and blind to self evaluation.

Only a blowhard acts like another person isn’t entitled to their own evaluation even if you see it differently. This is why you actively insult half the posters on the board on a regular basis.

Bottom line you have no understanding of the game. You are the last person on this board who’s evaluation I would trust
It’s fine for people to disagree but you are both the guy who is wrong the most and the guy who calls other people wrong the most.

But you do ask posters to send you money, so there’s that

 

[Ring 6]

True in one sense, but we are also replacing him with a rookie who Maye said this week has a LONG way to go to get in synch with him. It's better, but still not there yet, according to Maye.

Not really. You are in part replacing him with a promising rookie who has made some incredible plays, but you are also replacing him with more reps for Diggs, Douglass and Boutte.
To date Hollins has played 68% of the snaps.
Boutte has played 59
Diggs has played 55
Douglass 27
Williams 26

If you were to split then evenly and had
Boutte 76
Diggs 72
Douglas 44
Williams 43

It’s hard for me to believe the offense suffered

 

[Ring 6]

People here think Hollins is a good blocker because he is a good blocker.

You have no place telling me why I use a phrase when you torture more phrases than anyone here. I used the term 'widely held' because Holins is literally widely held to be one of the best blocking WR's in the game by not just myself and most other posters here at PF but by the people who get paid to evaluate talent. In other words I don't place my opinion above theirs. I do place it above yours because you will say anything to score your imaginary internet points. You don't debate in good faith honestly you do not debate at all, you spout disingenuous nonsense. Having watched Hollins I can safely say he is a better blocker than any of NE's WR's and the equal of the TE's. The only reason anyone would say 5'10" Boutte and 5'8" Douglas can do the job Hollins does blocking is because they need to in order to support a flawed argument.

I've said it before, I do not quote you when you post nonsense because I do not wish to engage with you and I would prefer you not quote me and ask again that you refrain from doing so in the future. I'd block you but as many of us discovered during SBB's meltdown, many threads don't make sense when a high volume poster is blocked. I do not live to argue and I am not a 7 foot internet tough guy determined to fight every fight. In fact I find engaging with you to be unpleasant and best politely avoided, not that you'd understand anything about being polite online. I have no idea what you are like in the real world but here at PF you are rude and graceless in a way no one would survive IRL. I am the same guy here I am everywhere else; I'm a realist who'd rather laugh at the foibles of life than be beaten down by them

There was no reason to go personal in your post but since you have I want to clarify some things to you. I do not live in a cave. My wife of 49 years and I live in a home we built for our retirement and find very pleasant. I am a regular guy. I have never cowered IRL, I am certainly not about to do it on the internet. You should know neither I or anyone else I know of here abandons a debate with you out of a fear of being bested or a lack of testicular fortitude. We walk away because we're embarrassed we ever engaged with you in the first place. It is an exercise we all know going in is pointless and many of us chide each other in private when we see another of us 'Arguing with Andy.' There are even 'rules' and memes about it. They exist because we all know you will make whatever disingenuous statement, make up whatever stat, proclaim what others think. invent strawman argument after strawman argument, move the goalposts and resort to base insult to convince yourself you have carried the moment. That is not debating. You showed yourself a person of low character when you tried to run away from the cancerous air around your 'Andy Johnson' persona, like it was a coat you could discard, going so far as lying about not being 'Andy' then making up a nonsense cover story when the denial fell apart.

Now you can spout whatever you like without fear of rejoinder because I would rather let you declare victory than feed your need. Just know while you will of course see yourself superior in your imagined victory everyone else here will just see what they always do...

I know that you have done evaluated Hollins blocking on film. First because you dodged the issue and second because your opinion would be different. He is not more than an average blocking WR. I’d love to see all of the professional evaluations you reference but you aren’t interested facts. You are only interested in this bizarre fascination you have with me and trying to make yourself feel right.

If it is depressing or emasculating for you to interact with me, by all means don’t. Literally no one cares.

Of course you cower. You are so afraid of interacting with me you run away after 2 posts and go far, far out of your way to communicate that. And you went personal first. You run away because you are incapable of debating and YOU created rules and memes out of your inferiority complex.
You know as well as I do that every fact, stat and opinion I have posted here is 100% accurate.

You are a small man who throws insults and runs away.
Everything you have just posted is exactly what someone would post I response to someone who calls them out when they are wrong, with FACTS, and you don’t have the intellect or knowledge to debate.
It’s really a shame that you are so afraid. It’s only a message board, no one knows who you are, you don’t have to be embarrassed

 

[Ring 6]

Here are some stats from Ian’s database.

With Hollins on the field
Maye is 195/279 69.9% 2353 yards 14 TD 5 ints

Hollins NOT on the field
Maye is 126/174 72.4% 1594 yards 12 TD 3int

So that is 72.4% vs 69.9% 9.16 yards per attempt vs 8.43.
6.9 TD % vs 5.0 TD % and 1.7 int vs 1.8. All better with Hollins not on the field.

He also had been sacked 31 times with Hollins on the field and only 15 with him not. Once every 9 passes with Hollins on the field but once every 11.6 with him off the field.

The passer rating works out to 116.4 with Hollins on the bench and 104.7 with him on the field.

 

[PatsFan2]

It was mentioned before but how about signing Javon Baker. He has a familiarity with Josh's system and Drew for a year and a camp. He's almost 6'2 and has been on a PS for the entire season. Maybe's he's learned something in Philly and SF. Anyone have a better idea. Is Gilles a better option?
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BTW- Hey only 8 pages late to the table. I'm improving.

I thought he was a can't move miss player boy was I R.O.N.G.

 

[PP2]

It was mentioned before but how about signing Javon Baker. He has a familiarity with Josh's system and Drew for a year and a camp. He's almost 6'2 and has been on a PS for the entire season. Maybe's he's learned something in Philly and SF. Anyone have a better idea. Is Gilles a better option?
'

BTW- Hey only 8 pages late to the table. I'm improving.

From "That boy needs a haircut," to "big safety valve, deep target. Irreplaceable!" Yes Ken, I'd say you're improving.

 

[Betterthanmost]

My wild guess is that he got appendicitis and had appendectomy this week. Tracing the timeline from his enthusiastic last play celebration to abdominal injury reports from missing practice, this hypothesis sounds plausible.

 

[Triumph]

Coming from a guy who didn't care for the signing, I'm bummed he's out. This is a major blow to the offense. I was starting to like his "climbing the ladder" celebration that rubbed off on teammates. Clutch catches all season.

This news likely wont matter over the last 2 games, but If the Pats draw the Texans in the WC round, I can definitely see no Hollins hurting the Pats.

 

[Triumph]

That play is possible because of Mack's height.
Those layered throws are not easy to make when the second level defenders take a deep drop. Part of what makes those plays is possible is Maye having the trust to know he can throw it high and Mack can make a play.
You trade him out for Chism, or Williams or Pop, those throws aren't possible. So it effectively takes that play away.
McD will have to adjust, and it's not as easy as you make it to be.

Its living in a fantasy world to suggest that Pop, Chism and Williams will take up where Hollins left off.

Little Pop is having an off season and Williams is a race horse WR and not a middle of the field Laborer WR like Hollins. Williams has only seen 16 targets all season and caught 7 for a 44% catch rate. That's not clutch. Chism is the 5' - 10" Great White Hope. To date, 0 targets and after hardly playing 25 snaps on offense all season. Chism is going to come in and save the day?

McDaniels will have to look to Rahm and Hendo is the pass game.