PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots Fall 35-31 to the Bills

[ErniesPinkStripes]

@Lambeau12 is a solid other-team-fan, I will say. A little easier to like because he's NFC, but still.

Yea my bad Lambeau is cool too

 

[Ring 6]

I must have missed something. How much time did the Offense have left after the last BUF score?

Was it enough for a top Offense to move down the field and score?

The Defense couldn't stop BUF IN THE SCOND HALF. That is indeed on them.

But the Offense could score at the end when it counted. THAT is on them.

The plan for a great team and Offense cannot be to start fast and go ahead by 10 more at the half and then hold on and blame the Defense if they lose.

Perhaps if at least 2 of our WRs were not mauled on the last play there would have been an opportunity to run an offense.

 

[Ring 6]

Next week against the Ravens will be an extremely difficult game to win.

Its a must win home game for the Ravens

Patriots can afford to lose the game and still make the playoffs.
Ravens D looked very good today.
Maye will have his hands full.

Get all your negatives in because that game is your swan song.

 

[PatriotSpy]

To play the type of physical game they did against the Giants and not carry that over to this game against the Bills is very disappointing to say the least.

 

[neuronet]

I don't care. I can't stand it!

 

[Guts]

Another reason to get a security blanket for Maye in the off-season. Diggs is okay but would've loved him a few years earlier

 

[slash83]

To play the type of physical game they did against the Giants and not carry that over to this game against the Bills is very disappointing to say the least.

The bye did em
No good.

 

[FCB02062]

Our MVP candidate has raised the players around him all season to an 11-3 record after being 3-11 at this point a year ago. Which MVP candidate are you giving me that is undefeated?

Drake Maye failed in the clutch today. The reigning MVP came through in the clutch today. Maybe Maye has a good game next week and they win. We'll see. If Maye leads a come from behind win next week on the road in Baltimore it'll be the first of his career. And all the Maye can't bring a team back from behind talk will stop. As we stand here after 14 games, Drake Maye has one win vs a team with a winning record.

 

[slash83]

Drake Maye failed in the clutch today. The reigning MVP came through in the clutch today. Maybe Maye has a good game next week and they win. We'll see. If Maye leads a come from behind win next week on the road in Baltimore it'll be the first of his career. And all the Maye can't bring a team back from behind talk will stop. As we stand here after 14 games, Drake Maye has one win vs a team with a winning record.

Drake Maye got robbed by a blatant holding in the middle of the damn field that wasn’t called. I’m not saying they’re gonna go down and score to win the game, but to say Maye failed is a joke, least give the dude a fair chance to lead his team instead of ending the game on a ridiculously obvious non call.

 

[mgteich]

Didn’t say it’s a poor defense, don’t believe they’re as bad as they were today. Getting Williams and Spillane back will def help. But if relying on stopping teams from getting into the RZ that’s a risky and dangerous way of going about things.

fair enough

 

[mgteich]

Drake Maye got robbed by a blatant holding in the middle of the damn field that wasn’t called. I’m not saying they’re gonna go down and score to win the game, but to say Maye failed is a joke, least give the dude a fair chance to lead his team instead of ending the game on a ridiculously obvious non call.

Drake was not robbed. **** happens. He had a chance with the ball with a couple of minutes to go. In the end, that is all a top QB can ask for.
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Drake just failed to what Allen, Mahomes, Herbert and even Nix have down many times. He failed to take his team on his back and lead them to a winning scoring drive at the end of the game.

Give Drake time and experience and he too will succeed in such situations.

 

[mgteich]

To play the type of physical game they did against the Giants and not carry that over to this game against the Bills is very disappointing to say the least.

Your opponent truly matters. The giants are a truly terrible team. BUF is one of the next in the NFL, with one of the best QB's and one of the best Offenses in the NFL.

The team was physical and more than good enough for almost a half, destroying BUF's Offense and their Defense.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Patriots started this game like it was their Super Bowl. They were energized, running tricks plays (reverses and throwbacks), and playing with their hair on fire. But once the adrenaline wore off, the game became about who is the better overall team.

The Bills started this game like a 6am shift at Wendy’s on a Tuesday. Going through the motions and running simple plays. They had no adrenaline to wear off because they had none to start with. They ran their usual boring plays and eventually the greater overall talent began to be the deciding factor on a play by play basis, and the Patriots were simply overmatched. That’s why they couldn’t stop anything Buffalo did and also why they couldn’t move the ball in the second half.

Pats will be ready for primetime in a year or two, but they just aren’t there yet. Division winner or not.

I gotta admit I didn't read a single word in this post I just saw GreenCow come back after going into hiding from the first meeting and laughed out loud. Of COURSE this little worm comes out from hiding when they win. Make sure you're here when we win the third meeting cupcake

 

[slash83]

I love the fast start and getting out on top like that. Only thing I was little concerned about was too much too quick, they fizzled out, Buffalo took our best shot, hung in there and came back with a vengeance.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Was the second half zone?

From Evan Lazar Game observations :

Despite playing their highest single-game man coverage rate of the year (51.5%)

If they played man at a 45.5% rate in the 1st half and finished at 51.5%, that means they played more man in the 2nd half

 

[Lagaffe_07]

For everyone focusing on Maye, not being clutch or some ****, it's ignoring that the offense put up 31 points today. In fact, when the Bills first get their lead, the offense immediately answered. Then the D failed again.

during the 10 game winning streak the defense hasn’t allowed more than 23 points and sealed a game multiple times at the end when the offense often goes awol in the 2nd half.

Can’t expect the D to held teams under 23 points every games. Yesterday was a game the Patriots needed Drake Maye to win. And they way he played in the second half like a scared puppy when it mattered the most don’t give me confidence in his ability to win a shootout.

Bo Nix 8 4QC / 9 GWD
Caleb Williams 7 4QC / 6 GWD
Jayden Daniels 4 4QC / 4 GWD
JJ McCarthy 1 4QC / 1 GWD
Drake Maye 0 4QC / 1 GWD
Michael Penix 0 4QC / 0 GW

 

[slash83]

during the 10 game winning streak the defense hasn’t allowed more than 23 points and sealed a game multiple times at the end when the offense often goes awol in the 2nd half.

Can’t expect the D to held teams under 23 points every games. Yesterday was a game the Patriots needed Drake Maye to win. And they way he played in the second half like a scared puppy when it mattered the most don’t give me confidence in his ability to win a shootout.

Bo Nix 8 4QC / 9 GWD
Caleb Williams 7 4QC / 6 GWD
Jayden Daniels 4 4QC / 4 GWD
JJ McCarthy 1 4QC / 1 GWD
Drake Maye 0 4QC / 1 GWD
Michael Penix 0 4QC / 0 GW

I don’t expect the defense to give up 5 straight TD drives, I don’t expect the defense to give up a 3rd and goal TD from the 15. I don’t expect special teams to let Buffalo to average 40 yards a return on kickoffs. Please, Maye has been better than every QB on that list, and it hasn’t been particularly close.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

A lot of that is because Nix has not always been able to score during the 1st 3 qtrs and needs the late drive. The Pats have not needed 4th QTR drives to win. Not saying he would or would not but to point at someone being clutch by high lighting that they are more mid during the entire game is not a great selling point.

The same way that to win a game the D has to held the opposing team under 23 points to win isn’t a great selling point either.

Drake Maye had opportunities to make comebacks last year and didn’t. It was put on « he is a rookie ».

He completely stunk in the second half of the raiders game after also having the lead at half time. It was put on « it’s week 1 »

Had an awful turnover driving to win the game against Pittsburgh. It was put on « he hasn’t played in a full season amount of games yet ».

 

[Lagaffe_07]

I don’t expect the defense to give up 5 straight TD drives, I don’t expect the defense to give up a 3rd and goal TD from the 15. I don’t expect special teams to let Buffalo to average 40 yards a return on kickoffs. Please, Maye has been better than every QB on that list, and it hasn’t been particularly close.

And I expect a franchise QB to be able to put a game on his back when the rest of the teams plays like sh*t.

If Drake Maye went toe to toe with Allen in the 2nd half and lost because Allen had the ball last so be it. That’s not what happened thought.

Multiple times this year the D bailed the offense at the end of games after the offense again went missing in the 2nd half. Today the defense needed Drake Maye to return the favor and bail them out and he didn’t.

Has Drake Maye played better than all those QB I listed this year? Yes. It doesn’t make him clutch thought. Honestly, I fear more and more that Drake Maye’s comp is Aaron Rodgers without the douche part. Amazing tools and elite arm talent. Can play at a very high level but can’t comeback to save his life.

 

[slash83]

And I expect a franchise QB to be able to put a game on his back when the rest of the teams plays like sh*t.

If Drake Maye went toe to toe with Allen in the 2nd half and lost because Allen had the ball last so be it. That’s not what happened thought.

Multiple times this year the D bailed the offense at the end of games after the offense again went missing in the 2nd half. Today the defense needed Drake Maye to return the favor and bail them out and he didn’t.

Has Drake Maye played better than all those QB I listed this year? Yes. It doesn’t make him clutch thought. Honestly, I fear more and more that Drake Maye’s comp is Aaron Rodgers without the douche part. Amazing tools and elite arm talent. Can play at a very high level but can’t comeback to save his life.

Didn’t he outplay Allen toe to toe in their first match up? Can’t win em all, can’t beat the refs and a good team. They were bound to lose another game, and it came against probably the best QB in football. Onto next week man…