Daniels: Vederian Lowe played much of 2024 with torn labrum

[Clonamery]

I expect he will be improved over last year, how much remains to be seen. I think we’re going to be ok.

My expectations are Lowe, very Lowe.

 

[pazrul72]

I said it preseason and I'll echo it again, Lowe gets entirely too much hate and is seen as WAY worse then he actually is. Is he a top 20 LT in the league? Certainly not, he needed to be replaced and Campbell has done that admirably. He also is not a dumpster fire, doesn't belong on the field, our offense is doomed when he does play. That would be Newhouse or Jacobs both of whom give me PTSD hearing their names. Last year there were many times Lowe held up for 2.5 seconds, only to see the QB running his way to get away from the guy Jacobs let by in 1. If Lowe is your worst lineman instead of your best lineman I think he will be able to handle 4 or 5 games without losing too much. Just have to give him the help available instead of it going to everyone else on the line who sucks worse.

 

[Clonamery]

I said it preseason and I'll echo it again, Lowe gets entirely too much hate and is seen as WAY worse then he actually is. Is he a top 20 LT in the league? Certainly not, he needed to be replaced and Campbell has done that admirably. He also is not a dumpster fire, doesn't belong on the field, our offense is doomed when he does play. That would be Newhouse or Jacobs both of whom give me PTSD hearing their names. Last year there were many times Lowe held up for 2.5 seconds, only to see the QB running his way to get away from the guy Jacobs let by in 1. If Lowe is your worst lineman instead of your best lineman I think he will be able to handle 4 or 5 games without losing too much. Just have to give him the help available instead of it going to everyone else on the line who sucks worse.

Yeah he's not good but he's our not good. If Maye is still alive by the time we play Miami again, job done.

Report Card Grade: C-

 

[rkarp1]

Lowe is 6'5" and 315 lbs. 35.5 arms. 21 career nfl starts.
seemingly better coached this year.
contract year
I thought he looked fine last week. does he have a 4 game run in him to get another contract?
I say yes

 

[Clonamery]

Lowe is 6'5" and 315 lbs. 35.5 arms. 21 career nfl starts.
seemingly better coached this year.
contract year
I thought he looked fine last week. does he have a 4 game run in him to get another contract?
I say yes

1. Maye is alive
2. Lowe doesn't get hurt in the 4+ games
3. We go 2-2 or better

 

[rkarp1]

1. Maye is alive
2. Lowe doesn't get hurt in the 4+ games
3. We go 2-2 or better

Buff and Balt fighting for their playoff lives will be tough games.
Jets and Miami are always a tough game

I think Lowe will provide adequate protection for Maye.
Maye will continue his top 5 mvp play
2-2 or better would be just fine (3-2 seeing as there are 5 games remaining)

 

[Real fan 02]

Lowe, Jordan/Robinson, Brown, Onwenu, Jacobs was the final line combo last year... funny, he gives up two sacks in the w12 miami game, we have a measley 269 yards of offense, but it is his 4th highest rated game... sometimes i don't understand the pff rating algorithm

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with more game experience this year, combined with better coaching, think the line will be adequate... hopefully *knocks wood x3*

Some fans have to remember just how dysfunctional and despondent the coaching was last season. Vrabel's not going to allow for lowe to play sub parr and get away with it like he did last season.. like the YMCA coaching staff did last year. He's gonna have to man up take the coaching and protect the QB that's his job that is where he's here..

 

[DaBruinz]

Lowe, Jordan/Robinson, Brown, Onwenu, Jacobs was the final line combo last year... funny, he gives up two sacks in the w12 miami game, we have a measley 269 yards of offense, but it is his 4th highest rated game... sometimes i don't understand the pff rating algorithm

2024 Patriots Offensive Line Combinations

2024 Patriots Offensive Line Combinations - A week-by-week breakdown of the starting offensive lineman, and the number of combinations used by the Patriots that season.

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with more game experience this year, combined with better coaching, think the line will be adequate... hopefully *knocks wood x3*

Which is why I ignore their "ratings" and focus on the data..

 

[Pape]

Which is why I ignore their "ratings" and focus on the data..

yeah, was agreeing with you with too many words

 

[Ring 6]

Some fans have to remember just how dysfunctional and despondent the coaching was last season. Vrabel's not going to allow for lowe to play sub parr and get away with it like he did last season.. like the YMCA coaching staff did last year. He's gonna have to man up take the coaching and protect the QB that's his job that is where he's here..

The consensus seems to be part of Lowe’s issues are focus and effort.
If that will ever get solved for him it really should be now.
He is a free agent this year. Mediocre LTs make a lot of money.
He has 4 games to remake his reputation and there are many teams that will spend a boatload of money on 4 game performance.

 

[Real fan 02]

The consensus seems to be part of Lowe’s issues are focus and effort.
If that will ever get solved for him it really should be now.
He is a free agent this year. Mediocre LTs make a lot of money.
He has 4 games to remake his reputation and there are many teams that will spend a boatload of money on 4 game performance.

Very good points there 6.. even a below average backup LT he could see a nice contract. He wasn't awful Sunday when Campbell went out..but then again Hendrickson wasn't playing either.. we are going to see if he's up to the task against this giants front. If he's up to the challenge and can be steady and solid you're right he stands a great chance to cash in somewhere.. likely safe to say our next back up LT will be in the draft.

 

[Ring 6]

Very good points there 6.. even a below average backup LT he could see a nice contract. He wasn't awful Sunday when Campbell went out..but then again Hendrickson wasn't playing either.. we are going to see if he's up to the task against this giants front. If he's up to the challenge and can be steady and solid you're right he stands a great chance to cash in somewhere.. likely safe to say our next back up LT will be in the draft.

Or it was Bryant in last years draft.

 

[Real fan 02]

Or it was Bryant in last years draft.

Is Bryant primarily a RT or swing OT?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Some fans have to remember just how dysfunctional and despondent the coaching was last season. Vrabel's not going to allow for lowe to play sub parr and get away with it like he did last season.. like the YMCA coaching staff did last year. He's gonna have to man up take the coaching and protect the QB that's his job that is where he's here..

I am now picturing a playbook sitting on a couch in a shrink's office.

 

[Ring 6]

Is Bryant primarily a RT or swing OT?

TBD

 

[rkarp1]

Is Bryant primarily a RT or swing OT?

when called on last game, he was awful. so for now, lets say neither

 

[Thelonious]

Ain't a "labrum" some kind of lady part?

What gives?

 

[jeffro]

Ain't a "labrum" some kind of lady part?

What gives?

I wonder if he is tough enough to play through torn labra on both sides.

 

[The Gr8est]

so... is this the "supposed to make me feel better" story?

Ah well... it is what it is... Suppose i gotta/gonna catch the VD fever and cheer him on for the next 4-6 weeks...

Why not?

Better coaching this year along with recovery from a previously unknown injury?

He is also well rested as opposed to the rest of the fatigued team.

Why shouldn’t we be optimistic?

We don’t always have to look for the negatives to dwell on.

 

[The Gr8est]

2024 was played with a torn labrum and no O-line coaching and he IMPROVED over his 2023 playing.

2023: 290 pass blocking snaps - 6 sacks, 3 hits, 29 hurries = 1 pressure allowed every 7.6 snaps
2024: 501 pass blocking snaps - 5 sacks, 5 hits, 23 hurries = 1 pressure every allowed 15.1 snaps

The 15.1 still is BAD, but a huge improvement over 2023.

It's interesting that all the sacks that Lowe allowed in 2024 came AFTER he suffered the Labrum tear against the Jets.

I'm not even expecting Lowe to be Tom Ashworth level, but if he can come close to that, then I think he'll be adequate until Campbell gets back.

If the Pats part ways with Lowe after this season he WILL be on another team’s roster next year.

He plays LT.