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NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Week 5 Other Games - Thursday Night Football Edition

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I understand, but the further we get from Bill's final couple of years here, the uglier they look to me. I supported and admired Bill until he was unworthy of support and admiration, until two or three years before he finally got the boot, then I didn't. These days I feel sorry for him and hope, as I have said here several times, that he gets the intervention and help he so obviously needs. But I am not gong to ignore the damage he has done as coach, as GM, to his reputation, probably to those close to him, just because once upon a time, pom poms were in order for the guy. His ill-treatment of Mac, and of other players, was ugly and in direct contravention of his obligation as well-compensated HC and GM to "do what is best for the team," and for the players.

My main feeling in the present circumstance, as I said in my post, is happiness for Mac's seeming redemption. That is hardly the stuff of "vindictiveness."
All fake news. Just hating.
 
Dear God. WTAF? Tommy Hodson Junior ****ing won ANOTHER NFL game??
I guess Shanahan is performing miracles out west.
Did Bourne ever have 10 receptions in a game here?
 
Enough already, turn the page mf'ers. No one is changing their opinions at this point and the constant BS has poisoned the stream we all swim in. The lack of consideration for the rest of us is insulting. Everyone (well almost everyone) engaged in it knows what they're inflicting on the rest of us but blows right past their own decency in the rush to get their shot in regardless of who catches the strays. It is mind-numbingly self indulgent and insufferably rude. That it is largely coming from otherwise worthwhile posters like yourself is just the cherry on top of the **** sundae you all are constantly serving up to the rest of us.
I disagree. The haters used to pretend they weren't haters now they are exposing themselves more and more. Just look at this thread. Bunch of fake Patriots fans. The best part is they somehow think a week 5 win for Mac and Shanahan somehow justifies their behavior lol. Clowns just keep coming out.......

 
I guess Shanahan is performing miracles out west.

Mea Culpa, there was time I thought Shanahan was good but overrated. That time has passed. I was wrong, he is 100% the goods.
 
Shanahan is the best guy in the NFL to turn a serviceable average QB into a winning QB but his cheeks pucker at the end of these games and he changes his play calling and not in a good way, he regularly goes away from what's been working when the game is on the line.

As for Mac he's playing well but still limited, he's in the same box as Darnold for me when they're playing at their top level in a good situation with good offensive coaching you could win 11 games no problem but the second you start to believe they turn back into a pumpkin in a big spot.

When Mac is leading and getting the ball out fast and on script he looks good, the minute he's trailing in game and having to hold onto the ball or make a play off script he's going to get sacked, shook and turn the ball over.
 
All fake news. Just hating.
I have blocked this loon (first and only block ever). Why am I still seeing his outbursts, and shouldn't they really be just between him and his therapist?
 
I have blocked this loon (first and only block ever). Why am I still seeing his outbursts, and shouldn't they really be just between him and his therapist?
Old man doesn't understand how the Internet works lol.

 
I know McDaniels doesn't always get a lot of credit, but look what he did with Mac in year one vs. Year two and the vast improvement in Maye from year one to this year. We no longer hear about spacing issues with receivers and all that incompetent stuff of the last three years. I think we're really lucky he's back and probably won't get another shot at HC anytime soon.
Criticism of Josh as OC is entirely unjustified, always has been. Just something to whine about.
 
I seldom swim with the school although if it passes by and happens to be headed in my direction I have no objection to sharing some good company. I suspect in this case though I am with the majority, this 'hater' crap has gone well past tiresome. We had 20 years of the greatest run any NFL fan base has ever been blessed with and now we have a section of that same fan base picking at the carcass just to score their perceived 'wins' on the internet.

Enough already, turn the page mf'ers. No one is changing their opinions at this point and the constant BS has poisoned the stream we all swim in. The lack of consideration for the rest of us is insulting. Everyone (well almost everyone) engaged in it knows what they're inflicting on the rest of us but blows right past their own decency in the rush to get their shot in regardless of who catches the strays. It is mind-numbingly self indulgent and insufferably rude. That it is largely coming from otherwise worthwhile posters like yourself is just the cherry on top of the **** sundae you all are constantly serving up to the rest of us.

I'm beginning to hold everyone involved in contempt and that's a crappy feeling to harbor when it's about posters I used to respect.
All of you please just stop and if you could return the adult version of you back to us that would just be great.

Well said my friend.
I disagree. The haters used to pretend they weren't haters now they are exposing themselves more and more. Just look at this thread. Bunch of fake Patriots fans. The best part is they somehow think a week 5 win for Mac and Shanahan somehow justifies their behavior lol. Clowns just keep coming out.......

Your pathological need to defend Bill every time someone disses him is bordering on Andy-esque. Clearly you didn't read @maust post. Please, I am begging you, let it go. We know you are Team Bill. Props to you. How about we just move on?
 
Agreed. We know better than most that Bourne is a WR3 at best. He had to feed Bourne because he had no other choice. Here is a rough approximation of the SF receiving depth chart, with injured players crossed off:

Brandon Aiyuk
George Kittle

Christian McCaffrey
Jauan Jennings
Ricky Pearsal

Kendrick Bourne

Mac Jones's WRs in 2022:
15 Nelson Agholor
84 Kendrick Bourne
16 Jakobi Meyers
1 DeVante Parker
18 Matthew Slater
11 Tyquan Thornton
44 Raleigh Webb

Not exactly murderer's row, but still, one would think with competent coaching one could do better than 26th in yards and 17th in scoring. The injury to James White leading to his retirement and the lack of any other RB that was a catching threat was a major problem that the staff should have addressed, IMO.

Seems that crew, or the resources used to get them, should have enabled Mac to match or exceed what he did in 2025:

 
I disagree. The haters used to pretend they weren't haters now they are exposing themselves more and more. Just look at this thread. Bunch of fake Patriots fans. The best part is they somehow think a week 5 win for Mac and Shanahan somehow justifies their behavior lol. Clowns just keep coming out.......

I am done with you Dude and you can F straight off for getting high on your own supply and not recognizing my appeal for what it was. You carelessly wound me with your lack of consideration my man and you're so far gone you don't even realize how unseemly it is. Please don't quote me to feed your need anymore, I would hate to miss your actual football stuff by blocking you but I'll be damned to be a party to this BS.
 

Well said my friend.

Your pathological need to defend Bill every time someone disses him is bordering on Andy-esque. Clearly you didn't read @maust post. Please, I am begging you, let it go. We know you are Team Bill. Props to you. How about we just move on?
When the haters stop hating I'll stop pointing out their stupid takes. It's really that simple.
 
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Old man doesn't understand how the Internet works lol.

Interesting. I still teach at the local college. Perhaps you should inform them I am 'round the bend and over the hill. You meanwhile sit there on your fat ass embarrassing yourself on a regular basis.
 
When the haters stop hating I'll stop pointing out there stupid takes. It's really that simple.
And from here out, you're Ring 2.0 then. You're not going to win a battle of wits on the internet.
 
I am done with you Dude and you can F straight off for getting high on your own supply and not recognizing my appeal for what it was. You carelessly wound me with your lack of consideration my man and you're so far gone you don't even realize how unseemly it is. Please don't quote me to feed your need anymore, I would hate to miss your actual football stuff by blocking you but I'll be damned to be a party to this BS.
Stop trying to silence me. I'll quote and respond to whoever and however I like thank you very much.
 
Interesting. I still teach at the local college. Perhaps you should inform them I am 'round the bend and over the hill. You meanwhile sit there on your fat ass embarrassing yourself on a regular basis.
That explains a lot
 
And from here out, you're Ring 2.0 then. You're not going to win a battle of wits on the internet.
I stopped trying to win a long time ago. I just like pointing out all the bull crap. And the day will come when the haters want to come back and I'll still be here.
 
And from here out, you're Ring 2.0 then. You're not going to win a battle of wits on the internet.
Ring is a really good member with really good thought out takes. And knows the game of football very well.
 
I stopped trying to win a long time ago. I just like pointing out all the bull crap. And the day will come when the haters want to come back and I'll still be here.
All you're doing to drowning out otherwise good football talk with your constant glazing. You and the "haters" are legitimately driving away good posters who have something to add to discussions. They know you'll react a certain way and you take the bait. Every. Single. Time. I don't think you realize how tiresome it is to the rest of us.

It's a dammed good thing I'm not a moderator. I'd deleted every freakin' post about it so it doesn't drive people away, which I can promise you I know for a fact it is, I 've spoke to guys who are sick of the BS. You're going to be awfully lonely here, trying to win an argument by yourself with people who probably just do it to push your buttons. @maust is correct, otherwise you have good insight on the team, but you have lost your way.
 
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