Is the 2025 defensive coaching Sub-Par ( Williams / Kuhr)

[Real fan 02]

I missed that. Do you have a link?

I didn't find a link on it. I was listening on ESPN radio over the weekend and one the host mentioned it. Wish I had a link to attach.

 

[PatsFan2]

So you're leaving either Hill or Waddle one-on-one with Alex Austin?

 

[Real fan 02]

So you're leaving either Hill or Waddle one-on-one with Alex Austin?

Both guys are mismatch for anyone one of our CBs not named gonzo.

 

[TommyD4207]

 

[TommyD4207]

Both guys are mismatch for anyone one of our CBs not named gonzo.

 

[PatsFan2]

So you're leaving either Hill or Waddle one-on-one with Alex Austin?

Ok, so he was shadowing Waddle: who had an ok game. Tua also missed him on what would have been a Big gain: I forgot the quarter.

 

[Steve102]

Ok. Let's hand wring. Let's panic.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Peppers/Digger are hybrid types that tend to be scheme specific. Not an indictment on this staff if they don't fit IMO.

Spillane is a decent player, nothing more. Elliss was an upside play to keep - not actually a good player yet. Don't see a huge red flag in the coaching with either of them not being great.

White missed 1/2 games. Seems early to rip him I think.

Overall I think the talent in this group was overrated. There's some good pieces, but also some serious weaknesses on positional levels. I view this defense like a water dam...

Sometimes things aren't gradual. It's like a dam blocking the flow of water. it can be one million square feet, but if there's one small hole then water is getting through. But it doesn't mean the whole one million square feet is bad. Plug up that one hole and it works again. I think this defense is overall solid on paper but there's some serious weaknesses that will make them look terrible at times. But another offseason to patch up those deficiencies and I think they'll be poised to be a terrific unit.

 

[PatsFan2]

Ok. Let's hand wring. Let's panic.

 

[TommyD4207]

Ok. Let's hand wring. Let's panic.

 

[signbabybrady]

If you find me dull, please ignore me. One of my failings is that I do not suffer fools gladly. Again, get help.

But if I block you then I can't continue to point out all the hateful, dumb, and factually incorrect things you constantly spew. I will not let that go unchecked. If you don't like it that block button works both ways.

 

[Real fan 02]

We cut DJ James and did kobee minor play any snaps? He can't be any worse?
.. goes back to why I said we should had still been in on another Veteran.. be nice if gilly signed back..

 

[PatsFan2]

We cut DJ James and did kobee minor play any snaps? He can't be any worse?
.. goes back to why I said we should had still been in on another Veteran.. be nice if gilly signed back..

Is Gilly free??

 

[PatsFan2]

We cut DJ James and did kobee minor play any snaps? He can't be any worse?
.. goes back to why I said we should had still been in on another Veteran.. be nice if gilly signed back..

I think Kobee Minor had the Slowest 40 to date coming out. He would make Brady look like Flash. Minor found Jake Bequette's damaging pictures that probably implicates Vrabel.

 

[Sciz]

We cut DJ James and did kobee minor play any snaps? He can't be any worse?
.. goes back to why I said we should had still been in on another Veteran.. be nice if gilly signed back..

Charles Woods was the #4 CB in week 2 after missing week 1 due to injury. He played one snap.

 

[JoeSixPat]

It's good to keep reminding ourselves that September is the pre-season of the modern NFL, with an extra game tacked on at the end, fewer mandatory camps, practices and conditioning, and overall creating a lower quality product coming out of the summer.

While this is a great opportunity to steal some wins from better teams that haven't yet gelled (as many of them, like the Patriots, only just played or practiced together for the first time in Week 1) it's also a reminder that it will take Ds a little longer than Os to hit their stride.

If you ask me, nearly all teams played mediocre Week 1, and in Week 2 you saw a lot of offenses explode, taking advantage of the Ds that were still getting their sea legs.

So don't panic. Make the playoffs, and peak then, using well honed depth developed throughout the season to fill the injury void that always happens. It's what separates the good teams from the great teams and Vrabel knows this.

 

[Water Boy]

I feel like we need all pro level LB play for this defense to be successful.

 

[Clonamery]

I feel like we need all pro level LB play for this defense to be successful.

Let's break this down.

"I feel" - we know

"we need" - oh, just sayin'

"all pro level LB play" - RLK2G

"for this defense to be successful" - Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak!

 

[Patsfan1645]

I still look at this as Gonzo is the key here.. he's a huge part of the defense and there's no one in the secondary on his level.. Austin is serviceable but has to start going from a reserve, Davis is solid but is pressed into a CB1 role.. he's best suited on a team's second option. They play man some formations and zone in others.. the safeties in Woodson who's a rookie but getting better each game. The secondary is the problem not the LBs.. we get plenty of pressure from the front 7.. they are in QBs chest each snap.. guys on the back end have to hold up..

I don't disagree that the secondary is worse at the moment but its doesn't excuse the poor play of the linebackers particularly when it comes down to fundamentals such as tackling.

 

[Real fan 02]

I feel like we need all pro level LB play for this defense to be successful.

The LBs are serviceable we need better play from the secondary as a whole we generate plenty of pressure from our front 7.. when you giving up big plays it exposes the LBs because now they have to compensate for the secondary.. reason for optimism is this defense is far from complete and we'd rather them have thier struggles earlier in the season...