Patriots Player Departure OFFICIAL 2025 Patriots roster cutdown day discussion / tracker

[jboston19]

 

[PatsFan2]

Good situation for Baker; if he can't learn from A.J. Brown or D Smith two of the best: he has no business in the NFL.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Bill Lee]

Then why was he signed here in the first place instead of somebody younger?

Good question, he definitely doesn't fit what we are looking for.

I think KB's release also shows we are favoring younger guys with potential upside over mid-level vets.

 

[Ross12]

It was weird that Baker deleted his Patriots social media, and then made the 53, and then was quickly cut, and is not on the PS. Guys on the 53 are almost always put on the PS. Odd series of events. Something happened.

I will go out on a limb and say something like this happened:

1. Vrabel told Baker that he will make the initial 53 but will be cut afterwards and sent to the PS, they just want to hold him for a day to shield him from the initial wave of claims
2. Baker got pissed that he wasn't going to really make the 53 and wiped his social media, tipping off the rest of the league that he isn't long for the roster anyway
3. This pissed off Vrabel, so even though he cleared waivers, Vrabel said "screw him" and didn't put him back on the PS
4. His overreaction may have factored into teams not putting in a claim, as a back-of-roster player is not worth the hassle of dealing with that drama

It's also possible that Baker himself chooses not to go to the Patriots PS since that requires player consent anyway.

 

[TomPatriot]

Then why was he signed here in the first place instead of somebody younger?

Or someone who is more of a fit. Only thing I can think of is that he was Dugger insurance? Idk.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Baker gonna get his ring now too. Wow

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It's also possible that Baker himself chooses not to go to the Patriots PS since that requires player consent anyway.

I just saw that Baker chose the Eagles PS over the Pats and others. Strange chose to move on too. Vrabel is not winning everyone over.

 

[TomPatriot]

I will go out on a limb and say something like this happened:

1. Vrabel told Baker that he will make the initial 53 but will be cut afterwards and sent to the PS, they just want to hold him for a day to shield him from the initial wave of claims
2. Baker got pissed that he wasn't going to really make the 53 and wiped his social media, tipping off the rest of the league that he isn't long for the roster anyway
3. This pissed off Vrabel, so even though he cleared waivers, Vrabel said "screw him" and didn't put him back on the PS
4. His overreaction may have factored into teams not putting in a claim, as a back-of-roster player is not worth the hassle of dealing with that drama

It's also possible that Baker himself chooses not to go to the Patriots PS since that requires player consent anyway.

Or maybe Todd Downing didn’t love the guy as a WR.

 

[203Pat]

If I had to guess they told Baker any time spent on the 53 man roster this year would be primarily on special teams and he didn't care for that and chose a fresh start over our practice squad. Can't say I blame him for wanting a change of scenery but at the same time he did himself no favors in the year he was here.

 

[Bill Lee]

I completely agree with you on this part. Social media has multiplied the ability to spread misinformation and disinformation at a rapid pace and stupidity, cruelty, and ignorance seems to be the norm for far too many.

Sad thing is that it's working as intended. Twitter's design goal right from the start was "friction-less communication" i.e. the message from one sender gets to all targets as soon as possible, ideally in fractions of a second. This is why it is (was?) such a challenge for them to do things like edit or delete tweets.

High tech before/during the Internet Boom was filled with naive optimists. I should know, I was one. My role was insignificant but I did read a lot of magazines and papers and went to a lot of conferences so I had a good feel for what the movers and the shakers were thinking back then. There was an underlying assumption that the world was filled with good actors, because that's how we saw ourselves. What to do with bad actors was a hard problem so that can got kicked down the road. As usual it was just assumed that somewhere down the line someone would come up with a solution, but now the toothpaste is out of the tube and it won't go back in easily if at all.

Bottom line is it was a giant social experiment that was born out of optimism. As one author wrote, what we ended up doing was giving the kids in the back of the class a megaphone. There still are a lot of good things that happen because of the Internet, but it often feels like the bad outweighs the good.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I will go out on a limb and say something like this happened:

1. Vrabel told Baker that he will make the initial 53 but will be cut afterwards and sent to the PS, they just want to hold him for a day to shield him from the initial wave of claims
2. Baker got pissed that he wasn't going to really make the 53 and wiped his social media, tipping off the rest of the league that he isn't long for the roster anyway
3. This pissed off Vrabel, so even though he cleared waivers, Vrabel said "screw him" and didn't put him back on the PS
4. His overreaction may have factored into teams not putting in a claim, as a back-of-roster player is not worth the hassle of dealing with that drama

It's also possible that Baker himself chooses not to go to the Patriots PS since that requires player consent anyway.

Or it's possible that nothing happened the way you think.

 

[Ross12]

Or it's possible that nothing happened the way you think.

OK

 

[jdlboot14]

I went off so many "insiders" who said Baker showed a lot of talent and promise and physical traits, etc... So I held out hope, but I NEVER saw even one element of that on the field at ANY time. We didn't loose anything here. He couldn't even out-preform Webb in a preseason game where he was targeted like 8 times and couldn't do a dang thing. We all knew Polk & Baker wouldn't be on the field this year, it was just a matter of how it all went down. Polk gets free money on IR to feel like he's still in the NFL, but he's done too.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Or maybe Todd Downing didn’t love the guy as a WR.

Based on his preseason performance that is a very safe assumption.

 

[203Pat]

Sad thing is that it's working as intended. Twitter's design goal right from the start was "friction-less communication" i.e. the message from one sender gets to all targets as soon as possible, ideally in fractions of a second. This is why it is (was?) such a challenge for them to do things like edit or delete tweets.

High tech before/during the Internet Boom was filled with naive optimists. I should know, I was one. My role was insignificant but I did read a lot of magazines and papers and went to a lot of conferences so I had a good feel for what the movers and the shakers were thinking back then. There was an underlying assumption that the world was filled with good actors, because that's how we saw ourselves. What to do with bad actors was a hard problem so that can got kicked down the road. As usual it was just assumed that somewhere down the line someone would come up with a solution, but now the toothpaste is out of the tube and it won't go back in easily if at all.

Bottom line is it was a giant social experiment that was born out of optimism. As one author wrote, what we ended up doing was giving the kids in the back of the class a megaphone. There still are a lot of good things that happen because of the Internet, but it often feels like the bad outweighs the good.

I graduated high school in 2005, and we were basically the last class to graduate before social media exploded. I remember the last couple of months of my senior year; a few girls were talking about Myspace. Then, fast forward only 6 months, and roughly 75% of the people my age had a Myspace page. Facebook came along a year or so later, and at first, it was a nice way to keep up with your high school friends and a quick way to learn about people you met in college. I don’t think many people at the time could have foreseen what it would devolve into now. Other countries are weaponizing different platforms to influence and corrupt elections, bullying, spreading hate, disinformation, and using it as a tool for human trafficking, etc.

I don’t think we have even seen the worst of it yet. I don't know if you have seen the movie Mountainhead. It isn't a great movie, but the overall premise is that the world devolves into total chaos because no one can discern if what they're seeing online is real or AI, and of course, some billionaires weaponize the situation to gain more power. My dad is in his mid-60s and routinely asks me about things he sees or reads on Facebook. Mostly all harmless, like he read that Tom Brady is buying the Patriots and will be their coach and shows me some crappy AI photo of him in a hoodie on the sideline, but it’s a concerning glimpse into how easy it is to fool people via AI and social media.

 

[PlainOldEd]

No it wasn't.

yes, it was. You are just so blindingly negative you can't remember... use "the google", read the stories. Try to stop being so miserable... it isn't good for your health.

 

[jimnance]

I CAN NOT STAND Jim Murray.

Have no idea who Jim Murray is but I can't stand him either

 

[Bill Lee]

I went off so many "insiders" who said Baker showed a lot of talent and promise and physical traits, etc... So I held out hope, but I NEVER saw even one element of that on the field at ANY time. We didn't loose anything here. He couldn't even out-preform Webb in a preseason game where he was targeted like 8 times and couldn't do a dang thing. We all knew Polk & Baker wouldn't be on the field this year, it was just a matter of how it all went down. Polk gets free money on IR to feel like he's still in the NFL, but he's done too.

In an ideal world we wouldn't make drafting mistakes, but it can be seen as a good sign that we don't stick with them once we realize they are mistakes. In this case we cut a 4th rounder but kept a UDFA we liked better. To me it's a good sign that the front office isn't high on its own supply.

It reminds me of the old saying, "marry in haste, repent in leisure"...

 

[Family]

I will go out on a limb and say something like this happened:

1. Vrabel told Baker that he will make the initial 53 but will be cut afterwards and sent to the PS, they just want to hold him for a day to shield him from the initial wave of claims
2. Baker got pissed that he wasn't going to really make the 53 and wiped his social media, tipping off the rest of the league that he isn't long for the roster anyway
3. This pissed off Vrabel, so even though he cleared waivers, Vrabel said "screw him" and didn't put him back on the PS
4. His overreaction may have factored into teams not putting in a claim, as a back-of-roster player is not worth the hassle of dealing with that drama

It's also possible that Baker himself chooses not to go to the Patriots PS since that requires player consent anyway.

You know how it goes.

When you break up with a girlfriend, it's I want to break up. No I want to break up.