Predictions ahead of Tuesday 4pm EST

[TommyD4207]

No thanks. Chance to win? His 36-51 career record suggests otherwise. Too many ints to win.

That's more wins than the rest of the roster combined. By nearly a factor of 10. I'm not a Winston fan, but both the QBs currently on the roster have an awful lot of work to get to 36-51. Hell, they have a combined 26 *starts*.

 

[Ring 6]

That's more wins than the rest of the roster combined. By nearly a factor of 10. I'm not a Winston fan, but both the QBs currently on the roster have an awful lot of work to get to 36-51. Hell, they have a combined 26 *starts*.

So losing a lot is good?

 

[farn]

There is a lot of debating going on for the backup QB. If Maye misses significant time, this team will almost certainly be picking in the top 8 in April 2026. These last few years, the backup QB hasn’t been a worry of mine at all. NE isn’t good enough to seriously care about a backup QB…

 

[Thelonious]

I am assuming that the roster has shown itself to be weaker, thinner than it seemed it might be immediately post-draft - in the usual flush of unwarranted optimism we see at that time each year - when talk of playoffs and double-digit wins were in the air. We all realize, I assume, that we are closer to the middle, even the beginning of this (latest) rebuild than many thought. Given that, it makes sense to me that where the team has choices between one of the many barely-good-enough-but-oh-well players on the team and some castoff from another team who shows some promise, we would give the edge to the latter, to the prospect who might have more potential upside. I would apply the same principle where there is a choice between two players on the current roster where one is an established mediocrity and the other is maybe a little ragged but might develop into something. As I have said all along, for me the purpose of this year is to make progress in the rebuild. I don't care whether we make the playoffs, except perhaps as evidence we really are making progress. I don't really even care that much how many wins we have. It's just a fact that the fewer wins you have, the better your draft pick, after all, as everybody in the world except for Jerrod Mayo seems to understand. For me, this season is 100% about the progress or lack of it.

This perspective will also incline me to reject the idea that we need to take on, either by trading good players on the current roster or - even worse- - trading picks for "proven" players - i.e. players who have enough miles on them what they have proven thier worth and who will likley therefore be past it by the time the team is actually competitive and can make actual use of them and who are likely to be overpriced in any case. It is too early for that. Wasting resorces to get an extra win or two in a year where wins don't really matter seems foolish to me,

The only cut I really want to see is Eliot Wolf. Him we defintiely could do without.

 

[Sect140]

I would greatly prefer Winston as a #2 than either Dobbs or Devito. Devito is a #3. maybe.

I think Vrabel really likes Dobbs, but claiming Winston for a 2-year contract for $6M makes a lot of sense to me. Winston is well able to step in and have a chance to win if Maye is down for a couple of games.

I think Winston enjoys throwing interceptions more than touchdowns.

 

[signbabybrady]

I am assuming that the roster has shown itself to be weaker, thinner than it seemed it might be immediately post-draft - in the usual flush of unwarranted optimism we see at that time each year - when talk of playoffs and double-digit wins were in the air. We all realize, I assume, that we are closer to the middle, even the beginning of this (latest) rebuild than many thought. Given that, it makes sense to me that where the team has choices between one of the many barely-good-enough-but-oh-well players on the team and some castoff from another team who shows some promise, we would give the edge to the latter, to the prospect who might have more potential upside. I would apply the same principle where there is a choice between two players on the current roster where one is an established mediocrity and the other is maybe a little ragged but might develop into something. As I have said all along, for me the purpose of this year is to make progress in the rebuild. I don't care whether we make the playoffs, except perhaps as evidence we really are making progress. I don't really even care that much how many wins we have. It's just a fact that the fewer wins you have, the better your draft pick, after all, as everybody in the world except for Jerrod Mayo seems to understand. For me, this season is 100% about the progress or lack of it.

This perspective will also incline me to reject the idea that we need to take on, either by trading good players on the current roster or - even worse- - trading picks for "proven" players - i.e. players who have enough miles on them what they have proven thier worth and who will likley therefore be past it by the time the team is actually competitive and can make actual use of them and who are likely to be overpriced in any case. It is too early for that. Wasting resorces to get an extra win or two in a year where wins don't really matter seems foolish to me,

The only cut I really want to see is Eliot Wolf. Him we defintiely could do without.

This kind of thinking always drives me nuts. Kind of a chicken and egg debate.

If you suck and you are always prioritizing future potential over a player who can help you win now then what actually makes your win total go up to make you think the future is now?

Basically we were a 4 win team last year and if we were to take every battle on the roster and hand it to kid instead of vet like putting Wilson at center instead of Bradbury. In theory that make our team stronger next year because Wilson will have more experience at center. But Bradbury could help us win more now. This might not be the best example since everyone thinks Bradbury sucks but now let's assume we choose the kid in every similar battle. So theory suggests we developed more kids for next year. But if it came at the cost of wins and we get to the end of the year and we're a 4 win team again then we start questioning if Maye can win and we would have a team again next year that we feel needs future talent over win now talent. Spin cycle rinse and repeat.

 

[TomPatriot]

The only cut I really want to see is Eliot Wolf. Him we defintiely could do without.

Eliot Wolf doesn’t matter. The only question is whether you liked the 2025 draft and FA/UDFA acquisitions If you did, you should think the Pats are on the right track. If not, then your ire should be directed at Vrabel, Cowden, Streicher.

 

[Love The Drake]

Eliot Wolf doesn’t matter. The only question is whether you liked the 2025 draft and FA/UDFA acquisitions If you did, you should think the Pats are on the right track. If not, then your ire should be directed at Vrabel, Cowden, Streicher.

I liked it other than I wouldn’t have taken a LT top 5 I would of traded down to grab Tet or Golden and come back up for my T.

Time will tell.

Damn Mayo for keeping us from Carter or Hunter.
Henderson looks like a grand slam pick in small sample sizes.
If we can get Willam’s to threaten the big play and quality snaps from our Rookie D line picks or better, and we got a starting or rotational safety,

Pick I hated the most was kicker,

Seems they were on the kid early and never got off of him.
But all I’ve seen is a below average leg strength and concentration misses.

Crazy.

 

[PatsfanTN]

Eliot Wolf doesn’t matter. The only question is whether you liked the 2025 draft and FA/UDFA acquisitions If you did, you should think the Pats are on the right track. If not, then your ire should be directed at Vrabel, Cowden, Streicher.

Unless he’s the “Rat”.

 

[Love The Drake]

Unless he’s the “Rat”.

Very true.

 

[Love The Drake]

Very true.

A rat in Wolfs clothing.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[signbabybrady]

Eliot Wolf doesn’t matter. The only question is whether you liked the 2025 draft and FA/UDFA acquisitions If you did, you should think the Pats are on the right track. If not, then your ire should be directed at Vrabel, Cowden, Streicher.

Curious so I looked it up and we fired Grier May 1st 2000. So we kept him on for the draft and then immediately got rid of him.

If Elliot Wolf truly doesn't matter then what is he still doing here?

Different times back then and Kraft has been preaching collaboration and trying to expand the management and coaching staff so a timeline from 2000 might not matter as much but for me the longer Wolf stays the more I assume he's part of the real collaborative and not just kept on to finish things he started last year.

I could still see them move on soon and maybe they just had a few more things for him to wrap up with than Grier had back in the day.

But if Wolf's still here and the college season gets going in full swing and we start getting towards the trade deadline then you can probably start assuming he is still involved in new things.

 

[Thelonious]

This kind of thinking always drives me nuts. Kind of a chicken and egg debate.

If you suck and you are always prioritizing future potential over a player who can help you win now then what actually makes your win total go up to make you think the future is now?

Basically we were a 4 win team last year and if we were to take every battle on the roster and hand it to kid instead of vet like putting Wilson at center instead of Bradbury. In theory that make our team stronger next year because Wilson will have more experience at center. But Bradbury could help us win more now. This might not be the best example since everyone thinks Bradbury sucks but now let's assume we choose the kid in every similar battle. So theory suggests we developed more kids for next year. But if it came at the cost of wins and we get to the end of the year and we're a 4 win team again then we start questioning if Maye can win and we would have a team again next year that we feel needs future talent over win now talent. Spin cycle rinse and repeat.

I understand what you are saying. I think the distinction is how much you value the current season as opposed to seeing the current season in the context of the rebuild. Both perspectives are reasonable. The essential purpose of any team is to win games, after all, so your perspective obviously makes sense. I am more focussed, as I see it, on winning more games later, accepting as the price of that winning fewer games now. It's probably more a matter of temperament than anything, a matter of what one chooses to value rather than a matter of who's right, who's wrong.

 

[Thelonious]

Eliot Wolf doesn’t matter. The only question is whether you liked the 2025 draft and FA/UDFA acquisitions If you did, you should think the Pats are on the right track. If not, then your ire should be directed at Vrabel, Cowden, Streicher.

This makes no sense to me whatever. Wolf is GM. He was GM for 2024. He had a hand in drafts previous to that under Bill. They all blew. He blows. Get rid of him. I don't see a need for a lot of nuance in this.

 

[Love The Drake]

Go get him Eff it.

 

[TomPatriot]

If Elliot Wolf truly doesn't matter then what is he still doing here?

He’s taking orders from Vrabel and doing what he’s told to do.

 

[TomPatriot]

This makes no sense to me whatever. Wolf is GM. He was GM for 2024. He had a hand in drafts previous to that under Bill. They all blew. He blows. Get rid of him. I don't see a need for a lot of nuance in this.

Wolf has a title. So what? He does what Vrabel tells him to do. We will see if he’s around or not. I think it depends on how he performs from here on out.

This is Mike Vrabel’s team. I don’t think that guy would have it any other way.

 

[Patsfan1645]

This makes no sense to me whatever. Wolf is GM. He was GM for 2024. He had a hand in drafts previous to that under Bill. They all blew. He blows. Get rid of him. I don't see a need for a lot of nuance in this.

It was obvious to me watching the videos of this years draft that the roll of Wolfe is that of managing and organizing. I don't think he had any real say in who was drafted. it was all Vrabel and Streicher. I dont mind keeping Wolfe around as the GM in a designed specific role. I am sure there are many aspects of managing a team that he does fine and someone is needed in those roles. Kraft will not allow another Coach/GM its just not going to happen. I also think that Vrabel is ok with Wolfe in the roll Wolfe currently has because if he wasn't I think Wolfe would have been shown the door.

 

[Thelonious]

He does have sort of rodent look.

I don't think he had any real say in who was drafted. it was all Vrabel and Streicher. I dont mind keeping Wolfe around as the GM in a designed specific role. I am sure there are many aspects of managing a team that he does fine and someone is needed in those roles.

What evidence can you offer for any of this? The facts of the matter shows that drafts in which Wolf has had a hand have been dismal for a number of years now. If you wish to deny the clear implications of this undeniable correlation, you must offer evidence which supports your assertions of Wolfe's competence. What is it?