Old Friend Jakobi Meyers reportedly wants out of Vegas

[Kdo5]

He had 75% of his production last year in 3 games.

This is like saying Deitrich Wise is a solid pass rusher because of his 8 sack season, when 4 came in one game.

Who was the last Pats receiver to have 1000 yards? Has to be Edelman. Only one who has been close would be…*checks*…Jakobi Meyers.

 

[Joey007]

Progress stopper? He’s better than any of our receivers. Legit #2 NFL receiver. I would welcome him back with open arms it’s just they’d probably ask too much for him.

The issue is that you bring him in and it’s yet another adjustment Maye has to make. As bad as last year was, we don’t want to do the opposite and dive into complete overwhelm.

Unless it’s an absolute star, I’m not sure it’s worth it right now to mess up the chemistry Maye is trying to build with current receivers.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Damn..

What in the world is this guy talking about? $30M per year?

 

[Joey007]

Who was the last Pats receiver to have 1000 yards? Has to be Edelman. Only one who has been close would be…*checks*…Jakobi Meyers.

He’s a reliable starting receiver.

Diggs was on pace for it last year, was a constant 1000 yard receiver in Buffalo.

 

[Kdo5]

The issue is that you bring him in and it’s yet another adjustment Maye has to make. As bad as last year was, we don’t want to do the opposite and dive into complete overwhelm.

Unless it’s an absolute star, I’m not sure it’s worth it right now to mess up the chemistry Maye is trying to build with current receivers.

Jakobi Meyers is a reliable, hard working, durable veteran. He consistently produces 800-1000 yard seasons and is exactly the type of locker room presence you want. He also grew in McDaniel’s system.

In other words he would be great for Drake Maye.

 

[RobertWeathers]

And we’d have cap space to use.

The thing we don’t know is how the coaching staff feels and pop and/or Boutte breaking out and whether Williams is ready to contribute.
But surely better than Hollins.

This my friend is where I would dump Hollins for Jakobi.

 

[BobDigital]

Agreed but…I think we just did that with Milton Williams, Landry, and obviously already did with Dugger.

Kind of disagree. Dugger we did.

Williams we paid for a 1st tier player. Hopefully he will be.
Landry is being paid more like a 2.5 tier/3rd tier guy which is okay, and it is a short 2 year contract... technically 3... but really 2.
Dugger is the 2nd tier level contract. And it was a 4 year contract (so really 3) which makes it much much worse).

Typically here is what i mean by tiers of guys.

1st tier - Anyone who is likely to challenge for a pro bowl spot. This includes future HOFers... All pros, on and off pro bowlers... basically anyone who any year can have one of the best years in the NFL at their position. Typically guys in this tier can have issues or defects (age, maybe minor injury concerns, slight inconsistency) but if you are in this tier you are basically in it (unless you can't stay healthy or are constantly in trouble with suspensions looming over you..... even i that case the NFL might make an exception if you are a first tier player).

2nd tier - These are guys who typically don't challenge for pro bowls but are good players. But there is the HOPE they some day might turn into those guys. They are where you get in trouble. Particularly if they have no 'defect'. Guys like these who are young, no injury history and produce a fair amount demand high contracts with longer time periods. They can play well but rarely make the plays to turn games in your favor. These are guys you need to be careful when you sign. If you can't sign them to short term deals best not to sign them at all.. (short term meaning 1-2 year deals... but if a guy like this is young and has no issue that usually isn't possible).

2.5 Tier guys - These guys I am actually okay signing. 1 or 2 year contracts here are possible, which is what you want from these players.... Often coming off an injury... or older players who are trying to prove they still have it for 1 more contract or will rotate more now and their contract reflects that. Maybe they under performed in the previous year and now want to show they can be worth the next big contract. There can be real value here, and if you are wrong it hurts you a lot less.

3rd tier is basically guys you accept 100% won't be probowlers even in their best years.... You and they know they are not cornerstones of your team but a solid building block. These guys you get very good deals from typically. I like these contracts.

This is what i think Landry is... got paid his big contract and didn't live up.. now he is taking a 'discount' to play 2 years here to show he can be worth his final contract. Still 14.5M per year when all is said and done... but that right now puts him 23rd among edge players.. and because he just signed his contract this year... it isn't even as bad as that.

Milton is currently the 2nd highest paid DT in the NFL and signed long term. That is a 1st tier deal. They think he will be a guy who makes pro bowls while here. I hope he is.

Dugger is the issue though... even 1 year later he is the 11th highest paid safety. He was able to command a 4 (3) year contract which means they either need to pay him for 3 or eat a lot of cash after year 2.

I don't like to typically say a tier is the 11th highest paid or 20th highest paid or 8th... it varies by position. And it's relation to other positions. Like Safety and CB.... The first tier of CB's is deeper than Safeties... cause typically if you are a REALLY good DB you play CB. So that first tier is naturally deeper. Same for Guards and Offensive Tackles. QB is kind of its own thing and fluctuates.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Im guessing the trade comes with a new deal so id say no based off the projected salary. 3 years 33 mill was a steal for him though

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

I think he’s be a better fit in Atlanta, Pittsburgh or some place like that. When you’re working on a youth movement and already have Diggs in as the veteran it seems like he’d just be taking a spot

 

[Vindicate]

This my friend is where I would dump Hollins for Jakobi.

Two different receivers, no? That's what would concern me in that trade. I'm losing a type of receiver, particularly an end-zone threat. Then again, we still have at least.

And honestly I keep forgetting about Diggs... Hmmm...

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Meyers has had a single 1K season (just barely). His YPR and YPT are not particularly high and he is not an end zone threat. Meyers is a solid #2 WR on a good team. He got a fairly massive amount of targets last year when he got 1027 yards and his best year ever cause Bowers opened things up for him and they had no one else to really throw to besides these two. I also wonder how many of these yards were made when the game was out of hand. How much does that production mean if you finish 29/32 offenses? How much of that production was not earned against prevent D?

I'm not going to look at the play by play... but here is what i saw on a quick glimpse. Meyers had 3 100 yard games that year... in all 3 they were down 2 scores or more much of the 4th quarter... Not sure if he got many yards late in those games but it isn't a great sign.

I've always said the worst thing you can do is pay full price for 2nd level players. You pay full price or over pay for great players guys who make big impacts. But paying top of the market price for a guy like Tee Higgins for example is always a mistake. There contract never seems to translate to impact on the field.

Better to pay for 2nd tier players with some kind of defect for the discount or okay starters. You will tend to get more value by limiting the amount of contracts you give to 2nd tier players.

Well he had « barely » 1k like you said in only 15 games. That would have amounted to 1163 yards if he played a full season.

McLaurin had 1096 and played the full season.

Edit: 1163 yards would have put Meyers above guys like JSN or Garett Wilson and around top 10 WR in yards. The fact that it’s the first time he is done will cost him some money. But 25M minimum for players like him is the going rate now.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Two different receivers, no? That's what would concern me in that trade. I'm losing a type of receiver, particularly an end-zone threat. Then again, we still have at least.

And honestly I keep forgetting about Diggs... Hmmm...

I like Hollins but his value is a few catches here and there, very good run blocking, and special teams. Hollins is a bigger target but Meyers has 20TDs the last 4 years. Hollins had a career high of 5 last year which is what Meyers has averaged.

Meyers's production as a WR is proven plus he is a very good run blocker.

Throw in Bourne and Hollins. Whatever.

 

[crownontherocks]

 

[TheRainMaker]

Two different receivers, no? That's what would concern me in that trade. I'm losing a type of receiver, particularly an end-zone threat. Then again, we still have at least.

He has 15 total TD's in 7 years he's played. That's a career average is 2.1 TD's per season and has never had more than 5 TD's in a single season. Of those 5 in Buffalo in 2024, 3 of them were in the red zone. He's also had posted zero TD's twice in his career.

I keep hearing this from the media too, but he is far from a red zone threat.

 

[203Pat]

Progress stopper? He’s better than any of our receivers. Legit #2 NFL receiver. I would welcome him back with open arms it’s just they’d probably ask too much for him.

I wouldn’t be mad if we signed him. I just don’t know how many snaps that would take from the young guys but at this point winning should take priority over developing guys.

 

[jlu52]

When the D smacks your thighs enough to make you cry, that's Amari. I thought consensus is that Mr. Cooper is cooked?

 

[jdlboot14]

Ya, I'd trade Hollins & Bourne for Meyers. But it won't happen. He's not going anywhere this year.

However: Diggs, Meyers, Pop & Boutte would make a very good top 4, especially with Williams & Chism coming up behind them.

 

[imahobgoblin]

87 Receptions, 1,027 yards, 4 TDs in 15 games. That is an average of 68 a game, or 1164 yards in a 17 game season.

Out of Diggs, Hollins, Pop, Boutte, Williams, and Chism, who are we giving up?

 

[Kdo5]

87 Receptions, 1,027 yards, 4 TDs in 15 games. That is an average of 68 a game, or 1164 yards in a 17 game season.

Out of Diggs, Hollins, Pop, Boutte, Williams, and Chism, who are we giving up?

I would swap out every single one of those receivers for Meyers though I’d want to keep Williams to see what he can become.

 

[Triumph]

I don’t see a place for him now. Last year yes, this year, no.

Word

Lets see who is available after tomorrow.