The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[Wozzy]

I intentionally stopped posting in this thread for awhile until very recently and it was still going with the same back and forth nonsense and signbabybrady was posting in it near every day even when I wasn't.

You never stopped… quit lying. Worse still is the inane fanboy drooling you engage in while you’re here. Ty Law, Seymour, Wilfork, Harrison, Bruschi… they had nothing to do with success and only looked good because of Tom.

 

[Wozzy]

See you just make up facts to feel better. You really need to validate yourself that you have some majority opinion that you made up. I guarantee you if you did a poll on who was more important between Brady and Belichick, it would overwhelming be Brady leading.

The problem is you find acknowledging that to be the same as saying Belichick did nothing and find it offensive.

The 15 minute standing ovation was the only validation necessary… at “Brady night.”

If the majority felt as you do they would have boo’d Bill. Sucks for you…

 

[signbabybrady]

This thread would have been done months ago if you didn't get worked up at any little bit of criticism of Belichick and felt the need to respond and also keep posting any small little positive piece of media on him to counter everyone else.

You haters keep this thread pinned to the top… stop lying.

Meanwhile if the rest of us accepted that the most successful coach in pro football history simply sucked at his job… this conversation would be over.

What he said.


How dare we Celebrate Bill Belichick on a Patriots message board. Or more to the point how dare we defend him against haters.

 

[signbabybrady]

The 15 minute standing ovation was the only validation necessary… at “Brady night.”

If the majority felt as you do they would have boo’d Bill. Sucks for you…

 

[h0c2000]

Why doesn't Bill have a statue in front of Gillette yet but Brady does? Because Brady was most important in all those 6 Lombardi trophies.

 

[h0c2000]

 

[lancerman]

You never stopped… quit lying. Worse still is the inane fanboy drooling you engage in while you’re here. Ty Law, Seymour, Wilfork, Harrison, Bruschi… they had nothing to do with success and only looked good because of Tom.

Nope sorry Wozzy, facts are facts. From like the middle of June to early August I posted in this thread like 5 days and 2 of them were to defend Bill from stupid **** Kraft said. This thread was going on regardless. You and signbabybrady were always constantly in here.

Also you are making up arguments in your head. Nobody said Law, Seymour, Wilfork, Harrison and Bruschi didn't matter. Literally nobody. That's a nice gif of you dancing though, that skirt fits you well.

 

[lancerman]

The 15 minute standing ovation was the only validation necessary… at “Brady night.”

If the majority felt as you do they would have boo’d Bill. Sucks for you…

It's kind sad that you literally are this desperate to validate yourself that you are clinging onto a guy getting cheers at an event where ****ing Peyton Manning got cheered.

 

[signbabybrady]

I intentionally stopped posting in this thread for awhile until very recently and it was still going with the same back and forth nonsense and signbabybrady was posting in it near every day even when I wasn't.

 

[lancerman]

What he said.


How dare we Celebrate Bill Belichick on a Patriots message board. Or more to the point how dare we defend him against haters.

Nope I legitimately counted and I only posted in this thread handful of time in a month in a half period and most of those few posts were defending Bill from Kraft being a prick and talking about a game where I didn't bring up Bill at all. I think I made one meme in that entire time of a Big Daddy joke that could maybe be construed as negative towards Bill.

You meanwhile have been arguing with people and having the same back and forth the entire time.

This thread wouldn't being going with the infighting it has if you didn't take the bait damn near everytime someone posted.

 

[Triumph]

Doesn't matter how you paint your picture Kraft is the reason why the NE Patriots still exist.

Just filling in some of the colors that you left out.

Kraft did not buy the Pats out of the goodness of his heart. There was always a long-term plan to utilize the land in Foxboro.

Give the proof of Kraft trying to force Bledsoe back in the starting lineup, because my memory serves me as Bledsoe trying to get Kraft involved but he stayed out of it. If you cant provide proof of your claim then its BS.

Yes, New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was initially heartbroken and wanted Drew Bledsoe back as the starting quarterback after he was injured in 2001. This preference directly conflicted with head coach Bill Belichick's decision to stick with the backup, Tom Brady.

Its all right here Google Search if youd like to know the facts. Bledsoe was Krafts guy all along. Beleichick did not want to give Bledsoe that contract and it infuriated Belichick when Bledsoe disappeared in Montana during negotiations. Bledsoe went over Belichicks head and directly to Kraft to get the QB job back.

Also another ludicrous take on Kraft keeping Mayo if he became part of the HOF, again provide the proof as your opinion on the matter has zero value as facts are the only thing that matter.

Look at the timeline of the Mayo hire and Glaser transfer. Directly after HOF voting commenced.

Kraft gave up a first round pick for Belichick, so all of Belichick's success was result of Kraft making it happen

0 Kraft Super Bowls with - Parcells, Carrol and Mayo.
6 Kraft Super Bowls with - Belichick

 

[signbabybrady]

Nope sorry Wozzy, facts are facts. From like the middle of June to early August I posted in this thread like 5 days and 2 of them were to defend Bill from stupid **** Kraft said. This thread was going on regardless. You and signbabybrady were always constantly in here.

I like Bill so I post about him in a thread titled Belichick Mega thread.

Also you are making up arguments in your head. Nobody said Law, Seymour, Wilfork, Harrison and Bruschi didn't matter. Literally nobody. That's a nice gif of you dancing though, that skirt fits you well.

It's implied when the haters dis on Bill and say it was all Brady that they are also dissing on the accomplishments of what everyone else did because if it was all Brady then surely he would have won some other way even if Vince wasn't there or insert whoever.

 

[signbabybrady]

It's kind sad that you literally are this desperate to validate yourself that you are clinging onto a guy getting cheers at an event where ****ing Peyton Manning got cheered.

It's called respect. Manning earned that too.

 

[lancerman]

Nice video

I like Bill so I post about him in a thread titled Belichick Mega thread.

It's implied when the haters dis on Bill and say it was all Brady that they are also dissing on the accomplishments of what everyone else did because if it was all Brady then surely he would have won some other way even if Vince wasn't there or insert whoever.

It's not implied, you assume that because you get hyper sensitive and then it gets dragged out into a big production.

 

[signbabybrady]

This thread wouldn't being going with the infighting it has if you didn't take the bait damn near everytime someone posted.

There should be no need for any infighting. Real Patriots fans should acknowledge both as the undisputed greatest of all time at their positions and not try to pit them in some sort of Brady Vs BB debate it's the worst sports argument of all time.

Both are GOATS and that makes me proud and I will celebrate and defend this until my last breath. Or at least until someone else wins 8 as a player or 9 as a coach.

 

[Triumph]

This is a phenomenally stupid statement. Bob Kraft is the owner. He has been “in charge” since the day he bought the team.

Any power that anyone else had was only because Kraft delegated to them that power. If Belichick was “in charge” of XYZ, it was only because Kraft allowed him to be.

Kraft was in control of Parcells, Carroll and Mayo. He seized control of Parcells draft. He was totally controlling Mayo and Carrol was ayes man beholden to Kraft.

Kraft ceded total control to Belichick after he was correct about Brady. Meaning, trading Bledsoe and allowing Brady to leave. Those were Belichick decisions and to suggest otherwise is ignorance to the facts.

Kraft even said so himself lamenting that he gave BB too much control.

 

[lancerman]

There should be no need for any infighting. Real Patriots fans should acknowledge both as the undisputed greatest of all time at their positions and not try to pit them in some sort of Brady Vs BB debate it's the worst sports argument of all time.

Both are GOATS and that makes me proud and I will celebrate and defend this until my last breath. Or at least until someone else wins 8 as a player or 9 as a coach.

Listen I made my feelings abundantly clear on who was responsible for the dynasty. It was us... the fans

 

[Wozzy]

Nope sorry Wozzy, facts are facts. From like the middle of June to early August I posted in this thread like 5 days and 2 of them were to defend Bill from stupid **** Kraft said. This thread was going on regardless. You and signbabybrady were always constantly in here.

Also you are making up arguments in your head. Nobody said Law, Seymour, Wilfork, Harrison and Bruschi didn't matter. Literally nobody. That's a nice gif of you dancing though, that skirt fits you well.

If you’re here arguing with the mouth breathers that Tom was entirely responsible then yeah… you’re the problem. It’s insulting to all the great players who put on the jersey.

Notice not a single person accused of being “team Bill” or whatever has tried to diminish Brady or anyone else who was responsible. Not once…

All the amazing players who played around Tom deserve better, the coaches deserve better. It’s pathetic… it’s not enough we have fans of other teams trying to knock us down a peg, we have supposed “fans” of this team helping.

 

[Bill Lee]

Cause and effect. Had the owners not given away his Franchise tag leverage he wouldn't have built up mistrust to the point he hired for trust more than experience.

This "GOAT coach hires incompetents because he needs to isolate himself from evil owner" logic is crap.

Why would someone who cares so much about legacy (or at least used to) decide the thing to do is hire incompetents?

Why would someone with such (claimed) stature let himself be ****ed by the ownership?

If the GOAT coach didn't like the way the owners were treating him the fix was easy: leave and go to another team.

Of course then you have to explain why other teams wouldn't give him the kind of power he was getting from the Krafts so your logic fails again.

The thing that fits the pattern the best is he lost his fastball and fell into the honey trap. Delilah cut off Sampson's hair. The one that ****ed him was the Bunny.

 

[lancerman]

If you’re here arguing with the mouth breathers that Tom was entirely responsible then yeah… you’re the problem. It’s insulting to all the great players who put on the jersey.

Notice not a single person accused of being “team Bill” or whatever has tried to diminish Brady or anyone else who was responsible. Not once…

All the amazing players who played around Tom deserve better, the coaches deserve better. It’s pathetic… it’s not enough we have fans of other teams trying to knock us down a peg, we have supposed “fans” of this team helping.

Except for you all the time