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Thinking about the Keion White situation. White has been a decent player, but his story is more about unrealized potential than production. Now he seems like a man without a position in the Vrabel/Williams system.

White is eligible for UFA in 2026. At this point Landry and Chiasson seem entrenched as starters, the team is high on Jones as a rotational guy, the hype surrounding Ponder paints him as a big piece of the future, and Swinton is still here.

I don’t see the value in keeping White on the roster when the tea leaves point to him being a backup in 2025 and playing elsewhere in 2026. Unlike Duggar, he can likely command decent value in a trade.

Why not move him now? He is a good fit for Washington and Minnesota, and they both need interior help.
 
Thinking about the Keion White situation. White has been a decent player, but his story is more about unrealized potential than production. Now he seems like a man without a position in the Vrabel/Williams system.

White is eligible for UFA in 2026. At this point Landry and Chiasson seem entrenched as starters, the team is high on Jones as a rotational guy, the hype surrounding Ponder paints him as a big piece of the future, and Swinton is still here.

I don’t see the value in keeping White on the roster when the tea leaves point to him being a backup in 2025 and playing elsewhere in 2026. Unlike Duggar, he can likely command decent value in a trade.

Why not move him now? He is a good fit for Washington and Minnesota, and they both need interior help.

I don’t agree that White is a back up, like many other units he’s part of their rotation, and will be used as much as Landry and Chaisson are. And Chiasson is on a one year deal, so they shouldn’t be creating holes where they don’t need to create them, they should play out this season and use it to determine who their long term answers are and pay them, and let those who don’t earn it move on.
 
Sure, White could get traded.

All who aren't all potential all pros could be traded, as many folks here would prefer.

We could trade lots of our very valuable assets (starters and veteran backups) such as
White
Jennings
Tavai
Dugger
Strange

Then somehow our team will be better when these players are replaced by marginal rookies who have no trouble making the Practice Squad.
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END OF VENT
 
Chiasson is a backup to Landry at OLB, White is a starter at DE… they don’t even play the same position.
 
I think DL/Edges is the only place in the depth chart where we deep. Maybe not high end great, but all around good

Thus, Id trade White for an OL. Maybe for an elite player, but as long as he is here for long haul

Otherwise, no. We need young players to emerge one way or another
 
Unless it's a great value (which it wouldn't be), there's no reason to do so. Suss out potential with the time you have him. This has been barely any time spent under the new staff, let him grow under it. It he really felt like the previous regime didn't coach him, then Vrabel knows it'll take a second to unlearn bad habits AND learn how to be coached in the NFL.
 
Like Kyle Dugger, White seems to be in no man’s land. He’s too slow at Edge/DE and too small at DT.

I haven’t been a fan of White’s since the day he was drafted who was obviously pissed off the Pats drafted him. Then he openly talked **** about the coaching staff as to why he turned into Houdini throughout the season.

With that said, the Pats aren’t loaded where they can just trade players left and right. Keep him for one more year, then kick him to the curb if he’s still slow dancing with T’s.
 
Even a week ago I would have said hell no.

And I'm pretty much in the same spot but I'd be lying if I said my faith that his potential will finally come around hasn't wavered a little. A little concerning to see him playing in game 3 and to hear Vrabel talk about him still needing to work on some things.

But I still think there's more value in him reaching his potential then anything we'd get in a trade so I'd rather still give him the chance. He still very well could be a double digit sacks guy but if we trade him we don't likely get that in return without a bigger package also included.

It's worth it to stay the course and I think he'll still pay off in a big way.
 
Unless it's a great value (which it wouldn't be), there's no reason to do so. Suss out potential with the time you have him. This has been barely any time spent under the new staff, let him grow under it. It he really felt like the previous regime didn't coach him, then Vrabel knows it'll take a second to unlearn bad habits AND learn how to be coached in the NFL.
I might consider it for a good starting level OL. That says more about my fears on our OL though. And I don't think very many teams are trading OL starters.
 
This has been a very bad team. Literally everyone should be available for the right price. Can White command the same return as Maye or Gonzales ? No. But I’d welcome any and all trades that lead to winning. GM’s phone should have no blocked called.
 
Lazar thinks he’s a backup at this point.

“Although it doesn't appear that his roster spot is in jeopardy, White's exact role is still up in the air. Last week, he was replaced on the top unit by camp standout K'Lavon Chaisson, who, along with vet Harold Landry, didn't dress.”

This is what I’ve been saying since he was drafted. He’s a one rush move player where T’s picked up on it after his first two games of the season. Posters reached badly to defend him, but this was why he disappeared in 2024 after week 2.

“White had a few disruptive plays, but besides bull-rushing tackles, White needs to continue adding tools to his toolbelt to become a more impactful rusher off the edge.

 
There is just something off about White.
Lazar thinks he’s a backup at this point.

“Although it doesn't appear that his roster spot is in jeopardy, White's exact role is still up in the air. Last week, he was replaced on the top unit by camp standout K'Lavon Chaisson, who, along with vet Harold Landry, didn't dress.”

This is what I’ve been saying since he was drafted. He’s a one rush move player where T’s picked up on it after his first two games of the season.

“White had a few disruptive plays, but besides bull-rushing tackles, White needs to continue adding tools to his toolbelt to become a more impactful rusher off the edge.

He's spot on. He's not a DT and he isn't an EDGE/OLB. He doesn't bring pressure consistently and his run D is also erratic.
 
I was stoked for KW this year. I thought Vrabel and company would elevate his game.

I guess he's too much of a tweener.

Apparently he's not developing pass rushing skills. Bull rush is his only game.
 
Anyone else think White situation reminds them of Greg Spires back in the day? Both tweeners where coaches didn’t know what to do with them.

During the Carrol years, I didn’t really care for him. I didn’t see anything in his limited action that warranted he should’ve been on the field more. He had his best year under Bill, but let go after team issues in 2001. Anyone remember what it was?
 
I don't get all the hand-wringing over Keion White... He was better in year two than he was in year 1... don't understand why everyone is all hot under the collar to trade him... maybe someone can explain this to me...

i think he is the prototypical size to play DE 6'5, 285lbs ... Comparatively he's the same size as Willie McGinest & Deatrich Wise... he does carry 20 pounds on Chandler Jones... is bigger than both Rob Ninkovich & John Simon... i dunno, does he need to lose 15 pounds? boost his speed? Can he be better? sure, every player can ... what he does need to do is put it all together this year, build on his successes in his second year...

would I trade him? No. I don't think we can find a replacement who is better than him at this time...

If we do trade him, who is his replacement?
 
This forum loves talking about getting rid of players before they even get a chance to develop.
Think of it this way..

Hes on his 3rd defense in 3 years but he's also played 1350 career snaps, been in 3 training camps, had 100+ practices, and ~40 regular and preseason games combined.

How long does it take for a player who has talent, skill, and solid technique take to develop?
 
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