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How many games will the 2025 Patriots win?

  • 11 or more

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • 8

    Votes: 1 14.3%
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half a win should be banned. HTH do you get half a win?
The half eliminates pushes. If the o/u is 9.5 and you never over you win at 10 and lose at nine. If the o/u is 9 everyone pushes at 9.
 
8 wins. Vegas always 1 step ahead
 
Jets win both against the Pats. No answer to the Justin Fields RPO, the stud Jets OL, and the Will McDonald IV havoc off the edge. So a record of 8-9.
Still trying to figure out if you are a troll or just know nothing about football. Still 50/50 on which.
 
Here's my little exercise I just did.

W Browns
W Raiders unless Tom plays
W NYG
W Falcons
W Panthers
w Steelers, little W, I am not that confident

L Bengals they will want revenge
W Bucs
W Titans no way Vrabel loses this one
W Saints
L Ravens
W/L Dolphins
L/L Bills
W/W Jets.

Jeezus that's 12. I guess I'd better rethink that. I legit think there's 9 to be had, but 12 is ludicrous.
There will always be 4,games that go unexpected. I’m thinking 9 is the floor. 13 the ceiling.
 
There will always be 4,games that go unexpected. I’m thinking 9 is the floor. 13 the ceiling.
13 would be wild for a team that just won 4 games and one of em was handed to us. i’d say floor is like 5 ceiling is 11.
 
Circling back to the schedule, 10 or 11 wins is not that crazy:
w1: Beat Raiders at home
w2: Lose to Mia away
w3: Beat Pitt at home vs Rodgers - key game, crowd will be wild
w4: Beat Panthers at home (3-1 at this point)
w5: Lose to Bills away
w6: Beat Saints away
w7: Beat Tenn away, Vrabel's return but 3rd straight road game - tough one
w8: Beat Browns at home (6-2 at this point)
w9: Lose to Falcons at home, just a hunch
w10: Lose to Bucs away
w11: Beat Jets at home on TNF, 4 days rest
w12: Lose to Cinci away (7-5 at this point)
w13: Beat Giants at home
w14: bye week
w15: Beat Bills at home after bye week - upset pick
w16: Lose to Ravens away
w17: Beat Jets away
w18: Beat Mia at home (11-6)
 
13 would be wild for a team that just won 4 games and one of em was handed to us. i’d say floor is like 5 ceiling is 11.
It's such a different team, and such a different schedule, that comparing to last year doesn't make sense. Unless we just can't get anything right under Vrabal and Josh, and that seems pretty unlikely, 8 wins is the floor, 12-13 is the ceiling.
 
Circling back to the schedule, 10 or 11 wins is not that crazy:
w1: Beat Raiders at home
w2: Lose to Mia away
w3: Beat Pitt at home vs Rodgers - key game, crowd will be wild
w4: Beat Panthers at home (3-1 at this point)
w5: Lose to Bills away
w6: Beat Saints away
w7: Beat Tenn away, Vrabel's return but 3rd straight road game - tough one
w8: Beat Browns at home (6-2 at this point)
w9: Lose to Falcons at home, just a hunch
w10: Lose to Bucs away
w11: Beat Jets at home on TNF, 4 days rest
w12: Lose to Cinci away (7-5 at this point)
w13: Beat Giants at home
w14: bye week
w15: Beat Bills at home after bye week - upset pick
w16: Lose to Ravens away
w17: Beat Jets away
w18: Beat Mia at home (11-6)
This is my thinking except I think we’ll get swept by the Bills. 10-7
 
Not sure if already posted, but media is starting to catch on and it has nothing to do with their first preseason win. In fact, they are now favored in 11 or their 17 games.

Jeremy Fowler on the Pats: "I not only am buying Patriots stock, it would not shock me if they won the AFC East," Fowler said.

Posters don't want to hear this because it puts the pressure on Maye when they want to baby him. Aside from QB, this roster is the best in the division. The only way this team doesn't make the playoffs are injuries or Maye doesn't show up when needed.

 
It's going to take a full season for Maye to figure out Skippy's offense. 8 or 9 wins at the most. Next season is where the leap takes place.
 
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If Maye doesn't develop a more cerebral game.... I think we're gonna be cursing a lot of wins that slipped through our fingers.
Remember, all quarterbacks including the greatest ones took time and experience to develop. Our hope is that, like the great ones, Drake will win as he's learning.
 
I always wait until close to the last minute to do this and still reserve the right to change my mind before the Kickoff in the League opener.

Randomness (bounces, refs, weather, injuries, off field events and distractions) play a big enough role that anywhere from 6--10 wins is measurably probable.

I come down on 8 wins. They double up on last year.
Too many good things coming out of training camp to go with a lower number. Too many new pieces and uncertainties to go higher. Is Drake Maye the guy...really? Can Vrabel turn a dysfunctional locker room around in one season after the "Mayo Error?" Is Stefon Diggs still "Stefon Diggs?" For that matter, is Josh still "Josh?" Is the OL going to get it done into December? Etc., etc. Is the D really that good?

Could this be 2001 all over again (from 5-11 to 11-5 and a Lombardi)? Not unless that 12 foot statue outside Gillette comes to life and takes the field...that was a year and the beginning of a 20 year run that few, if any, NFL teams will ever see again.

So, as a long time fan, I'm going to say "8 W's" a competitive team that is seldom out of a game in Q4 and is making a little trouble for opponents in November and December.

I don't see them in the Playoffs this year. Hope I'm wrong. It's a long season and a lot can happen, but, in general, I'm feeling much better about the future than I have at the beginning of the last few seasons.
 
I always wait until close to the last minute to do this and still reserve the right to change my mind before the Kickoff in the League opener.

Randomness (bounces, refs, weather, injuries, off field events and distractions) play a big enough role that anywhere from 6--10 wins is measurably probable.

I come down on 8 wins. They double up on last year.
Too many good things coming out of training camp to go with a lower number. Too many new pieces and uncertainties to go higher. Is Drake Maye the guy...really? Can Vrabel turn a dysfunctional locker room around in one season after the "Mayo Error?" Is Stefon Diggs still "Stefon Diggs?" For that matter, is Josh still "Josh?" Is the OL going to get it done into December? Etc., etc. Is the D really that good?

Could this be 2001 all over again (from 5-11 to 11-5 and a Lombardi)? Not unless that 12 foot statue outside Gillette comes to life and takes the field...that was a year and the beginning of a 20 year run that few, if any, NFL teams will ever see again.

So, as a long time fan, I'm going to say "8 W's" a competitive team that is seldom out of a game in Q4 and is making a little trouble for opponents in November and December.

I don't see them in the Playoffs this year. Hope I'm wrong. It's a long season and a lot can happen, but, in general, I'm feeling much better about the future than I have at the beginning of the last few seasons.
I predicted 7 wins a month ago... now I'm leaning to 8 as well. Too many question marks right now to go higher.
 
I always wait until close to the last minute to do this and still reserve the right to change my mind before the Kickoff in the League opener.

Randomness (bounces, refs, weather, injuries, off field events and distractions) play a big enough role that anywhere from 6--10 wins is measurably probable.

I come down on 8 wins. They double up on last year.
Too many good things coming out of training camp to go with a lower number. Too many new pieces and uncertainties to go higher. Is Drake Maye the guy...really? Can Vrabel turn a dysfunctional locker room around in one season after the "Mayo Error?" Is Stefon Diggs still "Stefon Diggs?" For that matter, is Josh still "Josh?" Is the OL going to get it done into December? Etc., etc. Is the D really that good?

Could this be 2001 all over again (from 5-11 to 11-5 and a Lombardi)? Not unless that 12 foot statue outside Gillette comes to life and takes the field...that was a year and the beginning of a 20 year run that few, if any, NFL teams will ever see again.

So, as a long time fan, I'm going to say "8 W's" a competitive team that is seldom out of a game in Q4 and is making a little trouble for opponents in November and December.

I don't see them in the Playoffs this year. Hope I'm wrong. It's a long season and a lot can happen, but, in general, I'm feeling much better about the future than I have at the beginning of the last few seasons.
I think 8’s a little low given:
- it’s such a different complement of players and coaches, so referring to last years win total is meaningless
- we have so many weak opponents on this year’s schedule - every bad team basically
- we’re definitely going to put a pro operation out there this year. The talent level is good, very good coaching staff, and I don’t see us beating ourselves much.
So I think 10 wins if we have an average amount of luck.
 
If Maye doesn't develop a more cerebral game.... I think we're gonna be cursing a lot of wins that slipped through our fingers.
Being influenced by Jerod Mayo last season probably didn't help in that regard. 7-10 is my record prediction.
 
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